I hope someone here has some experience with this situation. I have been engaged in releasing resistance and old trauma for a long time and have been terribly stuck. Recently I realised that I dissociate, sometimes completely. I have no actual memories, just information, from my childhood. I also still dissociate now. I have become aware that the part of me that is holding the anger, fear, pain, guilt and all the rest, is not the part that is usually present during therapeutic work and I really want to integrate and heal now. Things like EFT, for example, work on the emotion you are feeling, but if you are dissociated, it doesn't work. Sometimes I will have a big emotional shift as I work through something and five minutes later I am back to the old feeling and thoughts. I couldn't understand this initially, but now I realise that the part that just made the shift, is replaced by the part that hasn't shifted and so the old story almost immediately comes back. Sometimes I also can't remember what has just happened or what I have just shifted.

Do any of you have experience working through this type of dissociated state or helping someone through it? A lot of the time it feels so impossible. I am trying to also hold the feeling of it being impossible to 'fix' or change as I recognise that helplessness from childhood and to not skip over it as I think it is important to heal this too and I am finding that negating feelings doesn't help. I need to feel them. But it is hard not to dissociate from that feeling.

Would love your thoughts.

asked 28 Apr '17, 09:48

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Complex PTSD by Pete Walker. Explains how and why disassociation occurs and how early trauma causes many "software malfunctions" in the brain. Talks extensively of the importance of feeling emotions and distinguishing thinking vs feeling.

(13 May '17, 10:43) Nikulas

And probably a better way to go for now than using a tactic of spiritual bypasaing. Id advise a real human councellor.

(13 May '17, 10:47) Nikulas

Thank you @Nikulas, I am working with a counselor and I have read the Complex PTSD book. Good suggestions!

(15 May '17, 05:45) Antheia

His first book called Tao of Fully Feeling outlines a whole section of how people use spiritual bypassing and can potentially become more traumatized by getting super invovled in spiritual talk. Its a double edged sword but Im only mentioning this to offer an alterantive viewpoint. End of the day you must choose what feels right for you. But I will never advise drugs.

(15 May '17, 07:11) Nikulas

@Antheia- Please see my answer below- the book @Nikulas recommended is a good one. But finding help with a therapist is vital to a cure. This is vital to lasting cure, and reading is a start...but not a cure.

(15 May '17, 15:24) Jaianniah

@Antheia- A P.S. I have worked with others with PTSD, and know that there are no shortcuts- not really. The only way through it is through it. Dedication to your own mental health is important.

(15 May '17, 15:55) Jaianniah

I agree with Jai. No magic pills or silver bullets. No shortcuts with something like PTSD or anything in life. Perhaps a psychadelic can work providing the user genuinely is commited to healing and has a series of non drug related tools and a plan to work from for overcoming their trauma over a few years. This requires discipline and total commitment. A substance cannot substitute that sustainably. In saying that, discipline is a skill and skills before pills.

(16 May '17, 11:01) Nikulas

I want to let you two know that you're coming really close to talking to people with trauma as though they aren't working hard enough at healing. I don't think there's a single person with deep trauma who just sits around and demands that things improve - people with trauma are tortured from the inside out and will do and try ANYTHING to get better. Nobody here is asking for shortcuts and I don't know why you keep acting like they are.

(16 May '17, 15:01) corduroypower

What are you saying? To me I must judge something has triggered you. And no, most people wont try everything to solve an issue because it is hard to try things out properly and hard to commit to seeing a solution out. Id say if YOU really wish to try drugs and wish to advise your good experience with them, then I wont stop you.

(18 May '17, 11:09) Nikulas

Yeah. I strongly disagree with your perspective and Jaiannah's perspective. I don't perceive either of you to have some kind of fresh trauma insight to share. Trauma has been a radically humbling experience for me and I find it astounding when other people don't seem to share that experience. I have never done psychedelics and am not sure it would be right for me, but I feel amazed that someone with any experience of trauma would assume that they know what is best for another in that area.

(18 May '17, 15:08) corduroypower
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I wish I had a great answer for you. A handful of years ago, I went through trauma that caused me to dissociate and be basically unable to feel many of my emotions (that's how I now understand it - I couldn't have seen it that way at the time, I think. At the time I just felt awful almost all of the time.) I am significantly improved now and only get twinges of dissociation when I'm quite stressed. Not to say that I'm always happy, I'm still working on learning to be happy more of the time, but the awful dissociation is mostly in the rear view mirror. I mention that because I guess I want to let you know that I have been where it sounds like you are, and I know that despair, and it IS possible to feel significantly better.

