A recent answer to one of Jai's questions confused me. She asked if God would ever say 'No' to a manifestation attempt, and much of the popular answers explained that there are no limitations, because you are God. [Example: http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/42852/what-do-you-do-when-your-desires-do-not-manifest/42854 ]

So if this is true, why can't I be an Adonis-esque, rich, immortal, successful superhuman daredevil? [With little to no effort on my behalf]

Not that I am particularly unhappy with my physique or current physical limitations, but I have to work out and exercise to remain athletic. But then compared to the ideas of what free-runners or parkour artists do on a daily basis I think "Why can't I just DO that?"

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you can achive annything that you put your mind at work. but yet there is some universal law to know or to experience to know them. i will give simple example: why can't you fly? because of a law call gravity. yet men fly today because they have learn more they have experience seing a bird fly and it started from there.

(12 Jan '12, 21:58) white tiger

If you're interested in Parkour, watch this video for some good insites into why the most impressive athletes aren't nessisaraly the ones who train the hardest... It aplies to the spiritual journey greatly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRSOe-rDa9Y

(12 Jan '12, 22:37) RFextra

of course RFextra. experience and enjoy you have free will.

(12 Jan '12, 22:49) white tiger

@WT, how very cryptic of you, as always. =P

No, much to my dismay, I cannot fly. I'd love to be able to fly. That is my whole point though.. There is a list of things I'd like to be able to do that is pretty much never ending. I personally cannot do these things, but shouldn't I be able to?

(13 Jan '12, 00:05) Snow

@RFextra: Awesome video. Thanks for sharing. =)

I've actually been training specifically to be able to do stuff like that. I've always been "athletic" as far as a typical American is concerned, but next to people who do stuff like this I was a joke. I've transformed myself as far as where I was to where I am is concerned, but I still have so far to go..

Thanks for showing me that youtuber though, another subscription to follow. [Edit:] Damnit.. There's only one other video. lol. Gunna have to see if they have their own channels. =\

(13 Jan '12, 00:09) Snow

@RFextra: You know, I've been rewatching the two parkour videos on that channel you linked.. Before my interest in free running was simply because I enjoy challenging myself, it'd never occurred to me that people found a spirituality behind it.

My interest has definitely been rekindled.. Thanks again for sharing. Very inspirational.

(13 Jan '12, 00:27) Snow

leo the journey is more important then the target. put your mind at work. and you will experience and enjoy. you might not fly like superman in the world but you can take the plane or drive the plane or do it on the pc. or do it in lucid dreams. you have free will. experience and enjoy.

(13 Jan '12, 00:42) white tiger

Hello Snow only a master can answer this question my friend ... a "being" adonis-esque, rich, immortal, successful superhuman daredevil is no longer a human being ... we can always try to be one :)

(13 Jan '12, 00:51) blubird two

@Snow You're welcome, mhm indeed what Parkour means to you will change all the time but what's most important is that it's fun. A lot of people do forget that, I've practised for 7 years or so now. Danny from the videos is one incredible individual though, I've met him in person on several occasions and the stuff he can get his body to do is nothing short of surreal. There's far too much to say about it in here but I can link you to a lot of good channels if you like because I've pretty much met everyone over my time! xD

(13 Jan '12, 20:13) RFextra

Please do. Anything you feel like sharing would be greatly appreciated.

(13 Jan '12, 20:30) Snow
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A quick pre-answer is to suggest that you look into the idea of probabilities. While infinite possibilities exist, we are limited to experiencing infinite probabilities :)

If someone is already leaning towards the idea of experiencing themselves as a world class athlete and their actions and behavior are not in conflict with their desires, beliefs and expectations, then there's no reason why they won't achieve their desire. After all, we are all already everything, but we must tune-in to any particular reflection in order for it to manifest in physicality and thus, BE realized as our reality.

Conversely, if someone says that they desire to be a top athlete while at the same time their action consists of playing the role of a couch potato who curls up on the sofa every night, whilst watching sports and demolishing a six pack of beer; it's unlikely or improbable that they'll achieve their desire. In fact, at some level they will know this and so they won't really believe in their own desire anyway. At any rate, their actions and behavior are in conflict with their desires, beliefs and expectations, so they won't get what they want.

I'll just add that when considering ideas and concepts such as the LOA and manifesting, it's important to understand that there are several elements to address and it can take time to realize this and to bring all of the elements into balance and harmony or alignment. It's helpful not to get caught up in one area and dismiss the whole concept, just because it may not be working for you at this time. There may be other elements that you haven't quite understood or are not quite ready to allow yourself to remember at this timing.

