Please see comments on Fairy Princess' answer.
Though I do see once in a while a collective mention about loa, it seems to be mostly about "me me me".
What can I get? What can I attract to me?
If it fell into either category, giving or taking, doesn't it fall in to the Taking category?
Though in order for it to 'work' you must put out positive-ness and giving, some are not doing it for 'the sake of giving' yet for 'the sake of gaining'
If it is a universal law, then it's not a choice. It happens whether we know about it or not, believe it or not. The idea is to understand it and how it works to make it work for you and not against you. Gravity is a law, not a choice. However, understanding it helps us to work with it, or against it in the case of rockets and airplanes, and for safety. If somebody jumps off a building, they will fall unless they have wings of some sort. We cannot change it, but we can learn to work with it. The LOA being a law of nature means that we don't choose, it just is. We can learn about it and make it work for us instead of against us. If we know that negative thought produce negative life experiences and positive thoughts create positive life experiences, shouldn't we choose positive thoughts if we want positive life experiences? If we are bombarded with negativity and get sucked in and feel negative toward life and the world, then that is the life we attract. If we learn that there is a better way and it requires a change in thinking, from negative to positive, then that is a good thing to learn and do. Ultimately if we want to have a positive affect on the world, we have to be in a positive place. You can't spread joy that you don't possess. You can't spread love that isn't in you. So ultimately it is selfish to remain negative and put negative energy out there for the people around you to experience and have to fight it off or get sucked in to the negative thoughts. Becoming a positive person and putting out a positive energy, you are positively influencing the lives of others. That is not selfish, but loving.
Jesus said, "Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you."
There is plenty for everyone and I don't wish anything for myself that I don't also wish for others. Most of us on this site who practice the LOA see it that way. If you read through the threads, it is a common theme to encourage each other to be healthy, happy and fulfilled in every way.
answered 04 Apr '11, 18:31
I have learned so much from all the responses here and I am so happy to see that you are fully accepting the idea that your "self" reference is most likely the place where the cause of your discomfort and the eventual solution exists and that being unable to pinpoint or comprehend the source of this anomaly, so that you can resolve it, is really bugging you.
What you are describing is a familiar frustration that I'm sure most on this site will most likely experience at some point along the way. By that I'm not saying that I have resolved these issues or even understand exactly what you are experiencing. All I know is that what you just described is a very familiar frustration that surfaces again and again in this process of transforming the self where you just feel like somebody is yanking your chain and you just want to throw in the towel and return to being just "normal" like everybody else.
But you can't because you are not normal like everybody else. You chose to wake up (whatever the hell that even means) before everybody else.
I don't know if I fully understand this, but May I share a slightly different perspective here?
We have a spiritual self and a physical self.
At our deepest level I believe that we are working from a perspective of understanding and non-judgment.
It is like our foundation of existence from which our entire personality is built.
At this deeply spiritual level I guess you are already "enlightened"
But to exist within this 3 dimensional reality as a human co-creator we are clothed in layers and layers of energy with greater and greater density and complexity.
By the time we are identifying within the human reference point the complex matrix of energy within which we are intertwined can be compared to being trapped in a spider's web.
Here we are supposed to be free and yet we are trapped within species, gender, race, education, possession etc., etc.
No matter what you do, you cannot change your gender and race (and yet today there are living examples of those that have actually accomplished this very change)
Psychologically there are certain traits that are as much a part of our personality as is a person's gender or race.
They show up in the form of extremely subtle tendencies within your consciousness to react towards situations and events in a certain pre-determined familiar way.
As you begin to reach back towards your source of who you really are, you begin to reach back through the layers of your own makeup.
As you work back through the layers, you see the illusion upon which your personality has been constructed to accept one or the other condition as the necessity for your existence.
At one layer you see that the Law of attraction is the foundation upon which your existence is precariously balanced.
Then you take a step back and you see the Law of attraction (or the mastery of this law) to be as useful as learning how to breathe.
Because the realization is, whether you master it or not, it is a foundation upon which your existence unfolds and by mastering it you are not really going to change much if you are the same person within your consciousness before you started the process.
However, by reaching back to a more and more authentic and simpler stage of your own consciousness you lose interest in the complex layer within which one must exist to participate in the joy of material attraction.
It is important to note that ONE IS NOT BETTER THAN THE OTHER.
You are not somehow at a better stage than someone who has mastered the art of attraction and now enjoying the benefits of their mastery.
What you are describing seems to be the type of frustration that one would experience at this exact stage.
On one hand you can see past the pointlessness of attracting and attracting "stuff", for in your consciousness you can see that it is no different from being addicted and your consciousness is no longer interested in this "addiction".
But on the other hand, look at all the lifestyle benefits that are available if you "settle" for the fringe benefits and ignore the thirst within your consciousness to drop the self-delusion (of satisfaction from material gain) and explore the intoxicating thirst for simplicity.
Unfortunately you have experienced a consciousness that is simpler than the complexity of never ending attraction.
It's the difference between working for a living and taking a vacation. (states of mind)
But just like not being able to walk away from your gender and race, you cannot completely drop the components upon which your personality is built and needs to exist and operate.
You have changed faster than the world is ready for and the reality as it exists now is not set up for non-material existence.
But when we go there, we need you to show us how to transition from a material (distracted) existence to a non-material yet abundant and calm existence , of both state of mind and physical sufficiency.
In your frustration you are actually at the leading edge of change.
How you figure this out is of benefit to all of humanity.
So hang in there, my friend, and work through this for all of us, for in your effort you will push the envelope of understanding for the collective consciousness.
We all need each other to learn from and share our discoveries and frustrations.
I don't know if there are any other like-minded individuals that are sharing these ideas as we are doing here.
Being that this is about "inward Quest" it allows for an extremely wide choice of perspectives to interact, share, and grow with each other’s help.
Every participant's contributions are valuable to all of us and I'm sure I speak for the rest in saying "Michael, please continue to post your wonderful questions and answers, for your experience is our experience, and we are all enriched by the information you share".
No more than gravity is.
answered 04 Apr '11, 17:22
Isn't true then every act is an act of selfishness in some way. That even if it is for the greater good these acts help to sustain all?
So no act is unselfish if you think about it.
I just canceled my account so you can all relax now. This site has served its purpose for me.
Good luck everyone (though I do not believe in luck:))
Just be kind and do not be afraid to express how you feel even if it is not the most popular opinion.
answered 04 Apr '11, 19:11
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