This is a very specific question and I don't know if anyone has a specific answer to it but I'd like to hear your opinions about it anyway.
I've been testing @Stingray's "Manifesting Experiment 5 - Draft 2" for the last couple of days and I'm very impressed by it and how quick and efficient it is. Especially the idea of focusing and tapping on body sensations first and tapping on statements second seems to make the process very efficient.
In my experience with many methods and ways of clearing resistance over the years, it seems that the faster you identify the core belief (logically) or the core resistance (sensation within the physical body), the faster you can clean it up. And also, the faster your clearing method works afterwards, the faster the resistance seems to be gone completely.
(As a little side note, I'd recommend doing the "Kinesthetic Quick Tap" when applying ME5 - Draft 2 with Faster EFT to make it even faster and more efficient)
My humble theory is that Abraham's 17-68 second rule plays a crucial part in that. Because if one activates a subject and thinks about it for 68 seconds of uninterrupted time (or maybe less these days), one creates a new belief regardless of whether it's negative or positive.
So the more time one spends staying in a pure, focused negative vibration, the more he invites other thoughts into his thought process that are like that.
Clearing a specific subject within 68 seconds or less often feels to me like a "clean cut" without having to invite other related thoughts (which kind of backs up my theory for me).
But sometimes one may want to invite other related thoughts intentionally because one wants to do a bigger clean-up (or un-intentionally because there may be other related core beliefs to a subject and cleaning it up within 68 seconds or less may not be possible).
So then what to do? Is there sweet spot for doing bigger clean-ups?
What are your thoughts on the sweet spot in terms of time for clearing subjects anyway?
asked 27 Jun '15, 20:44
It's a great question and gets right to the heart of what this new approach is about.
Most of ME-5 Draft 2 is a consolidation of existing methods that we've talked about on Inward Quest, especially Robert Smith's stacking-emotional-states idea within the Kinesthetic Quick Tap you've mentioned.
The new thing that this method brings to the table is the idea that there appears to be a difference between "letting it all out" and being "negatively focused".
In other words, if you let someone complain about something that's really bothering them at that moment, there will be a initial burst of negativity (they "let it all out") and then there's a short period where they pause and they then feel better.
Now if they continue beyond that feel-better point, they are going to start feeling worse again and are going to start setting up habits of thought that the Law of Attraction will respond to (in 17 second chunks, if they are negatively-focusing purely).
But if you can intercept that feel-better point, it appears you can make it a useful cut-off point for some vibrational change.
The idea for this approach actually comes from years of watching the British stand-up comedian Stewart Lee.
His stand-up routines are really quite unique among the comedians I've seen because they require incredible self-confidence and shameless audacity. If you care what the audience are thinking about you with this approach, you're sunk :)
To break it down, what he essentially does is come up with a joke that the audience finds mildly amusing, perhaps barely amusing. Then he keep repeating it in subtly different ways (sometimes he just repeats the exact same joke/line) until the audience starts feeling uncomfortable, then embarrassed, then annoyed...you can almost feel the audience members thinking "Did I pay for this?? This isn't even funny. What is this guy doing??".
Now he does something that very few comedians would ever dare do when the audience is worked up into that state of anger/annoyance (most would run off the stage hanging their heads in shame)...
...what he does is to continue repeating the same joke/line :)
An interesting effect then occurs within the audience regarding all their pent-up frustration/anger - and that is that the audience starts to laugh again...and this time they laugh even more than at the start.
And the laughter builds and builds even though he's just repeating the same joke/line over and over again. Once that crescendo of laughter has dissipated, he then pauses at that Sweet Spot, and then finally moves on with his routine.
What Stewart Lee has realized is that laughter is a dissipation of energy and that he'll get more laughs by deliberating building-up that energy through forcing the audience to feel uncomfortable for a while, and then allowing them to release it again....he's allowing them to "let it all out" through the laughter.
He even acknowledges that's what he does with his routines in a routine that demonstrates the effect...
Now, I believe that if he continued with the joke/line beyond that "let it all out" point, he would probably be boo-ed off the stage by an angry audience, or somebody would just shoot him :)
So now tying these ideas back to ME-5 Draft 2, I think there appears to be a Sweet Spot just after that initial surge of "complaining to the sheet", where someone can then step in with a fast clean-up method (like EFT, Faster EFT) and quickly move the subject of the complaints to a permanently different vibrational level.
Going beyond that Sweet Spot might be risky because you would be moving into "negative focus" (with all the 17-68 second focusing implications) rather than "letting it all out".
