I’ve noticed this behavior in many people, both in my physical reality and in forums such as IQ:

Some people believe that they’ve discovered certain truths about life (or they believe there’s only one truth), while at the same time they observe or realize that many others in their world, apparently, have not seen those truths.

And based upon their estimation that those others, somehow, need their help in order to see truth(s) and the action that they feel they must take in order to make others see; then they may be setting themselves up for disappointment and the pain which follows that.

On the other hand, once a person realizes that each person is an eternal master creator, who, at some level of their being, already knows and understands any and every truth...

Then they understand that while from a self-limited physical mind perspective, surface level, a person may indeed be unaware of certain truths, it still doesn’t mean that they absolutely need anyone’s help to re-discover them.

And from this viewpoint, from this understanding, help in a variety of forms can be offered to anyone who may want it, to anyone who just maybe could use it or to anyone who just maybe would really appreciate it.

And from that place of knowing, from that place where you love what you do; then an offer of help can be presented with an attitude of: that’s how I see it. Please feel free to take what you want from it, ignore it or reject it completely; it really doesn’t matter to me.

So simply offering help - and believing that somebody needs your help, the perspective of I know, but you don’t know - are two different ideas entirely.

What do you say?

asked 12 Apr '12, 23:49

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Hi Eddie , I say "Thank YOU " for the question and more importantly for me , that I went to your Inspired Self Help site , have only read a little so far , but reasonates so well with me , again , thank you for being you ;-) and me and us .

(22 Jul '12, 21:44) Starlight

Hi Starlight, IQ is a great way to get feedback on new ideas. I’m glad you like my site and thanks for the feedback, it's really appreciated. It's funny because as I’ve evolved (re-membered) over the past 3 years I’ve had to completely rewrite the site 3 times. Thank you for being you ♥

(22 Jul '12, 22:12) Eddie
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You're a dedicated man Eddie , rewriting once , I would imagine is huge , but three times , that's AMAZING ! Well done :-)

(22 Jul '12, 22:49) Starlight
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@Eddie, Hmm...for some reason I thought you were inactive on IQ for some time..have been to your site, very comprehensive:) I have downloaded the 'Self Empowering Reminders' in pdf on my mobile. Its helpful, short, precise and I can read it anywhere and those reminders work for me as if they're custom made::) Thanks Eddie

(23 Jul '12, 00:40) Xoomaville

@Xoomaville - I'm less active on IQ than before, although I still love answering questions when the timing's right. Cool, I'm glad that the SER pdf is helpful to you :)

(23 Jul '12, 02:25) Eddie
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I think we are just a group that is participating in a continuous virtual social event of like-minded people.

We have all privately "lived" within these ideas and never really had the chance to interact with others who "got" what we were talking about.

For example, if my co-worker says to me "I am really worried about my mother's health" I cannot say to them, "Your worry doesn't help her, in fact, it has the exact opposite effect", and expect them to "get it".

I have to first explain the whole process of how we influence the energy of creation with consciousness and that if we really want "health" in ourselves and others we cannot "manifest it" with worry.

However, here, in this forum, almost everyone "gets it" and we can move past the basic understanding of these ideas and get into more subtle and intangible areas of discovery.

We get to interact with people who also spend just as much time contemplating the nature of consciousness as we do.

This was a rare opportunity, until the existence of the internet, and its ability to facilitate this type of interaction.

By the way, Simon began Inward Quest before the invention of the word "Social Media".

In certain ways, what we are doing here is completely unique compared to any other depository of information.

We have bypassed the traditional tools of authentication that have served the dual purpose of providing accuracy and control upon information, with more emphasis on the word "control".

For the first time, we can access and share ideas that are not diluted by the lack of understanding of the body that scrutinizes the work.

Sometimes we tend to show off to each other in the guise of trying to help, from a perspective of wisdom, but the difference is that, because of the nature of the subject matter, that behaviour only makes our intentions more transparent to the rest of the group.

We are more attuned to the psychological intentions in others, and so, "It is not easy to fool this group of people"; however since we are polite in our demeanour we tend to ignore each other's desires of the ego, and we still enjoy our shared wisdom and shortcomings.

I enjoy contemplating and expanding my knowledge of this subject matter and my ego definitely enjoys talking about it here (let us be honest).

But most of all I love the fact that I can trust the information I learn from the rest of you because I know that the others here also committed to understanding and expanding the knowledge of this material through their own life experiences.

So "Does anyone really need my Help?"

I do not know.

