Once upon a time, astronauts from other planets landed on earth and the people from earth did not have the understanding and knowledge of what they were. They had abilities and powers far greater than the people of earth. They assumed that they must be gods and began to worship them and based their religion and beliefs around them.
Now forward thousands of years and here you are, descendants of those earth people still believing that these ancient astronauts were gods.
Kind of makes you feel silly if you think about it.
You can get mad and answer with all kinds of bible verses and facts and nick nacks and paddie whacks, but it still doesn't change what really happened.
How any intelligent human being can believe in all of this god bs is amazing. On the other hand, if you need the crutch, then more power to you.
You believe in what you want and I will believe in what I want. I am fully confident in my beliefs and you may say that you are, but I have a feeling that when you are driving alone or when you are lying in bed, you are wondering if everything that you have been taught and believed in through the years is all based on a misunderstanding.
A better question to ask might be If you found out that God existed would it change your life?
Let's face it we're all on a quest to find out If God exists or Why we're here. The Traveller's wonderful answer above touched on the experience of God through Faith. I'd even take that one step further because the word experience itself is temporary.
When we harness the power of Faith we begin trusting that evolutionary impulse that most of us call God that moves through us as, us and It's no longer a temporary experience but a Way of living that we begin to embody in our everyday lives and that's where growth takes place and we become the living embodiment of that which we're seeking.
And when I Am lying in my bed at night I can reflect on the fact that each and every day I'm doing my best to express that aspect of God potential known as Michaela.
you can't say that it is bullshit to believe in god. first you must define god. perhaps your definition of god doesn't exist? perhaps you think that god is a man with white beard? but what if i think that god is all that exists? so in this situation, you are god and i am god too. so you can't say "what if he doesn't exist?" imo. that would mean that you and i wouldn't exist. then everything would be meaningless.
answered 21 Sep '12, 20:32
God is the conceptual unknown.
It is that "unknown" that is accepted and acknowledged as the Creator, or "All that is".
So it is impossible to invalidate the concept, because anything that is of validity is no longer the "unknown"
But why does this "unknown" have such power over reason?
Because of a strange and wonderful phenomenon called FAITH.
We call it something else in this place, but that's not the discussion here.
FAITH produces results and this can be confirmed by anyone who is willing to leap with confidence into the loving embrace of this Unknown presence.
By reading those words you may think that I am talking about something out there somewhere.
It's in the last place that you are willing to look.
Because the one who is looking feels so imperfect.
Anyway this post is not about where to look, it's about existence.
I have never looked for God outside.
If it were outside, I am sure it is possible to debate which "thing" has been confused as God.
My connection to God has always been "inside" within the experience that remains in deep contemplation when the existence of my 5 senses fades into the background leaving only the presence of my spirit as my dimension of existence.
In this place, within the absence of all senses, Quantitative things are left far behind in favor of boundless creativity.
It is in discovering "this place of creativity" that the very question, where does God exist even begins to make sense.
It's the difference between just traveling on foot and questioning the validity of everything that passes by and then getting the chance to travel at the speed of light and beginning to wonder if there is anything beyond that.
So the question of God only begins to make sense when the power of the spirit is stumbled upon by the individual, who then begins to acknowledge the existence of this "spiritual side".
Until such an experience, it is just a game of words and a declaration of the ignorance of the spirit.
answered 21 Sep '12, 18:40
God is one of the most misused and thus misinterpreted words in all languages.
Nearly all religions started as one person (called prophet after a while) who sat alone in a cave or desert in silence and after a while realized something. when he (and probably some women we don't know of) came back to his people and friends, in order to share his excitement, he had to use the only means of communication that he had: WORDS. So words (some clicking sounds made by human mouth and tongue) were used in a context that they are not capable of handling. It was usually fine while the prophet himself was alive but after his death the disciples and later holly[business] men came into the picture and misinterpretations began. Most notably god became some creature (like a very strong man) living far far away who is sometimes happy and compassionate and sometimes angry and unforgiving and most of the time saying things that don't make sense (very unstable :) ).