Do [you] 'masters' of the LOA get everything they [you] desire?

Well, I wouldn’t label myself as a master just yet (even though I know we’re all masters), but to answer your question, yes I’m getting everything I desire and in addition, things I didn’t even know I desired, but am more than happy to receive.

One of the keys to manifesting is to realize that a) you desire something believing that it’ll make you happy and b) you must be happy before your desire manifests, otherwise it cannot manifest.

My preferred method:

My first goal was to bring myself to a state of happiness, which equals feeling good and total well-being. And then, a while ago I refrained from insisting on a time-frame in which my desire must show up. My attitude is now one of believing and expecting that only good will come to me, while relaxing and enjoying my life. I guess I’m allowing Universal synchronicity to unfold in perfect timing...

Caveat: Once any particular desire has manifested in your life, it’s important not to become attached to it. But note that this is not the same as the Buddhist idea of cultivating non-attachment.

Use whatever method and whatever tools work for you...

Be Happy Now and Feel Good Always then Only Good Can Come To You - SURE :)


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A very well written response. Thanks for sharing. =)

(13 Jan '12, 05:44) Snow

Thanks for giving me an opportunity to share. I love writing about these kinds of subjects and the more I write, the more I love it. Without questions I can't answer, so thanks again :)

(14 Jan '12, 07:17) Eddie

That response is amazing to me, because I love hearing answers. ^_^

I'd be constantly spamming this place with questions if I didn't think I'd get in trouble for it. =P

(14 Jan '12, 07:24) Snow
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i did not want to answer this question. because desire or the goal(target) is not what makes you happy. what makes you happy is the journey. think about it everything that you have receive from a desire you have cast away for a new desire. having the desire in you makes you more happy then receiving it in the world. sure we all want both. but sometime the goal you cannot obtain like you want it. but you can still get it in another way. you have free will experience and enjoy.


answered 13 Jan '12, 01:33

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white tiger


I don't know why you didn't want to answer this question, it was a really good answer.

(13 Jan '12, 01:42) Snow

well i did not want to tell this truth about desire because many people do not want to see the truth. and many here are stuck on words and because of this they miss the mark. it has all ready happen with belief. leo did you ever not tell the truth to someone because you know they would not take it?

(13 Jan '12, 19:26) white tiger

Yea, I regularly do that. But there is a difference between someone who is ignoring the truth but not asking for the answer, and someone who simply doesn't know or is seeking an answer.

I don't ask questions here to get a reaction, I ask questions to get answers, to learn. I don't always agree with everything that is said, but I listen, and I learn from it.

I personally share my opinion with anyone who wants to hear it without reservation, because I believe it is up to them to decide what to believe, and because I enjoy sharing with people.

(13 Jan '12, 19:39) Snow

well my friend leo some some time people search for truth but if you tell them the truth they will not accept it. and when you know that you will send them the truth with out them knowing it. how you ask? by giving them the truth that they can accept and leaving the truth that they cannot accept in standby and giving them a hint so they will find it. eventually they will grow and be ready for the truth.

(13 Jan '12, 22:36) white tiger

Yes, but then doesn't that put you in the 'judgement' position that you always discourage so vehemently? Are you not deciding what truths a person is or is not capable of handling for themselves, instead of giving them the information and allowing them to decide on their own whether or not they wish to implement it?

(To be clear, I in no way disagree with what you're saying. I am just confused because it seems like it contradicts your own standpoints. I personally think 99.99% of people are FAR too stupid and willfully ignorant to accept countless topics of truths and reality checks.)

(14 Jan '12, 06:46) Snow

i do not judge leo. i am in truth.Avidyā (Sanskrit; Pāli: avijjā; Tibetan: ma rig pa) is commonly translated as "ignorance" or "delusion". It can be defined as not understanding the full meaning and implication of the four noble truths or as a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of reality. Avidyā is identified as the first link in the twelve links of dependent origination. It is sometimes identified as one of the three poisons. It is represented within the bhavacakra as an old blind man or woman.

(14 Jan '12, 09:33) white tiger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avidy%C4%81_(Buddhism) i did not said that they are stupid you said it.Based on this misapprehension of the status of persons and things, we are drawn into afflictive desire and hatred [i.e. attachment and aversion]... Not knowing the real nature of phenomena, we are driven to generate desire for what we like and hatred for what we do not like and for what blocks our desires. These three—ignorance, desire, and hatred—are called the three poisons; they pervert our mental outlook.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_poisons_(Buddhism)

(14 Jan '12, 09:42) white tiger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0RzhVJSxE here also you will see the difference.

(14 Jan '12, 09:48) white tiger
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