You'd think that I would have a solution for you, right? Or at least be able to look back and pinpoint how and when and why things started shifting for me? And yet as I look back, it was such a gradual process. I was trying so hard and trying so many different things, because my desire to feel better was so fierce. It still isn't totally clear to me how and when things gathered enough momentum to shift.

I can identify an inflection point where I learned to actually sit and experience the felt sensation of my emotions. It was terrifying! At first I thought I was going to DIE. (I did not die. But it was scary. I still find it scary when I do it now and the emotions are very intense.) One of my favorite teachers, Melody Fletcher, talks about something similar here, you may find it useful: http://.**./2014/12/04/if-i-feel-my-negative-emotions-wont-i-just-create-more-of-the-same/

It took me a really long time to feel genuinely better. I don't know why. I have often felt like a spectacularly slow learner during this process. I sometimes think that part of why it took/takes me so long is that I am really willing to put up with feeling bad. If I just walked away from situations as soon as I identified that I didn't like them, I would have had many fewer instances of dissociating in a loud, crowded space, for instance. Instead, it took me years to even identify that that's what was happening, I thought I just got spacey and irritable and unable to feel my body.

And I'm not where I want to be, I am still very much working on the idea that I get to prioritize feeling good. (Sloooooow learner.) But I definitely feel much improved over the days of being unable to know for sure if I existed or whatever!

I wanted to say - I also couldn't get EFT to work when I couldn't really feel my emotions and just felt an overwhelming sense of unreality and dread. But recently, I've been playing with it again, and I think it is working for me now. (I don't do the spoken parts and just tap on the felt sensation of an emotion. It does typically bring the intensity of the feeling down.)

I've had a lot of therapeutic help. My experience has been that for trauma and dissociation, you don't want a person who wants you to talk a lot. You want someone who does some type of body or energy work. I've had good experiences with Feldenkrais (can be very intense if you dissociate though) and the therapeutic modality Somatic Experiencing, as well as Trauma Release (basically you trigger tremors and it sounds pretty loopy but it does make you feel a lot better) Conventional talk therapy was pointless for me because I would just tell stories about my experiences instead of actually processing them in my emotional body, which is what eventually started to help me feel better.

I wish you all the best. May you feel better, soon.


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@corduroypower thank you so much. I have tried so many things. The frustration is that I dissociate during the work I am doing. I feel most emotions, but still really struggling with anger. Thanks again so much!!

(01 May '17, 12:18) Antheia

@antheia - yeah, it is (or was for me) hard to figure out! A lot of teachers, like Abraham-Hicks, basically tell you to just stop focusing on the fact that "you have trauma" or "that you dissociate", because your focus is just recreating it over and over. I am prepared to accept that that's true, but for me, I found that ONLY really fully experiencing those things (instead of pushing them away and trying to be okay when I wasn't) shifted them.

(01 May '17, 14:15) corduroypower

@antheia - re: anger, I too find it hard to really feel my anger. I wonder if it is because anger can feel like life force, especially when you're low. It feels like a trapped animal lashing out and snarling NO MORE. So it can really threaten the numb "I am barely surviving" state of dissociated trauma stuff, then the amygdala gets involved and experiences the threat of anger as an external survival threat? I have very slowly been able to allow bits of irritation, but still struggle. Hard stuff!

(01 May '17, 14:19) corduroypower

@corduroypower, those are interesting thoughts on anger. I have been so able to get in touch with sadness and grief and even resentment, but the anger stays locked up.

(02 May '17, 05:04) Antheia

@corduroypower, I wanted to also say that I LOVE Melody Fletcher, I have worked with her for almost three years now. I am a super slow learner :)

(02 May '17, 05:04) Antheia

@Antheia, let's start a slow-learners club! I wanted to say that my recovery seems to go in waves. I will improve and then seemingly drop back down into a lower state. Sometimes I can see that I'm spiraling through things at higher levels and different aspects, but at other times it feels very "it has always been like this". I work really, really hard at healing my trauma so it can be deeply discouraging when I'm low, but it does seem to improve after a while. It's difficult stuff.

