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if god was incarnated who would recognise him? meaning he would come here in human form! according to you how could you tell? how many would judge him? how many would throw rock at him? would people behave differently if they would know that it could happen? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYZKZfdr3ac |
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Well, let's start by looking at the assumptions in your question:
Or, if you really go into it can you see that God, Consciousness or the Divine is One? (I’m using different words so as not to become fixated or obsessed with any particular word). Hence, there's no real separation other than the illusion of separation caused by the artificial concept of linear time. You can recognize God by looking into the Universal mirror of your life and seeing your own reflection. Is the reflection serving you? Is it a Godlike reflection or is it something less than God can be and which God obviously is? If someone sees something and they point it out to you, what is your response? Do you explore and examine what they're pointing out or do you, based on your own convictions, tell them that they're wrong? 2,000 years ago, a man pointed things out and those with their own convictions which, for whatever reasons, didn't agree with what the man was pointing out; so they crucified him. And right there is the answer to how people who have not realized or more accurately, have not yet remembered that God is not only in everything, but also that God is everything. Once everyone remembers that God, Consciousness or the Divine is One; then these questions will not even arise. And everyone will be feeling good and happily laughing and playing around together, just for the fun of it; because they've understood that fun, laughter and lightening up, IS enlightenment 8-) no assumption just woundering what you think about this!as for if he chose to incarnate as men or women irrelevant!and nope i know god that is not relevant either! god can do annything nothing is impossible for him!actually i see god in life and out of life!yes they crucified him from ignorance! be sure that this will not happen again!
(18 May '11, 07:28)
white tiger
Brilliant Eddie :)
(18 May '11, 11:37)
Michaela
Thanks Micheala :)
(20 May '11, 00:36)
Eddie
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What if the drop within the ocean began to believe "I am not the ocean because I am only a drop, and my creator is the Ocean"? As long as the drop believes that it is separate from the ocean, it is free to explore questions such as "What if the Ocean choses to incarnate as a drop like me, would it be recognized and accepted as the ocean?" But the question only makes sense to a drop that believes "I am not the ocean" Once the drop sees its relationship to the Ocean, the Question and the concept are meaningless. But alas, most drops within the ocean have been taught to miss-understand this relationship in such a way that when one points out "Hey don't you know that you are already the ocean?” the drop takes this statement as a blasphemous insult. It assumes that since it is not BEING the ENTIRE Ocean, and not having the power possessed by the Entire Ocean, that it is somehow separate from the ocean and must earn the connection back with the ocean through sacrifice and good behavior. i don't believe i experiance!every one is 1 drop and god is the biggest drop! in that sea of light! you are not all the drop even if you can communicate with them! is your pc all the other pc or 1 pc connected to the other pc through the internet?
(19 May '11, 00:18)
white tiger
Your example of the internet is a good one to use here. When you go to Google and type a search term how does your pc produce so many brilliant possible answers? It is because the search engine uses the knowledge from all the pc's connected together. Where does your consciousness get its brilliant ideas from? It’s from the totality of the experience of our species (since we are human). This is why you say "I got an idea" and not "I formulated an idea". But this is not obvious to the thinking mind. You have to listen without thought to stumble on this realization. Interior silence helps.
(19 May '11, 04:20)
The Traveller
And when you have this idea you say "I am the source of this idea". You have much confidence in the "I am" from whom this idea emerged. But where did the "I am" get this idea from, especially when it is something you have never come across before? So you have to explore how did this "I am" within me come up with this? WHO AM I? Every enlightened master has described enlightenment as the realization where the "I am" and "All that is" is one and the same. The Bible contains a Secret. When Jesus uses the term "I am" he is referring to the “I am” that is within YOU as well.
(19 May '11, 04:47)
The Traveller
If you are an analytical person, you will most likely read the entire Bible with this new suggestion and point out every place where this suggestion does not fit. The analytical mind is very good at that. But if you use your inspirational mind, you will reach beyond the limitations of your "learned" database of knowledge. You can survive a crisis with hope when you tap into the inspirational "I am". Without it the smallest crisis will paralyze you.
(19 May '11, 04:47)
The Traveller
well the traveller your pc is still your pc and not all the other pc and not the internet server even if information is shared! it is the same with all the i am and god ! but you have to remove ignorance and delusion to get there and see for yourself! it is like the one that say i am nothing and the one that say i am everything booth are opposite with some truth but not the absolute truth! but the truth is in the middle! even buddha as realize that! he tried both side and neither one was doing it for him! then he decided to have equal share of both!
