I'm new to Christianity. I had a divine experience 2 years ago that made me turn from Buddhism to Christianity, but I still struggle with the identity of Jesus sometimes. I also believe in LOA (for want of a better term than 'believe').
So am I just a confused Christian or can somebody point me in the right direction? I'd really like to resolve LOA with Jesus Christ.
Added later : I want to thank everyone who attempted to answer this. If you read my comment to Angelfire's reply, that's actually what I'm really asking - who is Jesus in the context of LOA? He's supposed to be the Son of God. So, in LOA terms, or in an LOA-based universe, who is he? Thanks - hope it hasn't confused anyone further! :)
Jesus' message was NOT to show US that He was Divine,it IS to show that WE ARE!
answered 30 Mar '11, 11:16
Jesus said many things to support the LOA including, "Ask and you shall be given, seek and you shall find, knock and the door shall be opened to you." "You have seen me do great things, and you will do greater things." "Whatever is true and beautiful, think on these things." "If you have the faith of a mustard seed, you can tell this mountain to move and it will get up and jump into the sea." And to go back even to the very begining, in Genesis chapter 1 In the begining... God said, "Let there be light and there was light..." God spoke and the world was created. Man He created from the earth, but before that He spoke everything into being. Jesus said that we are made joint heirs with Him. I believe that there are many things that we could and should be doing in the name of Jesus that is just plain long forgotten about.
Jesus tells how important our thoughts and words are Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. 21Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire...27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matthew 14:29And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. 30But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. 31And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?
Matthew 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. and Luke 17:6And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.
Matthew 21:22And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
Jesus didn't say the faith should be directed at Him, he just said faith. The faith is in that you can through Jesus who strengthens us. I certainly don't take Jesus out of the picture. When Jesus died on the cross and the veil was torn, we were given evidence of our access to God directly. The leaders of the day were corrupt. Why would anyone think the leaders of our day not corrupt? Look at the hate and devision they teach. That is not of Christ. We have to go to the Bible and the Holy Spirit to teach us who God is and who Jesus is and who we are.
The LOA is always at work attracting to us what is a match to our vibration. The problem I see here is that some people are directing their focus to manifest wealth and riches. This is not what Jesus taught. He taught that when our thinking is right, and in alignment with Christ, God will provide all that we need. He says not to worry about food, shelter and clothing, but to seek first the kingdom Luke 12:31But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you. 32Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
To answer this question, "who is Jesus in the context of LOA? He's supposed to be the Son of God. So, in LOA terms, or in an LOA-based universe, who is he?" 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. A little bit more John 1 King James Version
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
It seems as though rather than getting to the root of a particular belief system, you've become a mere follower. Maybe this will add some insight to your understanding:
I believe that all religions and spiritual beliefs are based on spiritual truth. Remember that religions are normally based on the teachings of very wise individuals, such as Jesus or Moses, but those spiritual teachers didn’t invent the various religions associated with their teachings, in the same way that the Buddha didn’t invent Buddhism, which is a spiritual belief.
These religions and spiritual belief systems were made up by people who didn’t necessarily understand the fundamentals of the teachings mentioned. Truth can still be found in religion and spiritual belief systems, as long as one uses common sense and discernment when identifying those truths.
Obviously, any religion or spiritual belief that pits man against man, thus causing division within humankind is no true indicator of spirituality!
That being said, any religion or spiritual belief that’s serving you in your life somehow and feels good to you, is good. Personally, I take what sounds right and feels good to me from any and all religions and spiritual beliefs. And while I love the teachings of Buddha and Jesus, I’m neither a Christian nor
Now consider this: if you're on a path seeking greater truth or enlightenment, you are, and you believe in Jesus; you'll see Jesus in visions during epiphanies. If you believe in Buddha, you'll see Buddha in visions during epiphanies; and that's the LOA in action.
Jesus, like Buddha, is an extremely wise spiritual teacher and the LOA is one aspect of his teachings...
answered 29 Mar '11, 01:14
Jesus is a person who not only understands the LOA, but was able to apply it every moment of his earthly life.
People of true and genuine faith are not those who "believe" more fervently. They simply "know."
answered 28 Mar '11, 21:10
Maybe this could help you :)
My question to you is: why would you want to associate Jesus with the LOA in the first place, when in fact they are two separate issues, and Jesus is the son of God and was born of the Virgin Mary, and the LOA is a set of Universal Laws and principles that we humans use to manifest our desire?