(16 May '17, 15:07) corduroypower

@corduroypower, I love that! A 'slow-learners club'. It does help a lot to know I am not alone in this, so thank you so much for sharing with me.

(18 May '17, 06:26) Antheia

@corduroypower, I would love to chat more. Email me on *.***@.* if you would like to connect.

(02 Jun '17, 07:28) Antheia

@Antheia - I can't see your email address, it's just asterixes!

(22 Jun '17, 14:54) corduroypower

@corduroypower, I'll try again, it is antheia.leonto at gmail dot com.

(23 Jun '17, 04:21) Antheia
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I used dimethyltryptamine (DMT) rather successfully for some latent negativity I wasn't able to reach otherwise. I don't really recommend it- I was feeling experimental at the time, it's illegal in a lot of Western countries (but fine in others), and let's just say the procedure to consume it isn't the most wholesome experience in the world. But after a psychedelic-hangover day I felt relaxed and fresh in places I hadn't for a long time, so it most emphatically does work.

What produces a similar feeling of wellbeing without all the baggage of DMT is a moving meditation called "Kalana Hula" by Serge King (Preview, Buy). According to Huna teaching, dissociation happens through a process of chronic muscle tension, so perhaps the specialized movement in Kalana Hula will stimulate your muscles in a way that lessens the dissociation, so you can follow up with EFT or other energy-based healing techniques.

It also just occurred to me that you are probably a prime candidate for a process called soul retrieval- this is the most heavy-duty healing technique available from a variety of shamanic traditions. The assumption is that a part of your soul- or your body mind, in Huna terminology- decided that it will run away rather than face whatever is happening in your life. Shamans don't normally use this unless it is really really necessary, because it is so radical and involved, but if all else already failed and especially for dissociation, it would appear like just what you need.

You can perform the retrieval yourself, or find a good shaman to do it for you. Here is an example.

If you want to give it a go for yourself, I recommend to start out by learning a bit of shamanic dreaming. This is a simple process where you imagine a place- most commonly called your inner garden- and go back to it again and again. Every time you go there, you make some improvements- pull weeds, plant plants you like, and so on. This is a form of symbol healing that can be rather helpful in itself.

When you feel you are getting the hang of imagining yourself in the same place over and over again, imagine you are holding a thoughtform container that the part of you you are going off to find can travel back in. Then start your search. Look around where you are and where you might need to go, and take whatever comes up in your imagination as your next step of the journey, all the while intending to find that part of you that has gone missing. You may come across traps and demons and difficulty on the way- use ingenuity or confidence to solve them. If a scary monster comes up, just look at him and let him do whatever is going to happen next until he runs out of energy- don't fight him, he can't really hurt you. If there is a river to cross, imagine a bridge- if there is a hole full of dirt, imagine a machine that cleans it up. Imagine anything you like to make whatever situation comes up on your imaginary journey better, and each time your energy will be prepared a little more to come into contact with the lost part of you.

Keep it up, and eventually you will feel you will be coming closer and closer to that part of yourself, and the challenges might ramp up on the way as well. It is critical to keep going, no matter what- there is a reason the dissociation remained as it is, and that is that resolving it can trigger a lot of scary feelings. Being assertive to yourself helps you regain your influence.

Also, remind yourself that you are not going to force your lost self back- it went for a reason, and first and foremost your job is to start listening. So when you come into contact with your lost part, talk to it in a very friendly way, full of understanding and love and affection and forgiveness, and persuade it to come back. If it went because it hurt too much, tell it the hurt is gone now. If it felt there was no room, make room for it, and tell it as much. Talk about fun things in your life your lost part will be able to participate in. Ask it directly what it wants- and do your best to give it that. Eventually, your lost part will come to trust you again and will sit down for a ride in your little thoughtform container. Thank it, and return to your inner garden, and from there, back to everyday consciousness. But still imagine your container. Observe your container, and place it over your naval, and say, three times: I am whole again. I am whole again. I am whole again. It is done. And that's it- rest a bit and do something fun.

I hope this is helpful. For more in-depth information about soul retrievals, Serge King's book "Changing Reality" has a lot of detail. I also really like his book "Huna" for a whole lot more practical techniques that can be used to clear yourself up.

I hope this was helpful! All the best.