However, I need their acknowledgement that I am not the only one who believes in this stuff.

Moreover, when I hear people share their own experience with "consciousness", "LOA" etc., just knowing that it works for others allows me to find comfort in knowing that I am not the only "nut job" who chose to walk this rather lonely path of personal growth, long before it became "cool enough" to be the regular subject matter on "Oprah".

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answered 13 Apr '12, 04:54

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i agree the traveller we are all equal and sharing truth love wisdom and experience together. i do not see you as a nut job. stop belittle your self like this. we are all on the path some realize it other do not. and we all have something to bring.

(13 Apr '12, 05:56) white tiger
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Thank you White Tiger for accepting my shortcomings and I shall do the same of everyone else as well.

(13 Apr '12, 06:35) The Traveller
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@The Traveller - However, here, in this forum, almost everyone "gets it" and we can move past the basic understanding of these ideas and get into more subtle and intangible areas of discovery ...yes, I agree. For some reason, this virtual place does seem to have collected a bunch of people who are collectively willing to push back the boundaries on reality-creation thinking for the good of all who subsequently read the interactions.

(13 Apr '12, 15:03) Stingray

@The Traveller That was very well said and I appreciate your insights and opinions on the subject.

(13 Apr '12, 15:07) Cory

Traveller, I feel the "nut job" was said tongue in cheek and I found it endearing , have been labelled that myself on more than one occasion and ........it sits quite nicely with me ;-)

(23 Jul '12, 01:56) Starlight
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I think everyone has the knowing within their own being to fully realize and step into their full potential.

To think someone needs my help is just arrogance from my perspective...believing they don't have what it takes to access their own power from within.

This does not deter from the fact that at some point on our journey most of us do indeed feel that we need help to point us in the right direction.

However, when we do realize that no-one else can really give us the answers (because each of us is having a unique experience and the answers we're looking for will always pertain to that experience) we begin to access that knowing and truly step into the person we came here to be. And by doing so we often find that we can then allow our own experience to help those who are in a similar place to where we were but only if they are asking.

I think the important thing to remember is that no-one needs our help... we can offer it if they are asking but only to the point where we know they are ready to step up and claim their own power.

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answered 13 Apr '12, 18:00

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I like your answer!

(13 Apr '12, 18:34) The Traveller

Thanks Traveller:)

(13 Apr '12, 18:58) Michaela

Thanks Michaela, that fits with my viewpoint :)

(13 Apr '12, 21:47) Eddie

@Michaela - great answer.

(23 Jul '12, 10:15) Catherine
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Hello Eddie,

A lot of people experience negative energy and as it is not comfortable to them or those around them, they search for help from others in order to get rid of it.

Some are just experiencing and learning about the life and other people's perspectives help them see things in a different light invoking a thought process within that would not be possible otherwise.

Let me quote:

Looking at circumstances neutrally, you will become more capable of understanding how it is you may be of assistance to others who may be caught up in their own definitions, and unable to see a way to break out of the situation and circumstances, and unable to understand that it is their own definitions that have made the circumstance seem so iron clad, when in fact it is made of nothing but tissue paper definitions.

People may not be asking for help directly, or even indirectly. It's not that they are lost and we need to help them find themselves. But knowing all you know and living the life you live doesn't "sharing" then feels as the right thing to do.

If you see someone sad and struggling and you, with all the knowledge you have gathered, are able to see past that sadness and struggle and recognize what is causing it, you want to help them be happy again.

From my personal point of view, I have rarely been in a happy environment. Most of my life I was surrounded by worries, struggle, negativity and people holding back. But I was always rather rebellious and when told to go left I went right. So all that negativity and pessimism sent me on journey of optimism and positivity. Nowadays, I know the difference between the two. Spiritually, emotionally, physically and mentally. It's the difference of having the world and not having anything at all. And I know how that world is beautiful, I wish everyone could see one day. And that is why I want to show people new, often times, unknown options to them. I do not need to persuade them that I'm right. The options and the worlds I show them will prove themselves.

I merely ofter a sight seeing ride.

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Thanks for seeing that perspective CalonLan. Quote from Bashar?

(13 Apr '12, 02:29) Eddie
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@Eddie, yes it is from Bashar, but I didn't want to mention it to prevent any degree of importance being assigned to the quote based on who said it. But rather what's the meaning of it.

(13 Apr '12, 02:33) CalonLan
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Fascinating. I was about to reply to this question only to find I already did. This answer is so much different from what I'd say now. haha.

