Once you reach enlightenment through kundalini are you than ascending to become immortal? Do you lose your humanism (shed your human form) and in time become fully spirit with no human traces left? I am still gathering information on this subject what are your thoughts and view points on this?

asked 08 Feb '10, 06:38

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edited 09 Feb '10, 15:39

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The kundalini is the energy that lies dormant at the base of the spine until one begins to awaken and calls it into action, on the path to enlightenment. I believe there are a few fully enlightened beings among us but I think to be fully enlightened on this earthly plane we have to be willing to integrate both human and spiritual aspects of our being - that means sometimes suffering as a human being, because we do choose to become attached to things or people while here and eventually we will lose them or they will pass away because everything on this physical plane is impermanent. Even Jesus as a human had to endure suffering. I don't think the enlightened person passes away or loses their human form until their job here is done.

We are all immortal in spirit whether we become enlightened or not, and we don't need to experience ascension to become immortal.


answered 08 Feb '10, 13:07

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usely in a life time they go up learn the truth and come back down again until they decide to stay up.

(18 Jul '12, 23:41) white tiger

Now whoever knows Immortal Spirit of Light in silence, through reflecting and consent in the truth, let him bring me signs of the Invisible One, and he will become a light in the Spirit of Silence. Whoever knows Son of Man in knowledge and love, let him bring me a sign of Son of Man, that he might depart to the dwelling-places with those in the Eighth.

(31 Jan '13, 23:51) white tiger

I have a superb answer for you, Kathleen: read the spiritual classic ' The Nine Freedoms', by Dr. George King. It undoubtedly will provide you with the most precise as well as fascinating description of the rise of Kundalini available in the world today! The book is available from the Inner Potential centre, London England. Order online--you will be amazed at the contents, Kathleen. Blessings Johnny


answered 08 Feb '10, 16:02

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'The Nine Freedoms' ... the nine vehicules of a complete human :)

(21 Dec '15, 05:07) jaz

Michael Hutchison experienced such an awakening; he describes it in detail here:

An E-Interview with Michael Hutchison


answered 08 Feb '10, 17:04

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Thanks for the link I remember reading this from someone on this site had a link to this as well.

(09 Feb '10, 09:06) flowingwater

If the masters are to be believed, the awakening of Kundalini, if brought up through the Sahasara chakra, brings forth vast psychic powers as well as the traditional enlightenment in which the individual mind is united with the superconsciousness and the world of form (maya) is revealed to be (and experienced as) a dream-like illusion.

There are perils in awakening Kundalini, however. That is, if you don't do it right, as described in Krishna Gopi's book, "Kundalini: The Evolutionary Energy in Man."

From what I have heard, you do not shed the human form...but as I have not experienced it myself, I cannot say :)

Swami Sivananda, a great master, wrote a highly detailed book about it called "Kundalini Yoga."


answered 18 Jul '12, 02:08

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enlightenment is never finished, it is an everwidening spiral of awareness, being and action.

kundalini is not the only energy involved in evolutionary energy work. with progressive spiritual discernment, one can sense other subtle energies at work.

there are 4 types of energies that i am aware of: 1) kundalini symbolized by electricity. 2) life force symbolized by air. 3) soul force symbolized by water. 4) cosmic fire.

the terms are just labels and can be misleading. the symbols are worth looking into because of the texture of the experience they bring about. electricity has polarity. air is for breath. water flows. fire is consuming. their interplay brings about the evolution in awareness, being and action.


answered 28 Jan '13, 09:31

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edited 28 Jan '13, 20:57

love the reference to the 4 types of energies

(28 Jan '13, 10:12) blubird two

The flesh is flesh and the spirit is spirit. This does not change.The kundalini, enlightement,born again of water and spirit,all describe this.What happen is that you know your self in peace with no division in truth(A.K.A the image made in the image of God) and you move out of the flesh(The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.") and go to the kingdom of light("I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.).The pure of heart will see God.

I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.

I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?


"This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away.