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@cmc, thank you so much for the great reply. I have worked with some plant medicines and it is honestly the first time I have actually felt the doors open a crack so that I can get to the stuff hiding inside. I have been drawn to soul retrieval and your suggestions are great, thank you. I think this is a lot deeper than muscle holding, it is parts that 'ran away' and it happened first very, very early in life. It still happens now, but I only recently became aware of it. Thank you!

(02 May '17, 08:47) Antheia

I wouldnt advise drugs to anyone with PTSD.

(13 May '17, 10:48) Nikulas

@Nikulas Why not?

(13 May '17, 12:16) cmc

Its unpredictable and risk of trauma. Plus no guaruntee it does even work. Its lunacy and dangerous psychologically for someone with traumatic injuries. Plus what state so people usually reach for drugs come from? Usually unconscious desperation or peer pressure or recommendation and not with intention to heal. * irreponsible with your spiritual bypassing. Change occurs by simple steps being taken long term repetitively not through "drugs are cool" logic.

(13 May '17, 22:34) Nikulas

Many people with trauma are deeply helped by plant medicine and LSD and MDMA. It's like anything: some people are going to be helped by it, some aren't, don't rush in without getting your energy lined up about it first, choose with care and intention. And for someone with trauma I think it's particularly important to pick a caregiver/trip-sitter with experience. Don't explore drugs if it feels bad to you, but it's helpful to many and people should freely look into it if it calls to them.

(14 May '17, 01:31) corduroypower

@Nikulas Would you be so kind as to go out on a limb with me to see if we can both learn something? I am curious: Are you sure that what you are saying is true, in the sense that it resonates with who you are?

(14 May '17, 03:16) cmc

Yes is resonates with me. Yes I am sure. Yes I agree with what I have written. I do not advise ANY psychadelics for people with PTSD as there is the risk for more psychological harm than good; that does not logically weigh up taking the gamble of consuming an out of control, unpredictable trip in hopes of resolving that issue. People with PTSD, if they toy around with this bullshoot are inviting in a world of trauma, potentially lifelong feae and adrenaline dumping.

(14 May '17, 08:34) Nikulas

If they are on the journey of HEALING then drugs of that calibre should be extinct in terms of treatment. Why are we even discussing this? It is not responsible. So while I harp on all this hating on psychedelics, what DO I advise?: a good councellor. A strong support group. Gentle exercise. A lifestyle change to reregulate the HPA axis. Emotional literacy and permission to feel emotions. Soothing self talk. Repeat over time and avoid heavy self medication.

(14 May '17, 08:38) Nikulas

@Nikulas Would you agree that you are pushing against drugs? How does that agree with being in alignment?

(14 May '17, 17:27) cmc

@Nikulas, I am going to comment because it may help others, not because I think your mind can be changed on this as I think you are totally closed. The truth is that a lot research is currently being done and is showing very clear positive results in treating 'treatment resistant' conditions such as depression and there is a growing body of evidence that plant medicines are working for PTSD treatment. I do not advocate taking it without the correct set and setting and I certainly...

(15 May '17, 05:49) Antheia

would never suggest that someone simply 'takes drugs'. This is not for everyone. For those who are called to work with plants, please do your own research and make your decisions based on the evidence out there and not based on biased opinions. There is a lot of misinformation and hysteria around this subject and there are many people who approach psychedelics in ways that are not helpful, but that should not stop people reading and researching and making up their own minds.

(15 May '17, 05:52) Antheia

There are no papers of studies explaining how psychedelics have helped PTSD. That is erroneous.

(15 May '17, 07:09) Nikulas

@Nikulas, there is quite a bit of info out there. People like Gabor Mate have been working in this field for a while now. One might want to also have a look at maps.org, which has a lot of information, and the work of Prof David Nutt at Imperial College London. As I said, I don't think your mind is open for debate on this, and that is fine, but it is an opinion and is not supported by the current research being done around the world.

(15 May '17, 07:34) Antheia

@Anthaia One of the Huna teachings I enjoy very much is that there is no real difference between relaxing a chronically tense part of your body, and bringing part of your soul home in your imagination. If you relax your body, you will feel also more complete, and if you bring part of your soul home, you will also feel more relaxed.

(15 May '17, 08:26) cmc

@cmc, thank you, that is lovely and definitely worth doing!

