If our 'Emotional Guidance System' is there to point out what feels good and what feels bad and by following what feels good, we achieve happiness, then what does a feeling of indifference mean?

Does it mean we should not pursue that thing, as we should equate indifference with what feels bad?

asked 06 Jan '10, 15:39

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You'll have to read this answer first to understand the background to the following.

Indifference means you are vibrationally up to speed with the broader you on that topic.

For example, if you want a new, red car but you don't have it, you will feel a vibrational difference between you and the broader you regarding that car. That vibrational gulf of the two aspects of you is felt as emotion.

As you become more aligned with the broader you, you feel more positive emotion. As you become less aligned, you feel more negative emotion. (To be accurate, there is no negative emotion...just the absence of positive emotion i.e the absence of alignment.)

The strength of the emotion represents the width of the vibrational gulf between you and the broader you.

If there is indifference, this implies no vibrational gulf exists so you have either reached an equilibrium point regarding that topic (i.e. you have the new red car and you are now satisfied within yourself regarding new red cars) or you have no particular desire regarding that topic. i.e. that topic causes no rockets of desire to be launched within you.

So indifference is different to negative emotion...indifference means that topic carries no particular interest for you at this time, while negative emotion means you are still out of alignment with something you want.

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answered 06 Jan '10, 16:26

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As I understand the way Abraham-Hicks teaches it, indifference is not bad; it is neutral. It is the absence of resistance.

Thinking about what we want all the time (dwelling on it) is a form of resistance, because it causes us to become attached to the things that we want. In effect, we are pointed upstream when we dwell on what we want.

But by launching a rocket of desire (by writing the desire down or simply noticing the contrast between what we want and what we have), and then forgetting about it, we let go of the oars, and allow the stream to carry us to the thing we want.

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answered 06 Jan '10, 15:53

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Paying attention to how indifference feels, I have to say that the notion that it is "absence of resistance" is insane. Indifference, in my experience, feels like pure resistance. It is as if there is so much resistance that you cannot move either way.

(29 Oct '13, 14:55) flowsurfer

It always means im a few days ( if that ) from getting a physical manifestation.

Ive proved this in my life over and over again.

I love it when I get to indifference.

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answered 29 Oct '13, 15:11

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@Monty Riviera - "I love it when I get to indifference" - Nicely said and it's a great attitude to hold for getting what you want.

It's interesting to watch on IQ the correlation between those who are Not getting what they want and the Big Deal they then make that they Haven't got it :) ...instead of... making it NO big deal

(07 Nov '13, 02:37) Stingray
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Paradoxically, when you become indifferent you no longer want it. Whatever, it, is.

(07 Nov '13, 03:44) CalonLan
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@CalonLan - You can't unwant something once you've wanted it. The experience of having wanted it changes you forever and it becomes a part of the non-physical You, whether you deny yourself the experience of physically having it or not. Indifference then is the releasing of resistance, not the release of "want".

I find that most people are fairly indifferent to breathing or having their heart carry on pumping...but I have a sneaky feeling that most of them still want it :)

(08 Nov '13, 03:39) Stingray

Your right Stingray, absolutely spot on. The trick for some is making it no big deal I think. The rest of it after that is .....well......automatic.

(08 Nov '13, 14:13) Monty Riviera
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Rani, through personal observation, I have learned that the opposite of "love" is not "hate"- it is "apathy". In other words, when I hate someone or something, I am still engaged with it- I am still thinking about it and am struggling with it. Indifference means that I could care less one way or another- and this, to me, is the true opposite of love.

On the Hicks scale, "indifference" is somewhere in the middle, but I have to tell you, when I am on the receiving end of such "indifference", it sure feels like the opposite of caring love.

I cannot tell you how awful it is to be in the hospital, and to get a nurse who is totally indifferent to my needs and my care. He/She just does not "give a damn.)"(Remember Rhett Butler's parting words to Scarlett? "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn") What Rhett was saying is an example of this. Rhett is saying he is totally indifferent to Scarlett: He just doesn't give a damn anymore!

That, to me, is the TRUE opposite of love, and it really hurts.

If we feel "indifferent" to something, it is a sign that we do not care at all about that person, place, or thing. I would look at this indifference, and discover if it really, truly what you feel. If it is, then you are not engaged in it, and you might want to think about that indifference really hard.

