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I came to this site when I was looking out there for answers. The New Age section (far from the eastern philosophy section and even further from philosophy in general where I am usually at) in the local bookstore caught my attention. I picked up an Abraham book and it caught my attention. Hey I feel good, maybe I can get things by feeling good.

Out of nowhere I created a sense of lack when I had been feeling fulfilled for a while. I went off course from my normal teachings and went down the LOA road. Then I found IQ "Spirituality, Mind Control and LOA". That is what the site claims. But it is really about how can I fix me by getting more by feeling good.

I bought into it, kept buying books, heard the stories and soon realized that I was now worse off than I was before hitting the new age section. All these ways to get more by reading more. Michael just feel good and everything will be blissful and work out for you. Then the internal battle began, I like all the people here really I do, but I wanted to grow spiritually not financially. I want more responsibility in learning how I work, not just a quick fix short cut to a higher consciousness. People are being tricked into thinking all you need to do is "Feel Good". It is not that easy. How well do people really know themselves? Because things, cars, jobs and money do not fix ANYTHING PERIOD. I do not care how abundant you THINK this world is but the cold hard facts are that inflation is going up more people (good "feel good" people) are unemployed and there is not enough money being spread around. All of your good intentions will not make the PTB change there greedy ways.

Many have witnessed this struggle of mine and I am finally ready to let go. I figured out what was bothering me (I really knew the whole time) that NOTHING out there will bring me any happiness until I am at peace with myself. And when I am at peace with my self THEN I WILL WANT NOTHING.

If you were at peace, why would you want material things to fill a void? Now listen again. I did not say want material things at all, but things that you desire to make you happy (er).

The real work is discovering yourself not cute catchphrases and quirky lines like limiting beliefs.

Limiting me from what? I'm fine.

Beliefs just create more separateness.

The "New Age" movement, if indeed it can be referred to as a movement, appears to be a desperate effort of people attempting to find the spirituality that is totally lacking in the dominant culture. Dominant here means more than mainstream, for domination is an integral element of the pervasive materialistic and conquest based culture of the West. The power-over dynamic and materialistic nature of Western culture is a product of conquest and subjugation that grew out of European feudalism, patriarchism, theocratic dictatorship and opportunistic desire to wield power over other beings. The entire history of what we are taught is "civilization" is in short a story of conquest, written by the conquerors with their purposes in mind. This element of conquest is the backbone of materialism and the materialistic psychology that enables people to visualize their entire world as objects that can be manipulated for selfish gain, this manipulation includes people. Materialism and the principle of conquest are driving forces in the efforts of groups to control the lives of others. Efforts to legislate morality, attempts to mold society to arbitrary standards developed by religious groups based on belief systems all rely on the conquest principle, the subjugation of others.

Goodbye! I got to get back to work :)

And oh, please if I had any request while I am still alive it is for the love of all that is good...


I will never read them, I will never be back. (so I guess since I won't be back, I'll never know right?) Thats not the point...just let it be.

Please only you will know if anyone in your group here decides to not honor my request to not respond.

Do you think you all can do that? Seriously.

Good luck.

asked 18 Apr '11, 07:10

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I'll vote it down just to make you feel good Dude ;)

(18 Apr '11, 11:23) ursixx

Michael, this is a question and answer forum. If you don't want people to respond, don't post anything

(18 Apr '11, 19:26) Barry Allen ♦♦

you are 100% right, the only way to find your answers is to dig within yourself, good luck and i hope that you are able to find it! love n light, rob

(18 Apr '11, 21:24) TReb Bor yit-NE

Is long gone aka Sam Druker? Im a bit confused.Sam was a smashing bloke,is he now long gone? Sam was so positive,inspiring and funny.I would love it if he came back.I liked him.

(19 Apr '11, 09:37) Monty Riviera
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Beliefs just create more separateness.

Separateness appears to be at the crux of your issue, as far I can see.

And, yes, I absolutely agree with you regarding that sentence.

Beliefs create more separateness because... that's what beliefs were intended to do :)

We already know at the level of our multi-dimensional selves that everything is interconnected. That's not something we have to learn or discover - we already's boring, it's old news, it's just sooooooo sixth density:)

But the illusion of separateness is what this physical reality is all about. It's that separateness that gives us the reason to project ourselves physically here and experience this perspective.

Our inner selves crave experience - we would anytime gladly trade "bad" experiences for no experience at all - and experiencing something really unique like the illusion of separateness is something that we all jumped at.