(15 May '17, 09:00) Antheia

Feel free to judge me as closed minded on the basis that I have presnted a view that is resistant to your personal held beliefs or that I am refusing to support what youre saying. Ill say it again. I never would advocate or advise anyone with PTSD to use psychadelics and I dont have to explain my answer the way YOU want to hear it. This is a forum of mixed opinions and views. Dont project your values onto anybody else's and insisting I am dogmatic because I didnt support what you wanted to hear

(16 May '17, 11:07) Nikulas

I feel most in alignment when Im speaking my truth and only MY truth and not taking the chocolate cake of the new revamped "drugs is cool" coolaid. Drugs are weakness. If you take one psychadelic your whole life then youre probably using the substance for a very caluclated reason. Research and statistics are, that people that do drugs usually do MANY DRUGS over time...In this regard being ongoing and never isolated drug use, yes, drugs are weakness.

(16 May '17, 11:13) Nikulas

@Nikulas Good for you then. There is really nothing like your own truth, and there is certainly a drug-free experience in store for you if that's what you want.

(16 May '17, 12:00) cmc

@CMC, I really like the Huna idea about chronic tension you've mentioned. The more trauma work I've done, the more I've realized that there is really no difference between "body" and "mind", it's all the same thing.

(16 May '17, 15:10) corduroypower

It has been brought to my attention that there is a study done showing good outcomes from MDMA for those with PTSD in terms of coming to acceptance on their wounds.

I still would not advise any drugs as recovery options though.

(18 May '17, 11:04) Nikulas
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I am pretty sure that you aren't going to heal if you are already dissociated!

Dissociation is a coping method- I know because I have this disorder! While you are dissociated, you are already not coping with your feelings! So, the first step is to try, slowly, with the help of a good counselor and psychiatrist, to begin to try to feel AND stay "present" while feeling.

Using various "drugs" to cope does not work. I have seen the previous posts- how does one altered state help cure another??? Although it might make it easier to "see" what has traumatized you, when the drug is gone, you are back to reality, and the fact is this: that your brain still needs rewiring, at a slow and steady, manageable pace, to see stressful events, take them apart, and begin to process reality, at a comfortable pace. This has taken me years to learn, and I still have my days! (Ask anyone from IQ who has been here as long as Wade and I- LOL! I have posted questions of stress and craziness, and answers, while "normal" which are more rational- this is because I suffer from DID and have suffered horrific trauma, as a child and adult.)

Read about your disorder- there are some good links even at Wikipedia, which is somewhat amazing. I suggest finding a counselor who can help you. Refrain from bouncing around from doctor and counselors; establishing trust with one therapist is important to your success. Get a proper diagnosis (Complex PTSD, for a start). Only then will you get the "rewiring" and help that you obviously need and want.

For a time, I did see a specialist in releasing "body memories". This was helpful to a point- I found myself driving home all shook up, aching all over, and returned home to no support, in crisis, and back to having to dissociate, which was my only coping technique up until then. But moving your body is important- a lot of Complex PTSD sufferers (like me) tend to also suffer from chronic pain, tight muscles or worse, migraines, etc. Moving- gardening, walking, jogging- really does help release tension if you find that movement enjoyable. It will help you bleed off the stress you encounter in daily life, and especially after therapy.

I wish I had seen this question as soon as it was posted. I hope you see my response.

I wish you much luck, and admire your courage in wanting to overcome this dreadful and limiting condition.

There is hope!



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@Jaianniah, thank you so much for your comment. I have read a lot of your posts so I appreciate your input. I have been working with a very good therapist, I didn't stipulate that in the question, but I have worked with various people and many modalities over very many years. I will need to go and have a look at why I get so triggered by comments that intimate that I haven't done this. Interesting. What I will say is this, out of the hundreds of counselors I have worked with, almost none...

(16 May '17, 03:45) Antheia

@Jaianniah... have understood this aspect. I guess if you are very, very lucky you can find the right counselor, that you can afford, and that is within the right geographic area and then you don't have to go through the process of being re-traumatised over and over by counselors that simply don't understand. In the end I have realised that healing is my road to walk and I ask for help where I need it, but it is my journey. What I am doing with this question is part of asking for that help...

(16 May '17, 03:49) Antheia

@Jaianniah... I have also made certain decisions about medicines that I will work with and ones that I won't. Some people take anti-depressants, I am strongly opposed, but I don't judge those who do take them. Many people are still strongly influenced by decades of propaganda, and that is fine, that is their journey. I don't feel I need to justify my decisions, but I do want to say that it is most categorically not a case of "Using various "drugs" to cope". I will leave it at that.

