How would you react if an archaeological discovery revealed that most of the Gospels came from an earlier Greek myth.
Suppose a parchment were discovered that clearly
predated the time of Jesus, but it contained almost all of the New Testament accounts
of his teachings and his life, including the crucifixion and resurrection. Only the
central character is someone named Attis who lived in Asia Minor after being born of
a virgin and a Zeus-like god. The parchment is inspected and tested by scientists and
declared to be genuine and from an era before Jesus' time. Scholars eventually
conclude that the long forgotten myth of Attis was adapted and embellished by a
group of Jewish reformers during the Roman occupation of Palestine, and there never
was a Jesus of Nazareth
There is a question among biblical scholars as to whether Paul wrote "Hebrews". So?
Who wrote the Gospels or when, is irrevelant to me. I get good insights when reading the Bible as well as many other popular "inspired" religious books.
The message comes through!
When you get a letter from a Loved One does it matter which mailman delivered it?
answered 14 Dec '13, 06:02
Good point ursixx. We and I mean "we" as in very large sectors of mankind, have deified these writings and declared them " Gods word".
Yet we simply havnt a definite idea of exactly who wrote them, who they were, what they were and where and when they wrote it.
We can of course find "our own" proof of the validity of any document, but its not what I would call "proof".Just because somethings written in a document written by someone ive never known doesn't for me mean it comes directly from the mouth of some being called god whos outside of my own consciousness and entirely separate from me.
The legend of Mithras as Wade has mentioned has many of the core characteristics of the story of the physical Christ.
I would say this thou, I wasn't there at the time! No one I know was.
Much could well have been added and subtracted from these documents, I have a suspicion that within the vaults of the catholic church lie many secrets that would put the cat amongst the pidgeons in relation to what we call scripture. Like it or not the roman catholic church have had more to do with gathering together these documents and deciding whats in or out . Those of a protestant and evangelical bent have been handed a document by this church, who have been custodians of these writings for 2 thousand years.
I do what most people do with these writings, take what resonates. Most people do of course, but they wouldn't admit it.
answered 14 Dec '13, 05:20
Having proof for or against something will not have any effect on people. From the beginning of history, everyone knows anger brings more problems than the situation you are angry about--this is something everyone has understood from HIS OWN experience! Yet anger rules over people. Lust has brought even emperors to shame! Yet lust too rules over people! So is greed! Interestingly, Jesus has observed: Good people will continue to do good, because that is what they have been practicing. And the bad people will continue to do bad, because that is what they have been practicing. (Mathew 13:35) Jesus did so many good things (if written down "even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written." John 21:25) This includes his showing of power over natural forces and death itself. Yet people killed him! Not only him, even all others those who tried to correct the system were shaved off from the earth!
answered 16 Dec '13, 05:50
T D Joseph
In my understanding, the past is unreal. A supposition, if you will. There is evidence, which is technically further supposition, to establish a belief in a remote past, though the past and all things allegedly from the past are observably unreal, as they exist now, and not then.
With that said, and hopefully understood, the narrative of 'life of Jesus' matters not to Christ within You. The story is an example and reminder of Who You Are, and is not the only story around that does this. Just one of the most celebrated or revered.
So, I would find it genuinely humorous if the story came earlier than what is believed currently. It would tickle my funny bone. And then, I'd consider the story again and take from it what I currently take from it, where the Message is greater than the human adoration of the messenger, or idol, if you will.
"Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in Me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will He do"
This trumps all that was done on the the cross and all notions of sacrificing one's self for the alleged sin of others.
answered 21 Dec '13, 12:53
@ursixx, It would make no difference. Even if they found the Gospels came from Delta quadrant's planet Tok'onath Prime, written by an alien race we know nothing of.
Since I learned to form a perception and then dismantle it and form a contradictory one, only to arrive at the point of understanding the object of my perceiving where both of my point of views meet.
I don't need jesus nor buddha to guide me what to do or where to go. Lao tzu taught me well to not follow any teachings. lol =)
answered 02 Jan '14, 03:33
I wouldn't care. It's not about the mythology. It's about the MORALITY. The Ancients held on to these stories for a reason.
Jesus Christ, the idea of a Savior whether Jesus, Horus, Krishna, it speaks about The Golden Rule COMPASSION for others - HELPING others, not withdrawing into your own mind for happiness but to also SHARE the happiness with others.
answered 21 Dec '13, 12:32
there is all ready a document like this it is the gnostic gospel of Thomas. it is not Greek, in my case it would not change anything except that I could maybe learn something new if there is something new in it. see it that way Jesus, Buddha Bodhi Dharma, Enoch, Hermes, many of them have achieve and experienced the above even if they use different language and have different understanding. on many point their puzzle pieces match and they did not know each other in this world or the teaching of the other. if I ask you what is a tree or what is the sun. you have seen it and will give a description that will be very similar to someone else. then what would change? unless you have a deeper understanding or new fact relating to it, it would be the same. and we would all know what you are talking about because it is something we all know. am I telling the truth? also in this world many are prone to error so seek the truth first. do not believe blindly. seek until you find.
answered 22 Dec '13, 14:25
My point for mentioning Mithras and Horus is that there are books, videos and articles that exactly say the story of Jesus was based on earlier stories.
This has no effect on my faith except to strengthen it. Not from defiance or denial but from confirmation. Christ is through all time from the beginning. Names may change but the essence of being remains and so these other stories that are earlier Krishna was one too that I remember, these reinforce my faith in Christ.
answered 15 Dec '13, 08:41
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