The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. During the days when you ate what is dead, you made it come alive. When you are in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one, you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

"Anyone here with two ears had better listen! There is light within a person of light, and it shines on the whole world. If it does not shine, it is dark."

Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, that is a marvel, but if spirit came into being because of the body, that is a marvel of marvels.

Yet I marvel at how this great wealth has come to dwell in this poverty."

Jesus said, "From Adam to John the Baptist, among those born of women, no one is so much greater than John the Baptist that his eyes should not be averted.

But I have said that whoever among you becomes a child will recognize the (Father's) kingdom and will become greater than John."

Jesus said, "Look to the living one as long as you live, otherwise you might die and then try to see the living one, and you will be unable to see."

"For this reason I say, if one is whole, one will be filled with light, but if one is divided, one will be filled with darkness."

You examine the face of heaven and earth, but you have not come to know the one who is in your presence, and you do not know how to examine the present moment."

You don't understand who I am from what I say to you.

The heavens and the earth will roll up in your presence, and whoever is living from the living one will not see death.

Those who have found themselves, of them the world is not worthy


So let there be light,Be the light that you can be,experience and enjoy.


answered 28 Jan '13, 22:06

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white tiger

yes beautiful said, an explication in everyday language would be very useful

(29 Jan '13, 02:13) blubird two

What do you not understand? It is beautifully said.What is there to explain?

(29 Jan '13, 02:36) white tiger

For example A.K.A., akasha or manna from heaven if you prefer, can be written "also known as us", a phrase certainly less poetic but nevertheless understandable by the majority of people, "us" being the collectivity :)

(29 Jan '13, 04:45) blubird two

where did i write those words(akasha or manna)?what passage writen here in this answer do you not understand? as for the manna from God it is the word from God. jesus said:It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.

(29 Jan '13, 15:48) white tiger
(31 Jan '13, 22:48) white tiger
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It does not matter which way you attain enlightenment I done it from meditation music you can reach enlightenment in several ways like religion and yoga,if you are going to do this do what works for you it's your journey it will be tailored for you you don't need to follow anyone like Buddha or any enlightened being like myself there are lots of us out there.When you reach enlightenment you gain all the knowledge of your past lives see the world for the greatness it really is and also see how we are decieved by great leaders in this world.When you reach enlightenment it's not the end but the start to much greater knowledge,it's the knowledge to things you could not believe if I was to tell you it's like being in a secret club.ITS A JOURNEY ONCE IN A THOUSAND LIFETIMES!


answered 19 Dec '15, 18:58

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@Gurutony55 how do you know you reached enlightenment and how was your journey. what have you seen and what did you learn?

(21 Dec '15, 09:37) Manny

You know you have reached enlightenment its when you finally got the last pieces of the puzzle the moment this happens you get unraveling of the mind but maybe more unraveling of your soul it's not answers to all the world but all the knowledge of things you have learnt in previous lives which crates a world of knowledge when this happened to me I could not stop smiling don't want to say to much as don't want to spoil it for someone else only bad point was could not sleep for days it doesn't jus

(21 Dec '15, 10:48) Gurutony55

Part 2. Just stop unraveling I could be told multiple things and play a game of chess at same time in my mind.I only reached enlightenment on 26th November this year still learning new things everyday your higher conciliatory is now like fused to me so don't hear it as telepathy now it is me like a memory of something I did in this life time

(21 Dec '15, 10:56) Gurutony55

If I can help anyone I will don't mind any questions hopefully I will know the answer never read any books done it in 6 months from being enlightened to reaching enlightenment my higher conscious told me everything even what to eat I think I learnt it all in previous lives just had to work seventh stage oneness

(21 Dec '15, 11:02) Gurutony55

Thank you for answering my question. it is funny to see that in this life time only took you a short time to put everything together from previous lives to come to this conciliatory moment but yet many are doing so much and that moment is not near. So it will happen when it is meant to happen whether we actively search or we learn from the school of hard knocks. The creator is amazingly funny

(21 Dec '15, 13:51) Manny
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