The book 'Ask and It is Given' by Jerry and Esther Hicks gives the following scale of emotions for human beings in descending order of our alignment with our source energy or well being.

  1. Joy/Knowledge/Empowerment/Freedom/Love/Appreciation
  2. Passion
  3. Enthusiasm/Eagerness/Happiness
  4. Positive Expectation/Belief
  5. Optimism
  6. Hopefulness
  7. Contentment
  8. Boredom
  9. Pessimism
  10. Frustration/Irritation/Impatience
  11. Overwhelment
  12. Disappointment
  13. Doubt
  14. Worry
  15. Blame
  16. Discouragement
  17. Anger
  18. Revenge
  19. Hatred/Rage
  20. Jealousy
  21. Insecurity/Guilt/Unworthiness
  22. Fear/Grief/Depression/Despair/Powerlessness

The book says that if something has happened in your experience that makes you feel really terrible to the point that you can hardly breathe, then you are probably on the emotional scale at 'Depression' (Down at 22).

You can then try and focus on other things or take some action from that state of 'Depression' which will then move you up on the emotional scale to let's say 'Revenge'(18) or 'Anger'(17).

However, the book says that from a dominant vibration of 'Depression', you cannot make a big leap and jump to a state of let's say 'Hopefulness' (6) whatever action you take or whatever thoughts you use to feel better without going through some of the other emotions in between. In other words, you can only make a leap to an emotion which is roughly a maximum of 3-4 emotions higher without having to go through the emotions in between but not more than that.

My question is why is a leap from 'Depression' (22) to an emotion which is much higher such as 'Contentment' (7) not possible?

asked 01 Nov '09, 15:05

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@Rani Oberoi: I thought we are all of these things all the time?

(22 Jul '10, 23:55) Back2Basics
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My adivice would be to treat Hicks' teachings with a distance. From where did they get this knowledge from?

Why is the ratio between postitive and nagative emotions 8:14? This would be reliable if it were 11:11, as everything in Universe is in balance.

It also doesn't make sense that if you are Depressed, you will ascend to being Jealous. If you've just lost your sense of life, why would you be Jealous of something after you got little up?

For me this chart doesn't make sense.

REAL principle is that on emotional level (astral level) the opposites attract each other. So it IS possible to attract happiness/joy when you are depressed - as they are opposites - without going through a bunch of other, completely different emotions.

Do not believe in this emotional thing because the more you'll believe it, the more real it will become for you. You wouldn't like this to be real, do you? ;)


answered 01 Nov '09, 19:02

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I agree with you about the chart.Asklepios

(09 Nov '09, 04:26) flowingwater

The reason you would jump from depression to jealousy is because at depression, you are in a state of lack plus apathy. If you remove the apathy you have only the lack and the contrast between your lack and the prosperity of others, which motivates jealousy.

(21 Feb '13, 18:47) flowsurfer

I think the scale operates as a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you're looking for a 3 or 4 step jump up the scale, you'll find it. If you're at 22 and you say, "Well, hatred is 3 steps up. Who do I feel hatred for?" or "What do I feel hatred about?" If you seek a reason to hate, you'll find a reason. In fact, you're manifesting that jump because that's what you're seeking, believing and focusing on. Choose a different step, and the same is true. So why not choose "hopefulness" or "contentment" in the first place and manifest that?

Serious depression is not easy to get out of alone. Everything looks hopeless and bleak, so it's difficult to imagine any kind of step up, and I don't think trading off one negative emotion for another makes sense anyway. A person who is seriously or clinically depressed needs the help of others, because they can't see any positive step to improve their situation. But if you have even the least little bit of desire to rise out of depression, you can choose to manifest any step you want. In fact, I don't see much sense in using the scale as a guide at all. If you feel a negative emotion and want to take a step to get out of it, don't trade it for more negativity, turn it around into its opposite by desiring it, seeking it, believing it, focusing on it, and taking action.

Practically speaking, it's important for a depressed person to start getting proper nutrition, exercising, finding a simple creative activity to do (like painting, drawing, baking).. something productive that is an affirmation that says, "I can do something worthwhile!" Using the imagination is a valuable exercise in climbing out of depression. These practical steps are easier to take with someone's help, so we should try to be helpful when we see someone who is depressed. The social contact is very important, too. Feeling isolated and alone is no good for a depressed person.

Note that all these things are positive steps, not a move up the scale into another negative emotion. When I say the scale doesn't make sense to me, I speak from my own experience. That's just not the way it works for me when I need to get out of some negative state.


answered 02 Nov '09, 06:46

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I like the points you made John. But most depressed people have not stop life they still function going to work, baking, cleaning, helping the children; I guess you are talking about clinically depressed who may have stop functioning for the most part and than maybe baking, painting would help them focus on something else and feel more postive towards themselves and their contributions. The main thing for me was being around someone who was looking at the world through an happier lens and focus that lens upon me with thier love, joy and happiness they sent me. I agree with you on the scale.