(23 Jul '12, 02:27) CalonLan

Lol, yes, it's interesting how our understanding changes as we grow. You can always answer again...

(23 Jul '12, 04:01) Eddie
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weather truths are personal or not, people do need our help. When they can love themselves and have issues in their lives, we become the mirrors for them to see themselves. This is a vital role in human life and we must remember to be clean and clear mirrors for those we wish to help, what I mean by clean mirrors is come to them or respond to them in love and be yourself, do not cloud it with ego and imbalance. I hope this helps.

love n light

rob

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Hi TReb.
I see a double entry of the same answer from you. I think only you can delete the extra post (unless it was intentional for some reason). If you need me to temporarily change my "up" vote & delete this comment, let me know either here or at the bottom of my answer.
On the other hand, maybe Barry can investigate if it's a problem caused by the software.

(13 Apr '12, 06:53) The Traveller

vi·car·i·ous/vīˈkerēəs/ Adjective:
Experienced in the imagination through the feelings or actions of another person: "vicarious pleasure".

(13 Apr '12, 12:18) Constantine

Speaking as someone who looked for answers for a long time and also now can recognise someone the same from a mile away, the expression 'The teacher appears when the student is ready' seems to get truer as time goes by to me! Most 'students' will never get or even want to meet their 'teachers', I did and im very grateful! xx

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answered 13 Apr '12, 16:31

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Thanks Red Shoes.

(13 Apr '12, 21:53) Eddie

Jesus said, "Love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye."

(26) Jesus said, "You see the mote in your brother's eye, but you do not see the beam in your own eye. When you cast the beam out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to cast the mote from your brother's eye."

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html

Eddie is that your belief and your judgement? are do you have overflow from the heart? we are all equal here and helping each other by sharing the truth each to our own level. why do you feel more entitle then someone else? or do you think that your truth is the only truth? that is what you judge other people about is it not?read this:

Some people believe that they’ve discovered certain truths about life (or they believe there’s only one truth), while at the same time they observe or realize that many others in their world, apparently, have not seen those truths. And based upon their estimation that those others, somehow, need their help in order to see truth(s) and the action that they feel they must take in order to make others see; then they may be setting themselves up for disappointment and the pain which follows that.

are you setting your self up for disappointment and the pain which follows that? it is about you not about someone else.

if you do not want to receive help from other it is your free will.

and other have free will to receive it or not.

they also have free will to give help or not.

i am not a divider am i?

why do you want to divide?

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answered 13 Apr '12, 00:54

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i am the mirror so it is not about me is it? i have answer your question. it should matter to you it is about you. it is not about popularity Eddie. who cares about popularity? we are all equal.

(13 Apr '12, 01:51) white tiger

if you don't want answer don't ask question then if that is how you see things. because if only you exist then all of us don't exist then you ask question to your self and you do not listen to your self. then you ask question for nothing.

(13 Apr '12, 03:25) white tiger

you asked the question i gave you answer. you think i am not helping you only out of judgement. but you are not able to admit it. because in your universe you need to have the last word. you are still under ego my friend Eddie i do not judge you i tell you the truth but you do not accept it. and if you cannot accept all the truth and stay only in the truth that you believe is that not limiting your self Eddie? if you are comfortable in your limited truth it is your choice do not blame other.

(13 Apr '12, 05:00) white tiger
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White tiger. I have added this comment here to save you from actually having the last word after making a comment about the "last word".
It is a shame that most people do not appreciate your wisdom here because you share so much of your understanding with us.
It is a shame that they think that you are trying to "show off" and their misjudgement of you in this manner is obvious only to them.

(13 Apr '12, 05:24) The Traveller

thank you so much the traveller for telling the truth. and i do not write to have the last word. just to thank you. you can write a reply after this so that there is no confusion.some one wise can accept all truth good or bad that solve the duality and bring peace.thank you again the traveller and let us all continue sharing together with no judgement.

(13 Apr '12, 05:41) white tiger

We are not void of judgement. To claim yourself as wise is a judgement call of yourself. To sight someone other than yourself as wise is a call of judgement upon another. The type of judgement you admonish is negative judgement and even that is a judgement call. In Ecclesiastes 5:3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words. Even that is judgemental.

(13 Apr '12, 12:12) Constantine

So this is what the Sovereign LORD says: "See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation; the one who trusts will never be dismayed.

http://bible.cc/isaiah/28-16.htm the cornerstone is someone telling you the truth.