Blessings, Jai

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answered 06 Jan '10, 16:16

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I don't dispute the validity of this viewpoint, or your feelings about it. I would only say that, given the choice, I would prefer that my nurse be competent rather than sympathetic. Sure, it's nice to have a good bedside manner but, if it means getting well, I'll take House over Cutty any day of the week. What you are describing I would call contempt; the feelings of someone who has been working in a job they hate for far too long. And that is definitely a nurse I don't want.

(06 Jan '10, 16:32) Vesuvius

I, too, like a competent nurse- but I dispute that apathy is contempt. Contempt, to me, is just another word for Hate. True indifference is neither love OR hate. When we face such indifference, it can be really mind-blowing. It is like having a car mechanic who just does not care one way or the other about the outcome of his repairs...or having a former spouse just totally become apathetic about everything about you...Jai

(06 Jan '10, 16:55) Jaianniah

We must surely make a difference here between indifference towards a thing like a red car versus towards a human being. When we don't care about having a red car, it's surely not the opposite of love. Concerning humans, it might be true that it's the opposite of love, but it's a difficult and broad subject. Think about relationships etc... Also, we surely can't care about anyone equally on this planet. Basically, we all should have some basic empathy about people we come in contact with. That nurse is at best someone who failed her job, at worst an evil energy vampire. ;-)

(06 Jan '10, 20:20) herzmeister

Indifference towards people, is what Jesus talked about

Matthew 5:22 (Read all of Matthew 5)

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

The phrase "thou fool" would better be understood today as the phrase, "You are good for nothing" or "You are of no value"

The reason for this is indifference towards people, in other words Good For Nothing, I believe it was this book A New Christ by Wallace Wattles and Henry Drummond (page 27 & 28 the real quote) that said the meaning of this as expressed by a conversation overheard of two upper class men talking over coffee about a mining disaster.

Wallace Wattles was siting in a hotel lobby and heard about a terrible coal mining accident that a number of fellows lost their lives in. Two well-to-do men where discussing this matter when he overheard the one say, "Oh well it's only a couple of Huniaks less, A million more are ready to fill their shoes tomorrow; the world hasn't lost anything."

This human life had no meaning to them because they were miners and children of miners. Similar to Scrooge from "A Christmas Carol" when he said about starving dying children, "let them die and decrease the surplus population."

This kind of indifference continues the world suffering.

But now here is another kind of indifference.

Now indifference to situations that happens like if you hit a tree and it means nothing to you, can save you from trauma because it has no meaning it just happened. We become the observer, we step outside of the experience and thus can be enlightened by the experience. This kind of indifference is good it is awakening, when we apply meaning and emotion and feeling in our lives to things we can get tangled up in those things. For example someone calls you a name, if you are indifferent it has no meaning no feelings come out or emotion you do not get hurt in that situation because you are in an observing mode of thought not an experiencing mode of thought.

Now this indifference in manifesting is a key to getting things, because it is really releasing the desire to work out and come back to us as the manifestation, as long as we care and need we are still holding on to the envelope we are mailing to consciousness or God, we must let go to place it in the mail box, (manifestation box experiment) this is the same thing as we place it in the box we need to let it go. Forget about it.

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answered 06 Jan '10, 21:24

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The state of indifference that you're discribing is actually a state when you lose self-importance and self-pity, which is connected with taking responsibility for EVERY circumstance in your life.

Self-pity means that you haven't gained insights from your life experiences and they are 'pulling you down' so to speak. For that reason you may blame your parents, your spouse, your children and so forth. Once you tak eresponsibility for your life, you accumulate enough personal power to transmute your experiences into insights and sooner than later you stop piting yourself for example 'I could'ev awaken earlier' or 'I can do this better' and so forth. In that stage you KNOW!!!!!!!!!! that you are EXACTLY where you need to be and EVERY circumstance in your life led you into this place. From that realisation yu stop judging the past but you thank her for being a teacher and a friend and you can focus on the Now moment.

Self-importance is when you feel any better than anybody else. I write about this in my book extensively which will soon go out, but what it means in short 'Everybodies fine and their is no one to save. Everybody CHOOSES there life to be EXACTLY as they need to be, for the individual to gain necessary experience, and than insights in order to grow. When you're at that point when you say people whatever you DON'T CARE about their reaction to it, because you know that no words can hurt you and that if they don't wanna listen, that's fine, because it's their CHOICE. But you don't feel any better from than because you made tha choice earlier, it's just different.

Loosing self-pity and self-importance is the difference between being an asshole and a warrior. More on the subject later.

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