(02 Nov '09, 20:40) flowingwater

You are so right to focus on the negative emotions to move up an notch or too doesn't make sense to me when you could focus on contentment an manifest that as an goal of acquirement. Focusing on any other negativity is not moving up at all to me but moving over to another bad feeling. Moving up is going from an a bad feeling to an good feeling if you are only going to another bad feeling than you are not moving up at all no where but over not up. This is just my opinion John. Have an nice day.

(02 Nov '09, 20:47) flowingwater

To John and Unknown: Do you not think that you would want to see somebody angry rather than depressed? When I look at it from that point of view, if you are unable to get a depressed person to feel joyful, would you not coach them into revenge or anger?

(02 Nov '09, 21:32) Pink Diamond

I think coaching a person into a feeling through which they can feel like they have some control over their life is preferable to depression, but I don't think a negative emotion is the way to go.

(03 Nov '09, 08:32) John

No, I don't want to see the person angry or depressed. Unless you are talking about someone who has stop feeling anything and you are trying to just get them to feel something. Try for an postive feeling, build their self esteem up, help them to see the world through your eyes for an while show them love and care of others for them. I don't think it is an good state to try an have an depressed person in an angry state unless you are trying to get them to vent and get all of their furstrations out of them so they can feel relief from that. A postive state is good to try for. Rani Oberoi

(09 Nov '09, 04:24) flowingwater
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I did this once years ago, so yes you can make a huge jump but it is not common. I suppose with with enough times done and faith you could get to the point of changing your self at will like a snap of the fingers. What I did was to get sick of being depressed, in other words fed up angry.

Once I was angry I threw the depression into the ground with a violent throw and it was gone.

I later on found out (years later) Milliripa did the same thing when he was poisoned, he threw it into a door! We have the potential of moving massive amounts of energy easy and fast, it is just that most of the time we never think to do so.

I believe I can do this again some time but it has to again come over me to do so.


answered 02 Nov '09, 10:21

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I still have it, the other day I was depressed and had to go teach karate I said I don't have time for this, I have to teach karate. I threw my arms up and imagined I was a blow torch with a big fire ball coming out of my head and arms burning up the depression as I looked up. In the moment it was gone, I have felt fine ever since. I am not saying my quick methods get rid of the underlying deep stuff locked away it just changes what you are presently feeling.

(13 Nov '09, 20:41) Wade Casaldi

Wow Wade the Human Blow Torch , phew can feel the heat from right over here in Oz , lol But seriously what a fantastic idea Wade another one to add to our I'magic Toolbox , thank Q ;-)

(21 Feb '13, 19:01) Starlight

I have been depressed and I can tell you that is not the way it goes and you can not be confine to only moving up and certain amount of steps that Abraham and the Hicks have lined up it completely did not work that way for me so think for your self and don't follow everything everybody line up for you check things out add to or delete the information that you have recieve.That scale is so way off for me that it is useless.

Now I prayed a lot for God to help me which I said this answer on another question. God did help me I was so depressed with always being without no matter how hard I work. But one day I went to see an lady helping one of my children selling cookies and she bought them and showered joy, happiness, love, friendship, comfort, understanding, and compassion upon me. She and her family made me feel whole again, they made me feel like part of the family even thought they didn't know me, they made me feel loved and appreciated.

I went down there every chance I could and tank upon that love, and happiness and it lifted me up all the way to love and happiness and before I would run out I would go back and tank up some more until I was completly out of that very dark deep hole I call depression permanently and I didn't have to go any more to tank up but I did because I love them so for helping me when I needed it most.

God answered my prayers through those human angels who just simply made me welcome, sent me love, joy,and happiness unconditionally. I guess you could say they sent me their energy and I recieved it and depression was gone.

Now if they would have just said well she is depressed and she will be that way until she change her way of thinking negatively and speaking negativly creating her own negatively reality than they would not have help me. So sometimes you need to reach out an help people lift them up with your kind words, send them and show them some human love, kindness, friendship, some compassion and understanding. If we leave them to their own reality creativity than they may not ever feel joy and happiness again. We have to intervene and send love, joy and happiness their way it is the right thing to do.

Now, in the begining we did not talk about how I was feeling but they sent me love and happiness anyway and we must do this for other people for it helps when we are kind to people and help them and try to bring happiness, love, and joy to them than they can see the world through different lens than what they were looking through. They can see it as an beautiful place to live, create, and enjoy.


answered 02 Nov '09, 11:13

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edited 02 Nov '09, 11:18

Two thoughts:

You don't necessarily have to start the chart at the bottom. Perhaps you aren't as bad as #22, but instead feel overwhelment, and are beginning there and hoping to rise up through the numbers. The bottom is just one, of many possible starting points.