This big guy is the god you're talking about and correctly arguing that he does not exist. If the prophet himself came back to life after a thousand years and met his followers he wouldn't have a clue what they're talking about.
The moment you call god, god your not talking about god anymore. You are talking about a finite entity which is bound to a label. Daodejing a Chinese text, written around the 6th century BC, talking entirely about god (dao) clears this at the beginning of the text:
These days spiritual teachers try to avoid words like god, spirit, love, etc because of these misinterpretations and use words like consciousness, being, etc instead (Traditional spiritual poets of Iran where also wisely aware of this and used parables like butterfly and candle for seeker and god, wine for love, etc)
I have seen a 10 hour documentary about the ancient astronauts who came to earth and manipulated apes DNA to make us. Personally I don't think there's enough scientific evidence to support this theory but this is a possibility and no one can deny it. One could also have a theory that the entire universe was created a second ago with dinosaur fossils in the ground and our memories artificially programmed into hour brains. Even though its crazy, this is another possibility and no one can deny this either.
The important thing is that we are here now as points of consciousness. God is the context, the consciousness, the space in which everything happens. If the theory of ancient astronauts were true it happened in this context. If we where made in any other way it happened in this space of consciousness.
When you see a beautiful flower, that tiny moment before your mind interferes and starts labeling and interpreting the flower is when your in touch with god. Realizing god is like the moment a ripple becomes aware that it is not just a short-lived ripple but in the depth it is an eternal ocean. Not a part of the ocean but the ocean. This cannot be achieved through mind and reason, Every one should be his/her prophet and realize it for him/her self.
answered 22 Sep '12, 10:30
yes it would because i could not read or reply to your question because nothing would be created. god has created everything that exist and is aware of the truth of everything from the beguinning to the end. so with out God nothing exist. if your question would have been if you would not have to belief that god exist? then i would have tell you that in my case it does not change annything. i would still be a living one staying in the truth with a good soul(mind and heart). you see many do not like religion and think that it is all men creation.that is only one part of the truth. the real truth is that men have writen about things according to their own level of understanding,and some have manipulated things if you read those writing and study the truth about it then you would know what is the lie or if you find the lie and get not stuck on the lie then you will eventually know the truth. i will give you example of this: 1 Now there came a man of the Pharisees whose name was Nicodemus, a member of the council. 2 He came to Jesus at night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could do the miraculous signs that you do unless God were with him.”
3 Jesus replied, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter his mother’s womb and be born a second time, can he?”
5 Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born from above.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
9 Nicodemus replied, “How can these things be?”
10 Jesus answered, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you don’t understand these things? 11 I tell you the solemn truth, we speak about what we know and testify about what we have seen, but you people do not accept our testimony. 12 If I have told you people about earthly things and you don’t believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended into heaven except the one who descended from heaven—the Son of Man. 14 Just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.”
16 For this is the way God loved the world: he gave his one and only Son that everyone who believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. 18 The one who believes in him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God. 19 Now this is the basis for judging: that the light has come into the world and people loved the darkness rather than the light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil deeds hates the light and does not come to the light, so that their deeds will not be exposed. 21 But the one who practices the truth comes to the light, so that it may be plainly evident that his deeds have been done in God.146
read it and look at thoses two passage: 11 I tell you the solemn truth, we speak about what we know and testify about what we have seen, but you people do not accept our testimony.
16 For this is the way God loved the world: he gave his one and only Son that everyone who believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
what we know means more then one. then more then one have given is testimony. then why does it say that only one son of god came to give is testimony? when jesus has teach that God is the holy father and we are all brother and sister and that we are children of the light and should follow is example. or does it means that more then one came but there is only one that is like the wind and being a light to the world that comes from above. to tell people the truth about the kingdom of god? or was it their own understanding that was lacking when they wrote that? you see jesus did not do anny division between the father and the children he was in truth. and that is also why they killed him,because they could not stand in truth and they could not accept that they are god because they are made in the image of the father,and their sin their own darkness is what keep them from the father and the kingdom of god.
No it would not change my life at all. I think it's because the God concept of morality and ethics, love one another and striving for the highest good is within me.
answered 23 Sep '12, 00:01
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