Hi All,

Just came across this website http://www.iafform.com from Noah St. John. He has launched some new afformation audios worth $27 each. Just wanted to know if anyone has tried it and wanted to have your feedback.

Thank you so much :)

asked 24 Apr '11, 05:41

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I haven't tried these afformation audios but I have tried the Afformations product previously. I'm guessing these audios must be recordings of someone reading af-form-ations, rather than af-firm-ations.

Personally, I find the afformations idea to be a variation of Abraham's Wouldn't It Be Nice If? process. I don't wish to imply the author stole the idea from Abraham (or anyone else) but there's ultimately quite a simple, classic principle involved.

As human beings, we tend to be rather question-driven and simply presenting a normal affirmation statement as a question instead means that you have less resistance to accepting the idea at a deeper level within yourself - the author has coined the new word "afformation" for this old approach.

For example, instead of saying to yourself I am wealthy and live an abundant lifestyle many times a day to get yourself to believe it (and thereby manifest it), you can simply rephrase the statement as How am I wealthy and living an abundant lifestyle? The second statement presumes you are already in that state and forces you to answer the question within yourself (perhaps only at an unconscious level) from that point of view.

It's a demonstration of the power of Presupposition - a concept often used in NLP and sometimes sneakily used on Inward Quest when the question-asker wishes to push a particular personal agenda through the use of apparently innocent questions e.g. "What's the best way to destroy the ego?"...which presupposes ego is bad.

The power of using questions for behavior change is a principle that Anthony Robbins has been utilizing for many years in his products.

One could even argue that life is nothing but a series of questions.

As with anything else, whether these Afformations audios are a useful product or not is really dependent on you and where you currently stand vibrationally between what you desire and what you believe you need to do to align with those desires.

I've long since lost count of the vast amount of money I've spent over the years on various products that are intended to be shortcuts to personal change. I've learned something from all of those products, even if what I learned was never to buy anything from that particular individual again :)

But if you feel drawn to it, there might be something within it that might have some (brief, at least) value for you.

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answered 27 Apr '11, 02:42

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Stingray: Thanks for the wonderful insights as always :) Its always a delight to read your views and thoughts on any topic. There is so much to learn from you. I really aspire to reach somewhere close to you in terms of the knowledge, understanding and application of spirituality some day. Thank you :) God Bless!!

(27 Apr '11, 16:36) Sourabh

You're welcome. I'm glad it was of value to you.

(28 Apr '11, 03:33) Stingray

@stingray-thanks, i think i must be guilty of this in my last question

(03 Aug '11, 10:17) blubird two
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@stingray-thanks. I accidently purchased afformations from Noah St John with the expectation that I was purchasing a program with a series of step-by-step actions; and so really did not know how afformations were intended to be used or how to use them. I had come accross affirmations and notions of speaking direct to / programing the subconscious; but was left completely bewildered by the different syntax and languaging. Your comment answers all the questions that I had. Many thanks and much appreciated - Denis

(20 Aug '11, 16:37) denis
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I just read these articles part 1 part 2yesterday by Noah St. John about afformations. It really resonated with me. It tied up some things for me.

I had noticed that whenever anyone asked me a question, I could come up with an answer whether I knew the answer or not. Then I heard about the matrix that connects everything. So putting those things together, I realized that all the answers and ideas are out there, we just have to reach out there and grab it. As above so below, as below so above, as within so without, as without so within. Therefore, we can reach in and grab it also.

In the Bible it says that there is nothing new under the sun. I also believe that we have free will. Since we have free will and there is nothing new under the sun, then there must be parallel realities for the various choices we can make throughout our lives. Like a Choose Your Own Adventure book.

I read The Isaiah Effect by Gregg Braden and learned that the important thing is to feel the feeling as if it were already so.

The Bible says that if you ask, the answer will be given you, if you knock the door will be opened to you and if you seek you shall find. I realized how important it is to be careful what questions we ask, because we might not like the answer. Reading the article by Noah St. John that I posted in the link, helped me to see how to ask a question to get the answers we want.

Starting with the understanding that we are asking a question we then ask the question from the tense of what we want already being true. Understanding that the LOA will send us more of what we focus on. So if our question is about the future, it will always be in the future. Also making the question positive toward what we want and not what we don't want. So we ask questions like, "Why am I so rich?" Our mind goes to work on the question and the answers come as if it were already true. How does our mind know? It accesses the realities where in we had made those choices and are rich. I guess this could be a gateway then to other realities?

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@Fairy Princess- I agree and this Abraham quote confirms it.

Why you want something defines the essence of the what you want, and the universe always delivers to you the vibrational essence of your desire...So when you think about why you want something, you usually soften resistance , but when you think about when or how it will come, or who will help it to come, you often add resistance, especially if you do not already know the answers to those questions.

(29 Aug '12, 11:04) Satori
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