So I wouldn't be so quick to condemn the illusionary nature of this reality because, at some level, you wanted to be here too :)

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answered 28 May '11, 08:26

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Yes, yes and YES! This is so funny because I was so not proud of this post. I cringed when I saw this revisited. Yet I saw there err in my way a bit ago. I agree Sting-man, I wanted to be here. And yes separateness is THE crux. Thank you...friend.

(28 May '11, 09:01) you

it's just sooooooo sixth density:)

(28 May '11, 09:13) you

One of the most informative posts I have seen about the illusion of separateness.

(31 May '11, 19:16) Vesuvius
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No sorry,this is a question and answer forum.

I didnt set this thing up Simon did. Im assuming Mr Templeton didnt set this forum up to make over dramatic,childish petulant statements.If you did Simon then im very sorry for mis understanding the purpose and format of your web site.

The cold hard facts about the money being not spread out is a little unaccurate.Sure there are poor people on this earth,there are also rich people on this earth. But there are plenty of people in my experience who are becoming richer,happier and more at peace with themselves,God and their environment.

There are many examples of people who have got into a good feeling place and have reaped the benefits.

Whatever the PTB is you seem to have a lot more faith in that than you have in God and His laws. Your question ,or rather statement proves this.

However we dress this up,wheather your an evangelical christian,a so called new ager or any other system it all comes down,in the end to belief and faith.

Old fashioned words i know,but ive even heard the weird and wonderful Esther Hicks say that in the end youve just got to have a little faith and belief,despite contrary physical circumstances.

In her words youve got to change your story.

I hope that you will find peace Long Gone,it seems that youve decided nothing will go right for you until you find this.You may find that this is perfectly true.

As the worlds formost authority on manifesting the Fathers power said.

"according to your faith,so be it unto you"

Enough said.


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answered 18 Apr '11, 08:46

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Dude.Welcome home.

The seventh verse of the Tao Te Ching


Accept and you become whole,
Bend and you straighten,
Empty and you fill,
Decay and you renew,
Want and you acquire,
Fulfill and you become confused.

The sage accepts the world
As the world accepts the Way;
He does not display himself, so is clearly seen,
Does not justify himself, so is recognized,
Does not boast, so is credited,
Does not pride himself, so endures,
Does not contend, so none contend against him.

The ancients said, "Accept and you become whole",
Once whole, the world is as your home.

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answered 18 Apr '11, 10:39

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Now THATS quite uplifting.Theres a lot in that.

(18 Apr '11, 12:54) Monty Riviera

Such a sad and empty commentary! I am totally dismayed by this post, and I wish that it could be removed. But at least we all know that in seeking, we find; in asking, we get answers, and in knocking, the door shall be opened. Don't let Long Gone disturb you too much. I guess we all know that the LOA does work! Let us pray for this person, despite his desires, and hope that s/he finds happiness out there...

All my Blessings and Love, Jai

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answered 18 Apr '11, 17:26

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I think He will Jai.Ive just realised who long gone is!He still has his sense of humour...all is not lost,hes still in the game.

(19 Apr '11, 12:32) Monty Riviera

yes long gone did have a number of aliases

(20 Apr '11, 08:59) ursixx

I guess we all know that the LOA does work!~What does that mean?

(28 May '11, 17:39) you

We attract what we "sow". I cannot remember now what I exactly meant in this context, but I think I meant that "long gone" was, at that time, "unattracted" to us. Jai

(28 May '11, 17:45) Jaianniah
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you are 100% right, the only way to find your answers is to dig within yourself, good luck and i hope that you are able to find it! love n light, rob

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answered 18 Apr '11, 21:21

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TReb Bor yit-NE

There is a saying: It is far more powerful to live your truth, than to preach it!

My best regards to you!

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answered 18 Apr '11, 23:11

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love you.....really I do

(28 May '11, 09:04) you

The feeling is neutral, and the fact is we all need each others’ words of wisdom!

(28 May '11, 19:46) Inactive User ♦♦

micheal you really want to see the truth go in yourself until you go out of yourself in the golden light! if you say i can't do that i don't have the time well find the time! take 1 month off and go in the desert or on the top of mountain where there is no body around and fix a wall for as long as it will take! focus and remove the veils of the mind! then go on until you leave the body!

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answered 27 May '11, 22:45

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I don't know about the "leaving the body" part but I do agree with White tiger here. That's some seriously deep and profound advice.

(30 May '11, 18:35) The Traveller
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