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I, being a channeler, have had myself and Treb asked this question so much due to different changelings, and also peoples way of perception. This is so upsetting to me to see so many people fearing ascension because of this. So by a man I was asked if he can choose to stay back with his wife because he understood it that she would not ascend or ascend negativity because of her mindset. This is what I wrote.


and as simple as this question is, the answer is a bit more complicated. but nonetheless, here it is

A--ok, well this is a deep question and here is what i feel, if ur wife is loving, and loves others as well as herself, instead of only herself, than u will be fine, children are pure vibration and lessen only from birth to ages that are older, so now, i see it like this, if she is loving, she will ascend in same way as u,, and with trebs teachings it is like this... all will ascend both ways,, so if she is not loving person, and more selfish than otherwise, it will still be ok, the earth splits into two portions,, each carries more consciousnesses than the other, so , she will still be with u, u will only experience her in a less way,, but still be valid,, most people expect complete separation form all that is opposite, and it is not really this way, it is a separation of consciousnesses and the way u are at the time, and the way u are more of, this is what u will experience. Now with this being said. if someone is almost all one way, then sure, they will be on the earth they are most fit for, so in the other version, their consciousnesses will be so low, that they will seem to disappear,, weather it is by death or by slowly leaving all existences who know them ,, even with this it wont be Instant.. only a purging,, it is a purging of all negative out of the positive version of u, and the purging of the positive out of the negative version of you, and both will still exist,. the ones which u feel and want the most, will be the earth and reality that you experience of the two... I hope I didn't make it worse for you ?

asked 17 Dec '12, 16:37

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TReb Bor yit-NE

edited 18 Dec '12, 07:49

Regardless of what date and time it is, I've felt the distance between me and the world increasing every day. The more negativity I drop from my world, the less I feel the need for positivity.

(18 Dec '12, 05:21) CalonLan

@CalonLan that is beautifully said my dear friend..

(18 Dec '12, 07:47) TReb Bor yit-NE
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I don't think we will notice any change on that day.

My understanding is that a change is still happening but its window is so wide that we cannot notice the difference between the two different realities.

In fact, I think the rate of change that we normally experience, such as aging or existing un-cultivated land being turned into new housing developments and skyscrapers is most likely happening at a faster rate than the so-called dimensional change that we are anticipating.

So just like noticing new buildings going up and then remembering the former location as a memory, which is a perfectly normal experience for all of us, the dimensional change will also seem like a perfectly normal transition and literally invisible from a day-to-day point of view.

There is also the effect of our in-ability to remember the details between one dimension and another as we experience every day when we go the sleep and wake up.

If you have a very vivid dream, and then you suddenly wake up in the middle of it, you will find that unless you write down the details immediately, you forget the dream rather quickly and you don't lose any sleep (pardon the pun), over the fact that you couldn't retain the details of your dream.

So while the dimensional shift of sleeping and waking up is only minutes apart, and even then, we suffer instant memory loss, what are the chances of us retaining any memory of a dimensional shift that spans many years?

There is also the possibility that this whole thing is made up by a few intelligent pranksters to keep the misfits like us occupied.

Let us all be realistic here, while I really WANT many of these ideas to be true, I cannot verify the truth in them until they happen.

It is easy to test the law of attraction. But how can we test the validity of the dimensional shift or doomsday predictions?

The existence of written material, or even artifacts and rock carvings are not proof that something is actually going to happen.

If an alien came down from the skies and told me that a dimensional shift is going to happen, even then, it is not proof that there will be change, it only proves that aliens exist.

Besides, look at what happened to all the native populations that thought their conquers were Gods.


answered 17 Dec '12, 22:56

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@The Traveller And I was really looking forward to Friday!

(18 Dec '12, 04:28) Catherine

Me too!,..Cirque du Soleil: Worlds Away 3D in cinemas! yay.

(18 Dec '12, 05:03) CalonLan

the traveller, the earth turns by seconds but more noticable after an hour, nature moves in cycles and rythms as dawn slowly lights to day and sunset back to darkness

(18 Dec '12, 21:02) fred
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You could compare it to when a person chooses to raise their frequency- and then becomes a more generally positive than negative. Abraham always says in order for their to be an interaction, someone has to join the other on their level- so someone has to go up or someone has to go down.

What I've noticed in my own experience, the people around me actually have seemed to become more uplifted, rather than disappear completely. I have one friend who just pops in and out of my life frequently... so even if a person is generally negative, it doesn't mean they will disappear. I think it would depend on how grounded they are in their negativity... do they join you when you are uplifted, even sometimes? I think it helps to look at it from that perspective.


answered 17 Dec '12, 17:20

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the time is always make your choice wisely, until the last day when the wheat and the tares will be uprooted for the harvest.

Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. —Matthew 13:24-30

on the last day one will live and one will die.

O you Christians, whose lives are good, you sigh and groan as being few among many, few among very many. The winter will pass away, the summer will come; lo! The harvest will soon be here. The angels will come who can make the separation, and who cannot make mistakes. ... I tell you of a truth, my Beloved, even in these high seats there is both wheat, and tares, and among the laity there is wheat, and tares. Let the good tolerate the bad; let the bad change themselves, and imitate the good. Let us all, if it may be so, attain to God; let us all through His mercy escape the evil of this world. Let us seek after good days, for we are now in evil days; but in the evil days let us not blaspheme, that so we may be able to arrive at the good days.


answered 17 Dec '12, 17:07

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I believe I will always be with my loved ones. Since we are here barely 100 years I think we'll go on as is, learning and growing in love of self and all others.

Maybe some will already be looking for spiritual improvement simply from the hoopla of 12-21-12 so it may have created a momentum after all.


answered 18 Dec '12, 04:31

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