Now are you asking if it is okay for Christians to use the LOA, and the universal laws and principles to manifest their desire? If so, you would be interested to know that everyone in the universe is using the LOA knowingly, or unknowingly, Christians, and non-Christians alike, especially since our jobs as humans are to create, and manifest what we want on a daily bases, and in fact, we have been using the LOA since we were infants! As you know the child will cry when he is hungry, or wet, to attract his parents attention to get what he wants!
So LOA is not new in essence: but perhaps we were not aware that we have been using it all along in our life! God created this universe and manifested his desire to create man, and woman, and all other living things on earth, and he therefore gave us the ability to create, attract, and to manifest our own personal desire by asking for what we want!
answered 30 Mar '11, 05:25
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the only reason for jesus in the LOA context is to show us the cappabilitys of our own souls and connsioesness, he wanted to show us the MAXIMUM ability leavel that our souls have in the 3rd density of the pysical existance. the question you are asking is better answered by my source TReb Bor yit-NE right here ! if you see it in this way, it is much better. unstead of trying to figure out who Jesus WAS, find out who you ARE!!!!!
love n light,
answered 22 Apr '11, 19:10
TReb Bor yit-NE
the answer to this question for me is clear-religions are based on belief systems, the loa is the most powerful eternal law of the universe and has been in operation since time began.
the loa is independent of religion.
answered 25 Jul '11, 18:04
Ive struggled with this too. The only information about Jesus i have is a group of writings that i havnt any real idea as to the validity of.
But theres something about Jesus that draws me to Him. After 2000 years He still has a pull and an authority over many people.
Ive decided to leave Jesus to be Jesus. He can stand and fall on His own.He doesnt need my understanding or faith to be who He is.
Ive never met Him,ive never met anyone who knew him. I dont know anyone who wrote about Him.Ive never seen any of the original writings.
Im cool not knowing all about Him. Gods cool about me not knowing all about Him.
Whatever He did or didnt do is already done or not done.
Like He said......"it is finished "
Jesus will look after Himself.He will be who He is.He will have done what He has done.
answered 29 Mar '11, 09:19
Jesus was a student of Buddhism. A lot of text was not revealed about this. So don't feel too out of the mix. Christianity became a mix of some of the best teachings combined into one. Jesus used himself to point people in the most positive direction. Go within and meditate on it, you will know that he was teaching these teachings too. Let's just say that he smoothed things over into something that people could understand a little better.
answered 30 Mar '11, 20:40
The Knights Alchemy
Jesus is "THE CHRIST WITHIN" not only within you or within me but within all of humanity no matter their religion. Jesus did not come to earth to teach the law of attraction but even Jesus while here had to, use honey to lure the flies, hence the teachings of what is today called the law of attraction.
answered 29 Jul '11, 15:26
What I cannot understand is why was Jesus's life on earth was only written after 300AD. Who wrote it and why. It appears that there was barbarianism during that time and the only thing to do was to instill fear in the people. People were going around killing randomly and raping young girls, and slavery was rife.
Who were these wise men who made this planet livable. God Bless their Souls
answered 22 Apr '11, 18:31
 Can the so-called ‘Law of Attraction’ discern the identity of the Biblical Jesus??
NO! The dogmas associated with the so-called ‘Law of Attraction’ will NEVER enable the disciples of the New Age Thought Movement to discern the identity of the Biblical Jesus because these New Age beliefs are completely CONTRARY to all sound Biblical doctrine.
The dogmas of the so-called ‘Law of Attraction’ are founded upon the deadly combination of pseudo-scientific jargon and the pantheistic beliefs of Eastern paganism. As a result, this recipe for disaster deceives all New Age disciples to reach the following erroneous conclusions:
Because of these deluded New Age beliefs of divine grandeur, the ABSOLUTE TRUTH of the unique and exclusive DEITY of the Biblical Jesus is forever hidden from the minds and hearts of all New Age disciples. Furthermore, this New Age blindness leads to a plethora of heretical and blasphemous declarations based on willful ignorance. Submitted as evidence are the following declarations which can be observed within this particular forum:
These declarations result from a complete LACK of Biblical knowledge, Biblical wisdom, and Biblical understanding. People who speak in this fashion are simply expressing their ignorant OPINIONS or proudly regurgitating the childish NONSENSE which they have learned from their deluded New Age teachers. Informed BORN-AGAIN BIBLE BELIEVERS refer to these types of declarations as egotistical ‘MUMBO-JUMBO’.
These types of ludicrous declarations only serve to BLASPHEME the identity of the Biblical Jesus, INSULT the doctrinal teachings of the Bible, and MOCK the power of GOD regarding the preservation of His Words on the earth.