(13 Apr '12, 12:43) white tiger

Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: "'The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes'?
http://bible.cc/matthew/21-42.htm

(13 Apr '12, 12:48) white tiger

He who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed."

http://bible.cc/matthew/21-44.htm and it is true if someone tell you the truth and you judge them you will feel broken and if that person telling you the truth fall on you you will be crushed because it was the truth. the stone of foundation is truth.

(13 Apr '12, 12:57) white tiger
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Isaiah 28:16 is a prophecy of our Lord Jesus the Christ. Zion are the followers of our Lord. Zion is in essence the theory of our kingdom. In actuality we are routinely sinful, and fall short of the kingdom. We are perpetually at risk of damnation. To be saved is a twofold process. To convert from flesh to spirit, then to walk in spirit. The conversion is said to be easy, but the walk is hard.

(13 Apr '12, 14:43) Constantine

constantine do not walk sit meditate. the flesh is flesh the spirit is spirit. solve those duality in you that make you not at peace with your self and other, how by knowing the truth. yes even if you did not do a sin that simple overflow of the heart is enuff to make darkness in you. you have free will to be light or darkness. once learned you do not fall in the same traps again you know better.

(13 Apr '12, 23:54) white tiger
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@The Traveller - "Sometimes we tend to show off to each other in the guise of trying to help, from a perspective of wisdom, but the difference is that, because of the nature of the subject matter, that behaviour only makes our intentions more transparent to the rest of the group."

Well done! We show our true colors in the commnents we make here. If we read what we write or wrote, we can better understand that we are really writing to ourselves. While it may seem we are advising others, we are really saying to ourselves what we need, often so disparately, need to learn ourselves.

If you write about 'pain, inequity, stress, fear, division, resistance, anger' etc. We, at least I, need to look within and see where I am allowing these within me. Otherwise you can't see past the beam in your own eye. The Law of Attraction is absolute. If you see pain in others, if you see fear in others, if you see stress in others, it is because you have those things inside you, otherwise you could not see them in others. Those are the 'beams in your own eye.' Deal with them and only then can you have Unity.

We each have our own answers. It is simple, but maybe not easy to look at the things we think we find lacking in others and apply that advice to ourselves, for, often, the ego gets in the way and says, "I am right and you are wrong." or "I know the Path and you do not."

When the ego finds others are "being judgmental", or critical of its "teachings" the ego may lash out, trying to justify its own behavior, reinforcing a behavioral trait "that behaviour only makes our intentions more transparent to the rest of the group." We Need to get past the knee-jerk response to lash out against others and spend some time on inner reflection.

So my answer to this question is No, we can only help ourselves, but we can better understand ourselves in a matrix of relationships. A matrix of mirrors. We define ourselves through our relationships.

I am using "you" in a general, not personal sense.

As we progress, we can only achieve Unity, to be one with the Father, to know the Truth and be free by seeing the Beauty in others, then we are really seeing them through the eyes of Source or God. This, alone, draws us closer to God.

Seeing their flaws, and wanting to try and 'help' or 'teach' them a better way should only point our minds in the direction that we need to work on within ourselves. We [think] we teach best what we actually need to learn.

To thine ownself be true. Trying to live the life of another is futile and the mark of a fake messiah.

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answered 13 Apr '12, 08:45

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Thanks for your perspective Dollar Bill.

(13 Apr '12, 08:57) Eddie

An answer is to a question as a question is to an answer. Neither is greater than the other, but both are important. Give thanks to the answer as the answer gives thanks to the question. Ignorance can be found in questions and answers. Ignorance is not prejudice to either position. Ironically, questions and answers can learn from ignorance as well.

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Thanks Constantine.

(13 Apr '12, 21:52) Eddie

I see it like a big puzzle and we are the puzzle pieces. Our job is to find and to fit in our spot. If the people who came before us are in their spots, that will help us to find our spot. However, if the other people are busy trying to show other people where they belong, they will not be in their spot to help the people that need them to be in their spot so that they can find their spot. So the best way to help others is to find your own spot and stay there so that the others can come to you and see if that's where they fit. When they come to you, then you can help them to find their spot, not where you think their spot should be. And just maybe, you will find that you are in the wrong spot after all and have to move. So if you have any doubts about your own spot, how can you be sure that you will guide the other people to their right spots? So if we find our spot and enjoy our spot and be available to help others that come to us for help, then we are the biggest help to others. Afterall, if we 'help' somebody force themselves into the wrong spot, we didn't really help them at all.

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Thanks Fairy Princess, that's a truly self-empowering view point :)

(13 Apr '12, 21:51) Eddie
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