The point on the scale of hatred and revenge may not seem better than depression, but at the point of depression, you are feeling very little and taking very little action. You simply can't, and are feeling empty inside. Even to feel hatred or revenge feelings would still be a step-up I believe, because you would at least be feeling something and perhaps even feel some motivation (although the wrong type!).

The chart makes sense to me, and it's only my opinion, of course, but I have always liked it.


answered 02 Nov '09, 17:39

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Do you mean that a leap from depression to contentment is possible then or not?

(02 Nov '09, 18:43) Pink Diamond

Lee Ann can you not go from depression to contentment is not this possiable? Yes, you do have feelings it is hopelessness. Hatred and revenge to me would be an step down from depression to me who has been depressed. Their is an strong possiability if you are feeling both hatred and revenge that yes you may take an differently wrong action against another. What I am saying is not it possiable to go from depression to contentment LeeAnn?

(02 Nov '09, 20:16) flowingwater

I think it is definitely possible to go from depression to contentment, skipping steps along the way. There is no reason why not! All those steps are simply entry points, at least that is how I see it.

(02 Nov '09, 20:20) LeeAnn 1

Or I should say "can be" entry points.

(02 Nov '09, 20:20) LeeAnn 1

That is just my opionion drawing from my own expierences LeeAnn. Trading one negativity expierence for another is not an good way to go it is not an move up it is an move over. In order to move up you must be trading an negeative expierence for an postive one. Have an nice day LeeAnn.

(02 Nov '09, 20:51) flowingwater

Thank you LeeAnn that was the answer I was looking for. That you are not confined to just making an one or two steps but that you can skip all the negativity and move forward to contentment. That is the goal depressed people should focus on an understand. Some people are so into what someone says that if they read you only can move an few steps than that is all they will try for. Which is putting an limit on you abilities to have contentment. Thanks for answering so quickly.

(02 Nov '09, 20:57) flowingwater

Personally I went from depression to happiness and contentment because God helped me through those people. Who allowed me or shared with me their focus lens they were looking through upon me an I felt the joy and happiness they were feeling and filled my self up with the energy they were feeling. The world doesn't change it is just the way that we look at it the type of lens we are looking through that effects our emotions and our virbrations. People need to help people if they are able to for it makes such an important difference in other people lives when we do. I hope this help someone.

(02 Nov '09, 21:12) flowingwater
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Tho I can see this is an older post having been started 2 months ago, I just wanted to add something that you might find interesting although I do have a tendency to miss the point so this is just from a personal view.

I don’t disagree with anything anyone has written or with the order of numbers, maybe could be a general or usual guide, not sure. It is possible to go from #23 [nope it’s not on there] to #6 and miss out the #s in between and do this is a very short timescale, like 4 weeks. So to answer the question, it could well be possible to leap. Or perhaps it is because that I do not personally identify with some of the #descriptions that it just appears that I leapt as, for example, I’ve never hated anyone or anything in my life, although I have intensely disliked something/someone, so I would not personally identify with that number – and many of the inbetweey numbers on their list. Hope this makes sense:)


answered 06 Jan '10, 10:54

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I agree. You must view the Emotional Scale at a distance. My experience is that subconsciously a depressed person is always looking for "true". That "true" triggers happiness that may come via simple interaction with another person or another's knowledge (reading for instance). What happens is that the action opens a true revelational knowledge that the depressed person is now consciously aware of that speaks directly to him/her. This can create a huge jump in the Emotional Scale and entrance into the Vortex because now there has been a volumous release of deceptive imagery replaced with "true" that swells into subconscious joy.


answered 13 Nov '10, 13:47

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You people speak of moving along the scale slowly, over a matter of days/weeks. That is completely absurd to me. I have moved from #1 to #22 and from #22 to #1 within seconds countless times. All it takes is a very subtle shift in perspective. This is particularly true when that shift involves external events. Even Abraham says we can't help but find ourselves "in the vortex" a few times a day.


answered 21 Feb '13, 19:00

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EFT-Emotional Freedom Technique is very helpful to eliminte negative emotions and traumas that cause us emotional and physical pain. It is a technique that is uses tapping on accupuncture points while feeling a negative emotion or saying phrases that help you tune in to the emotion. It helps with stress, anxiety, depression, fears, phobias, obsessive thoughts, etc... When I use EFT I can jump all over that emotional scale. Before you start, you measure the intensity of the emotion on a scale of 0-10, ten being severe, zero being none. Then after a round of tapping, you measure it again to see if it went down. You want to get it to a 0-2. So if you start out bawling at a 10 and after a round you are down to a 6, then you do it again until you get it down to a 0-2. It could take 1 session or several sessions, but that is a big jump from a 10 to a zero. I don't know how that would look on Abraham's chart, but you would feel much better.


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