I heard someone make connections between certain celebrities who 'idolized' another celebrity and ended up with the same fate. One example was an overweight comedian who died early who's idol was John Candy, or another overweight comedian who died early. So if John Lennon was comparing himself to Jesus, then did he subconciously attract an untimely death by murder?

12/28/11 Thank you for your answers so far. I want to mention here that I love the Beatles and John Lennon. This is not a question of judgement of right or wrong, good or bad.

asked 23 Nov '11, 17:38

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Fairy Princess

closed 30 Dec '11, 12:18

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I think I can set your mind at ease using a syllogism, a form of Logical thinking invented by Socrates.

It goes like this:

A. People who idolize other people will die the same death.

B. John Lennon compared himself to Jesus.

C. Therefore, he should have (will) died of crucifixion.

You see the problem with this??? The initial statement is illogical...John Lennon was murdered, yes; like Jesus was murdered, yes. But I do not think that because John Lennon compared himself to Jesus, he set his own fate. I think it has more to do with the mind of his killer.

What you are saying is that if I idolized my Dad, and I did, then I am going to die at 71 of a massive heart attack....Hmmm. I guess that if this was true, then my Dad, who idolized his own Dad, should have died of lung cancer at age 52 like my Grandfather did...which he did not!

You see? We are connecting coincidences that happen in real life, but actually are just coincidences. Anything else is not logical at all. I do not think Karma has anything to do with it.

Peace and Love, your friend,



answered 23 Nov '11, 17:55

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Excellent answer Jai. Using yourself and your family as examples makes it easier to understand.

(23 Nov '11, 20:33) Paulina 1

Well, they were both murdered. That is in a sense the same death. Jesus was crucified. People aren't crucified in the US very often, so a modern version of murder is what we are dealing with.

(28 Dec '11, 13:52) Fairy Princess

I find John Lennon's message of peace and unity.. oneness to be more relevant than his claim of being more popular than Jesus which was taken out of context, I believe that God has a sense of humor and didn't take it personally. John Lennon, and his music have inspired people to move towards peace and love for decades and will continue to do so for many decades to come. He has inspired me since childhood. May he rest in peace <3


answered 23 Nov '11, 21:04

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Eva goes with the Flow

Great answer, Eva!!!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

(23 Nov '11, 22:48) Jaianniah

I think you hit a very important point... 'God has a sense of humor'. In my reality God doesn't only have a sense of humor, but he loves it. I believe God loves to laugh, loves happiness, and loves when others exhibit the same things he loves. I believe this is the biggest reason we feel an inner joy when laughing with loved ones just for the sake of laughing and enjoying life.

(24 Nov '11, 07:27) Leo

I think that John Lennon probably attracted his own death in the same way that murderers and victims of murderers make a vibrational match ... they attract each other ... his claim to be more popular than Jesus was irrelevant.


answered 23 Nov '11, 18:30

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blubird two

You are right Bluebird, Johns claim to be more popular than Jesus was more media hype than anything else.

(23 Nov '11, 20:35) Paulina 1

Only if in John's mind, he saw himself as a misunderstood person who was going to be slain like a lamb, and kept reinforcing that idea.


answered 23 Nov '11, 18:37

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I believe that everyone not only attracts their own physical death, but also, everyone decides whether or not they actually want to die at the time of their death. At the instant of physical death we become aware of our eternal existence as non-physical beings in non-physical reality.

From that place we decide whether it will serve us to physically die from this life experience or whether there's a reason to stay longer. Then we either: exit the game and move on or we continue our life either on this timeline or a similar parallel reality timeline.

If we create our own reality (we do), then we literally do create all of it, so that means we also choose to create the idea of our death. And remember, dead or not, there's no real death in terms of a final ending. We are all eternal beings and as such, the energy of Jesus, Buddha, John Lennon, you and me etcetera can always be channeled by anyone, now and forever :)


answered 25 Nov '11, 04:22

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well eddie you believe and i have faith because i know. that is the only difference between you and me.


(25 Nov '11, 05:44) white tiger

I really do appreciate the fact that you have faith in whatever you have chosen. And I do understand the meaning of knowing something, believing (in) something and having faith that something is true. However, you seem to refuse to use the words belief and believe, so I often wonder how you can communicate effectively? After all, those are everyday words used by most people that speak English.

(25 Nov '11, 10:55) Eddie

who cares about popularity? jesus did not care about that. maybe john lennon did.2 man each at different level and seing things according to their level.jesus was trying to bring harmony and spirituallity to the world. and john lennon was bringing music of love. jesus was killed by the ignorance of the people. and john lennon was killed by is greatest fan. why do you need to compare that?


answered 24 Nov '11, 18:34

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white tiger

he may have been considered too much of a nuisance,
not unlike jfk, jesus and socrates


answered 26 Nov '11, 04:07

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