 What is the identity of the Biblical Jesus??
Let us now abandon the fairy tale dogmas of the so-called ‘Law of Attraction’ and consult GOD’s Words (as found in the Authorized King James 1611 Bible) for the ABSOLUTE FACTS:
‘When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.’ [Matthew 16:13-17]
‘And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am? And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets. And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.’ [Mark 8:27-29]
‘And it came to pass, as he was alone praying, his disciples were with him: and he asked them, saying, Whom say the people that I am? They answering said, John the Baptist; but some say, Elias; and others say, that one of the old prophets is risen again. He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God.’ [Luke 9:18-20]
‘Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.’ [John 6:67-69]
‘And many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did. So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days. And many more believed because of his own word; And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.’ [John 4:39-42]
‘Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.’ [John 11:25-27]
The Bible is very simple to understand if people would choose to READ, STUDY, and BELIEVE its teachings in their proper historical CONTEXTS instead of fraudulently using the Bible as a tool in a futile attempt to bring ever-elusive ‘credibility’ to their mythological beliefs. From the Biblical verses above, any HONEST observer can plainly see the following:
The Biblical verses above demonstrate that the exclusive and unique DEITY of the Biblical Jesus is confirmed in ALL  GOSPEL ACCOUNTS! The dogmas associated with the so-called ‘Law of Attraction’ are NOT QUALIFIED to enable the disciples of the New Age Thought Movement to discern the ABSOLUTE TRUTH regarding the identity of the Biblical Jesus. The identity of the Biblical Jesus is revealed to mankind by the power of GOD as recorded and confirmed in THE ONLY BOOK which contains the Words of GOD: THE BIBLE!
 Is there a SPIRIT associated with the dogmas of the so-called ‘Law of Attraction’??
YES! Contrary to their bold assertions, New Age disciples CANNOT have a personal relationship with GOD the Father because they do NOT know the identity of the Biblical Jesus. The Bible teaches that a person can know GOD the Father ONLY if they know the identity of the Biblical Jesus [John 8:19; 14:7]. In light of this Biblical fact, GOD declares that all New Age disciples possess THE SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST because they do NOT believe His Words regarding the Biblical Jesus:
‘Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come IN THE FLESH is of God: And every spirit that confesseth NOT that Jesus Christ is come IN THE FLESH is NOT of God: and this is that SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.’ [I John 4:1-3]
‘Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. And we have seen and do testify that THE FATHER sent THE SON to be THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD. Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.’ [I John 4:13-15]
‘And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself EQUAL WITH GOD.’ [John 5:16-18] (Is this clear? JESUS CHRIST = GOD!)
These Biblical verses are written in basic 5th Grade English and clearly state that if anyone believes that Jesus Christ is NOT ‘THE SON OF GOD’ and did NOT come ‘IN THE FLESH’ to be ‘THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD’, then that person does NOT have the Spirit of God in them. If a person does NOT have the Spirit of God in them, then that person does NOT have a PERSONAL relationship with GOD. [Romans 8:9]
Now, when the beliefs of New Age disciples are carefully examined, we plainly observe the following:
Therefore, according to the Scriptures, we may plainly conclude that GOD does NOT dwell in the hearts of New Age disciples and that the SPIRIT associated with the New Age Thought Movement is THE SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST!
 Regarding: ‘So am I just a confused Christian or can somebody point me in the right direction? I'd really like to resolve LOA with Jesus Christ.’
Let it be known that ALL attempts to ‘resolve LOA with Jesus Christ’ will result in total FAILURE! The dogmas of the so-called ‘Law of Attraction’ and the Person of Jesus Christ (GOD in the Flesh) can NEVER be joined together. Jesus Christ (GOD in the Flesh) has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in common with the dogmas of the so-called ‘Law of Attraction’.
BEWARE! There are some Inward Quest members who regularly proclaim to be ‘Christians’, but their words and claims CONTRADICT everything that defines a Biblical Christian. GOD has already confirmed that He will severely JUDGE this type of fraudulent conduct. [Matthew 7:21-23][II Timothy 2:19]
If a person proclaims to be a Biblical Christian, then they must seriously consider the significance of that proclamation:
The Biblical verses listed above clearly demonstrate that, if a person proclaims to be a ‘Christian’ but is not a Biblical Christian, then that person is a FALSE Christian. In other words, Biblical Christianity is the only TRUE Christianity. All other forms of ‘Christianity’ are deceiving LIES!
 In conclusion, what must we remember??
Thanks for reading.
answered 23 Jul '11, 15:00
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