(19 May '11, 19:51)
white tiger
the Buddha describes the middle way as a path of moderation between the extremes of sensual indulgence and self-mortification. This, according to him, was the path of wisdom. The middle path does not mean a mid point in a straight line joining two extremes represented by points. The Middle Way is a dynamic teaching as shown by the traditional story that the Buddha realized the meaning of the Middle Way when he sat by a river and heard a lute player in a passing boat and understood that the lute string must be tuned neither too tight nor too loose to produce a harmonious sound.
(19 May '11, 19:55)
white tiger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_way
(19 May '11, 19:55)
white tiger
Avoiding both these extremes, the Tathagata (the Perfect One) has realized the Middle Path; it gives vision, gives knowledge, and leads to calm, to insight, to enlightenment and to Nibbana. And what is that Middle Path realized by the Tathagata...? It is the Noble Eightfold path, and nothing else, namely: right understanding, right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness and right concentration."
(19 May '11, 19:57)
white tiger
and traveller when you use google search in google search engine there is a scroller that verify web page on the net! and that scroller register those web page in the search engine(your metadata needs to be good to be register in the first result)! and that search engine is on a server some where! and yes you are right my example of the internet was a good one!
(19 May '11, 20:36)
white tiger
i am who i am ! they are who they are! and he is who he is! and we can all commmunicate together!
(19 May '11, 20:38)
white tiger
As far as I know the "Middle Path" is a reference to the state of mind of the self that is always in balance, allowing the motion of consciousness to flow inward and outward accepting or rejecting all possibilities and not tenaciously holding on to either extreme of conclusion or certainty. Based on my words and conduct upon this forum, you can see that I cannot make that claim about myself.
(19 May '11, 21:13)
The Traveller
the traveller what if i say that to accept or reject all possibility in balence brings everything to the perfect conclusion that it is that way! and by being that way there is nothing to reject or accept in the things outside of your control! you have to create and work with what is there!
(26 May '11, 02:06)
white tiger
the self is the core of you the only thing stopping you from experiancing it is the veils of the mind!
(26 May '11, 02:08)
white tiger
I completely agree with you on your last two comments.
(27 May '11, 22:26)
The Traveller
the traveler what if i tell you that in your story the drop know that it can become a ocean it self it as the potential to eventually reach that stage. then you see that i do not see it as blasphemous. will you now find this comment blasphemous or the concept meaningless? and by the way this drop is always connected to the source.
(03 Aug '11, 01:33)
white tiger
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God incarnates in every human and all life. The people that know God, know this to be true. The spark of Christ is within us all. Love and Light Well said Brian :)
(18 May '11, 11:37)
Michaela
yes brian we all have a part of the father! but i am talking about the father! god!
(18 May '11, 11:50)
white tiger
lets say that god the father would decide to come incarnate and see what is human life among us!
(18 May '11, 11:55)
white tiger
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When I think of God...I think of the vast unknowing..unlimited, unmeasurable, infinite,no-thing, all-things....then i take that and multiple it by infinity! To me, that is God. Undefinable....in our "human physical time/space reality" ... But, the idea of all of this Unlimited Everything and No-thingness...being able to condense into a single human being seems plausible and ...very impossible at the same time. lol~ duality in all things (and no things) ss you are a being of light in a human body! and god is a being of ligth also and is body is the universe! if he wanted to pick a human body to come make the journey him that know and can act every where all at once! why does it seam so impossible?
(18 May '11, 20:04)
white tiger
I did not say it was impossible....I said..."it seems plausible (possible) and impossible at the same time". The human body is built with certain physical limitations....A strong lighting blast is enough to kill a person. Could it even withstand the energy of The Entire Creator crammed into ....one human body? But if The Creator wanted to...I suppose It could :)
(18 May '11, 23:57)
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When God created man in his own image, and likeness, and breathe his breath of life into man giving man life, he incarnated himself instantly into the flesh of man, to live on earth, and created more of his kind! But because of the sin and corruption in the world by the first man and woman, and Satan, God for the second time incarnated himself into the body, and blood of his only beloved son Jesus Christ to come and live among us in every sense of the word, so that the sins of the world can be forgiven, and pain, and suffering will be no more, when Jesus Christ return for our salvation! So, God is us, we are created in his likeness to live together in this universe to create more God likeness to do his work here on earth for his purpose. It is no mistake, God created his self in us, and he is going through every emotion in our life; he is with us, among us, together as one, make no mistake God is Love, and he is the core essence of our foundation, life and existence! yes vee we are all created in is image we are all is child! but i am talking of the father god! not of us child god!
(05 Jun '11, 07:37)
white tiger
@white tiger:I understand your question perfectly, and I responded based upon the spiritual utterance that I was given!
(09 Jun '11, 04:39)
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