(16 May '17, 04:00) Antheia

Weirdly, I too feel triggered by the assumption that you're not working with a therapist or otherwise "doing it wrong", @antheia. My guess is that this actually underpins quite a lot of my trauma - listening to people or staying in a situation when my instincts are telling me that they're wrong and I should leave. Anyway, can I recommend that you check out the subreddit for CPTSD? I've found a lot of people there who get it in way I have rarely encountered elsewhere!

(16 May '17, 15:05) corduroypower

@Antheia- @corduroypower- Great discussion! I was extremely lucky to have found a free, LCSW who was an expert in PTSD, Satanic Abuse, and inappropriate advances by family members (I cannot believe the IQ censor bleeped out the real word for that!)" I worked with "k" eight years, and she and her agency were very instrumental in helping me feel I was not alone, and that I was not crazy...things I often felt. My family has distanced themselves from me, my ex-husband was suddenly "gone"...

(16 May '17, 17:53) Jaianniah

....and when I left IL, I have not found another "gem" like her..until now. Now I am facing more CPTSD issues (triggers), but being now with @Wade Casaldi- I am in my first relationship of unconditional love; and anger, bottled up by fear of reprisal, has finally begun to come forward. Poor Wade! Luckily, he really goes w/ the flow, and if I shift into dissociated parts, he handles it well. All in all, a real lifetime journey- just today, my new counselor asked me to reveal the worst event...

(16 May '17, 18:01) Jaianniah

...of my life. Hard to say when I have bookends of an F4 tornado destroying my hometown in 1965, and Katrina in 2005- OMG!!! How do I pick? But it was a ritual abuse event which destroyed me, really...I shattered into pieces that I still am gathering back together even today.I would sum it up like this: it really does ebb and flow, and it helps to look at the good pieces of my life. It is truly peeling the onion of your soul, and stress can aggravate it easily. But there is hope....

(16 May '17, 18:09) Jaianniah

.... as I said. Rainbows do come! Keep working at it. Look for me on FB if anyone wishes to PM me. I truly do care about this issue! <3

(16 May '17, 18:11) Jaianniah

@Jaianniah, thank you so much. I appreciate your input because I have seen so many of your posts and seen how you have worked through things. It really does help!!

(18 May '17, 06:29) Antheia

@Antheia- i am glad that I have helped, if only indirectly through my writing here on IQ. Again, I was really, really fortunate that I had "k" and the agency in Illinois, which provided me w/ help for the beginning of my journey. Thank you for your thank you (lol) ! am here if you need me.<3 Jai

(20 May '17, 03:44) Jaianniah
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I would actually highly recommend the Fast Phobia Cure from NLP. I have been using various healing methods for years and I have been trained and certified in NLP, EFT, FEFT, ZPoint, and Hypnosis. The Fast Phobia Cure is used for phobia's and traumas. The whole purpose is to create a a double or even triple dissociation. Before I continue I would definitely recommend seeing a practitioner of NLP, EMDR, or any trauma specialist because doing it on your own can be difficult. However if you are confident in your ability to do it this is how you do the technique.

Imagine that you are sitting in the front row of a movie theater. Imagine that you come outside of your body and sit in the back row while the other you is still in the front row. The you sitting in the back row is keeping their eyes focused on the you in the front row. Then come out of your body again and imagine that you are floating up in the air looking down on the you in the back row. If floating is uncomfortable then imagine that you are high up in a booth made of plexi glass and you are looking down at the you in the back row.

So basically you keep your focus on the you in the back row. Then start playing the movie of the trauma. You keep watching the you in the back row while the movie is playing. Once the movie finishes playing you freeze the final frame of the movie. Now come out of the booth into the you in the back row, then move to the you in the front row and then move into the you at the end of the movie.

Now you are fully associated but you are still frozen in the final frame. Now you are going to rewind the movie while you are fully associated. You will experience the whole situation in reverse. You will even hear all of the sounds be garbled as the movie is rewinding. You want to experience the entire movie in reverse in three seconds or less.

After that you come back to the you in the front row and see if any of the negative feelings are still there. Test and see if the trauma or phobia is still there. If it is then repeat there are any negative feelings remaining then repeat the process and each time you reverse the movie, play faster each time until the feelings are gone.

If you have any questions about this process then don't hesitate to ask.


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