Of course this question stems from concepts like Jai's question here.

To me it would seem that the belief that another's disbelief will inhibit one's abilities is the only reason that they do, but that's probably getting into a loop of metaphysical philosophy that would likely end in paradox or irrelevance.

But anyway, questions about faith healing and questions like Jai's are often explained as disbelief being a cause of failure, often the only one. So does this imply an equal or greater amount of disbelief is being applied? Or perhaps disbelief is easier to generate than belief [at least with how our psyches have been conditioned]? Or that a small amount of disbelief is enough to interfere with a great amount of belief?

[The above are just the questions that enter my mind when I contemplate this. Answers don't necessarily have to be related, or even acknowledge them at all.]

asked 27 Feb '12, 10:28

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Well I think one of the most poweful ways of viewing beliefs is; there isn't really any disbelief... only belief in something else.

So the question: which is more powerful out of the two, is meaningless in that respect. It would just be a showdown of different but equivilent beliefs, and the only way to decide which of the two is more powerful is to work out how aligined it is with your true-self.


answered 27 Feb '12, 13:03

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You took the words out of my mouth (or should I say keyboard:)). What we call disbelief, is simply believing in something that is not representative of who we really are.

(27 Feb '12, 14:26) Benjamin

rfextra, benjamin, ignorance at certain levels of consciousness are trumpted by thoughts of greater awareness. and there is always karma. which side of the struggle has control or must it be so until balance is restored

(27 Feb '12, 20:56) fred

Disbelief & Belief is the same thing.

My answer to this question illustrates the point better. http://www.inwardquest.com/questions/8502/trust-or-not-to-trust-that-is-the-question

So it really comes down to how much time someone invests in continuously focusing on the thing that they either "believe" or "disbelieve", both being the same thing.


answered 27 Feb '12, 14:31

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True a disbelief is still a belief. Or a form of a belief... :)

(17 Dec '12, 00:47) Kanda

The simple answer is that disbeliefs are beliefs. However if we take a deeper look at this as to where do beliefs come from we start seeing something very interesting! In the book "The Avatar Path The Way We Came." by Harry Palmer, Harry talks about beliefs. Example you are on the plane and the engine is on fire. Your thought jumps to... "We're all going to die! The plane is going to crash! There is no hope!" Wrong! Those are all projected reactionary beliefs and have nothing to do with what is going on right now! In true objectiveness, you are on a plane and the engine is on fire. All of those negative beliefs could have just as easily been... "We have good pilots. They train for this type of stuff. Everything will be all right. The situation is in control."

Thankfully because those are reacting beliefs and not primary beliefs they will not have much effect either way. The other belief is primary beliefs. These are deep rooted beliefs of that is how things are, "These are just the facts, I can't do anything about them, that is how I am!" That is a belief that we accepted as fact maybe many years ago and repeated it to make sure we were correct and of course we were correct because of the held belief that we are.

In the first situation that I posted about the airplane and belief reactions, we could say the one that believes we are going to die, disbelieves that he is going to live. The one that believes we are going to live disbelieves he is going to die.

The mind tries to make sense of things so it will make up excuses for things that don't make sense so that to the mind "There is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why this thing is." This reasonable explanation becomes a new belief about something or the self completely created by the mind trying to understand and make sense out of something that it does not have all the information to make sense out of.

One way of creating a new belief is through expectation, again the mind is working to explain something it does not know, so it creates these fantasies of what is to come. This can be excitement, fear, anticipation, dread, all of these create experiences matching the belief created.

Another way of creating belief is reactionary, this happened because of beliefs. Again the mind trying to make sense out of why something happened creates a new belief or disbelief as the case may be about something or the self. I must not be good enough, I am unattractive, I am stupid, I can't follow directions, I always get lost, I always get sick, I have bad luck, Muphry's law, Why me? etc...

The third way, and most potent way, is through deliberate choice, this way is choosing for your self what you want to believe, it is not an evolving belief that comes from something else but a deliberate choice of what you want to believe. If others can so can I, I believe in my self, I am smart, I am more than capable, I'll handle this, I know I can achieve, I am the best.

Now we can say disbelief is the opposite of belief so in that anything we do not believe is disbelief and that means more so actually what we choose to disbelieve when we experience or are told of something that runs counter to our current beliefs. It must be remembered if it runs counter to our current beliefs that it is a counter belief and so what we believe is disbelieved by another!

If we say anything that is not yet known is disbelieved until known, that would be a belief and thus as a belief would be true to some and untrue to others. The fact is that whether we believe something or disbelieve it, we must first know it, then choose or even not choose, whether to believe, disbelieve, or just experience in the objective as it is.

To sum this up I could liken it to algebra. If I believe A then I disbelieve B If I believe B then I disbelieve A but if I choose not to, then I experience the possibility of A or B in a nonjudgmental way.

It is our judgement of a thing that creates our belief or disbelief. If we do not judge it we create no belief or disbelief about it.

A belief is only as powerful as, your belief in the power of (faith), that that belief has over you.


answered 27 Feb '12, 15:40

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edited 27 Feb '12, 16:53

belief can sometime lead to faith. but often people confuse belief and faith to be the same thing. belief is from the mind and sometime it is in truth some other time it is not. faith is from the heart and in truth. balence the mind in the heart in harmony. experience and enjoy.


answered 27 Feb '12, 19:19

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