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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JV86gpR-gQ&feature=related

that is the link to the video.

i have found it pretty good on explaining some things.

so i would like your opinion. if you want to share it.

experience and enjoy.

description of the video enlightement, a child will lead them, not being ying or yang being the circle,for the good of the world. experience and enjoy.

awakening

is that straightforward enuff barry?

asked 05 Nov '11, 05:56

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The video reasonated with me quite well for the first ten minutes until the part where it says that it was wrong for one to make use of their will to get the things they wish for in life, because this will only lead to an increase in bad things (an increase in good things for yourself = an increase in bad things to some other because yin and yang must balance, according to the video).

After that, even though I watched it till the end I found it hard to agree with what it was saying and it was basically repeating the same things over and over again. It says that we should not make use of our will to attain our own desires and dreams, but to ascend towards enlightenment and self-detachment, but yet do not tell us how we can do so. If the universe exists to expand and fulfils all of our desires and yin and ying (good and evil) will always exist no matter, then what is the point of us being selfless and seeking enlightment, for it would still be the same.

Lastly, it tells us to "seek the truth", and to "Spread the truth of the times", but certainly I do not agree that there is really any truth to be seeked.

Mainly, it is saying that making use of our free will to attain our own dreams and desires is wrong. But if we do not learn how to do that in the first place, how can we be self-detached from worldly desires? It is probably only when one learns that he can achieve anything in life that he might feel bored of all these and be able to detached from all other kinds of worldly desires..

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answered 06 Nov '11, 10:15

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well kakaboo it explain how to reach enlightement being like a child with pure soul (heart and mind) and ascend to God to reach the absolute truth. has for desire they are hindrance. you will always have desire for this and that. but is it really needed? and the fact that you fulfill desire does it affect someone else? yes their is a balence are you in accord with it? well experience and enjoy.

(06 Nov '11, 23:57) white tiger

Hi white tiger yes I do understand the part about being open minded like a child, but to say that we should not seek any desires at all does not reasonate well with me. The world would cease to exist if there were no desires, for even seeking the truth is a desire is a desire in itself, seeking enlightenment, seeking to be desireless and detached from life.. are still all different desires in their own way.

(07 Nov '11, 02:05) kakaboo

Nicely said kakaboo. In addition: why target teachers and/or systems that help millions to live happier lives? Unless it's part of a fear-mongering, NWO kind of group and then it's perfectly understandable. And that documentary has an air of authority and we all know where that leads... Bottom line = contradictory info from confused, at best, producers.

(07 Nov '11, 06:00) Eddie

Hi Eddie yup I do feel that the video was a bit contradicting after the first 10 minutes.. but I wouldn't deny there are indeed more and more so called "self-help gurus" emerging nowadays.. I think the video might have probably wanted to say that self-help gurus can only help you that much and you are the only one that can help yourself or something along those lines but did not manage to put it well across enough

(07 Nov '11, 09:07) kakaboo

well who can purify your soul (heart and mind)? is it not you? can you have faith and let go and let God take care of it? seek and you shall fine. seeking the truth is not a desire it is a return to your true self. i tell you in the light you are in the absolute truth. all is know at the speed of light about annything. as for enlightement it is knowing the absolute truth seing God. as for desire and none desire it is still in duality. if you meditate to reach dhyana state you will solve all that duality. it is like looking at your right and left hand and knowing that they form a whole.

(08 Nov '11, 01:41) white tiger

do you still need to understand your right and left hand? or can you use them together? well it is the same about duality of annything. in life you have cops and thieves, justice and injustice, love and hate etc. understand it for what it is.Avoiding both these extremes, the Tathagata (the Perfect One) has realized the Middle Path; it gives vision, gives knowledge, and leads to calm, to insight, to enlightenment and to Nibbana. And what is that Middle Path realized by the Tathagata...?

(08 Nov '11, 01:51) white tiger

It is the Noble Eightfold path, and nothing else, namely: right understanding, right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness and right concentration.""'Everything exists': That is one extreme. 'Everything doesn't exist': That is a second extreme. Avoiding these two extremes, the Tathagata teaches the Dhamma via the middle...."

(08 Nov '11, 01:53) white tiger
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Hello White Tiger, i watched the video hoping to discover something new ... it is certainly a beautiful way of explaining awakening however the story is as old as the hills and already well known.

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answered 05 Nov '11, 06:53

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why where you disapointed blubird? me i have found it pretty good that they have understood enlightement. being has a child pure of heart and mind and ascending to God. its allready a good step in the right direction.

(05 Nov '11, 07:08) white tiger

I wached the video and really enjoyed most parts. Thanks White Tiger.

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you are welcome Paulina Giao. experience and enjoy.

(06 Nov '11, 23:58) white tiger
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