I'm still testing out these ideas for myself but I'm thinking that any "bigger" clean-up using these ideas would be constrained by that natural vibrational pausing-point.
"Complaining" beyond that point will probably end up with you being boo-ed off your vibrational stage, or the Law of Attraction would just shoot you :)
I know just what you mean, and I've wondered a bit about this myself. Ultimately, for me anyway, I think that it is intuitive on a case-by-case basis.
If I have to wrangle with something for too long, it usually means to me that there is more there to look into, and I need to go deeper. For me, most of the clearing I have to do are things I already know about, but just didn't think to apply it to the circumstance in question. Like, this or that made me unhappy.... oh yeah but I've already learned how to handle this, and have made good decisions on how I want to deal with these feelings - duh! I just didn't realize it is the same thing, different person, place, etc. Tap tap tap gone! ;)
So many things fall under very broad general headings in my experience, and I've covered so much ground in the past few years, that this is the most common senerio for me.
If this isn't the case, and I have the feeling that I'm forcing a happy face onto a bad feeling, a red flag goes up, and I know to stop and work a bit more with it.
I hope that makes sense. It feels funny to talk about it - it's so personal, I hardly ever think of how another person would view it. I don't know if anyone else does this.
Love, Grace :)
answered 27 Jun '15, 21:33
a premise logically
answered 28 Jun '15, 06:41
Update 1st july 2015
Ok lets start from the beginning; the very first step I take towards the sweet spot is to quietly close my eyes and become aware of the vasr space within, it's the space that appears to exist inside me, I can't touch it I can't see it, nobody else can touch it or see it, but I perceive it as a vast space inside me ... emotions, thoughts and feelings appear in my inner space, sure I've tried many times to try to alter, delete, rub-out, re-frame the content of my inner space using all kinds of techniques sophrologie, reiki, magnetism, hypnotism, psychotherapies, the list is long, very long. I feel like I've been at war with myself and others.
I found this vast place inside me many years ago when I was in prison, it seems that emprisonnement is a great way of liberating the spirit and I certainly find this to be true. This reminds of the magical ceremony to release the spirit from the body, the person is bonded from head to toe with just enough space to breath and hung upside down, it corresponds to the hanged man in tarot
In this position in prison I realized what duality was all about, there's the outer world a small room with a single bed, a wash basin and toilet, a small table and a chair. There's a window that I could open and vertical iron bars preventing any escape, What I really enjoyed doing was feed the sparrows that flew around the building.
There was permanent noise 24 hours a day 7 days a week, each month of every year. People yelling and tapping on the walls, there was spit and rotting food splashed on windows that were never cleaned. On a good day I could take it, on a bad day it way 10 times worse than I could have ever imagined.
I noticed that all prisoners entering cracked in some way, a lot became aggressive, others became obsessional, others ended up in the psychiatric hospital there were as many different ways of cracking as there were people. Some seemed to enjoy themselves.
Sure I cracked a little in all these ways, I lost my identity, I felt like I'd lost even my name I was just a four figure number 2687 but after a while I found real comfort inwards, there nobody could see or touch me unless I chose.
I had discovered the Inner world. I had discovered what Eckhart Tolle names nonduality, the ultimate liberation, but I believe there's more to come, more to it than just simple ultimate liberation.
I didn't realize at the time but I had actually changed dimensions ... I had found a second dimension and this second dimension I can feel it now and whenever I want.
What does all this mean? it means I'm aware of duality, and that we all live in duality. and being aware allows me to rise above it and see it more clearly and how t functions. It also means I can see plentude the whole, unity
Imagine for a moment the world before humans came along, emotions evolved that allow animals to behave in a flexible and adaptive manner, notice there's no concept of good or bad all the emotions just "are" and serve a purpose for the animals ... later humans come into the picture, now it seems there are "negative" emotions and "positive" emotions but where did these concepts come from?
It's source energy that holds and feeds the bodies of humans together and it's that same source energy that holds and feeds the bodies of animals together, so the only conclusion I can come up with is that somehow humans "invented" the concept of negative and positive.
Definition of invent in The Free Dictionary; to make up, fabricate - to produce or create with the imagination.
Definition of invent in the Urban Dictionary; invent is't defined. Can you define it?
In my experience humans invented the concept negative/positive and along the same lines they also invented amongst many other things the concept of good/bad. I also notice that humans are mostly unaware that they did so.
To resume there's original energy that has been modified by human intervention to produce a modified original energy
and it's the modified original energy that most people perceive as being original energy
Original energy can be represented by a bubble of colour blue, human intervention can be represented by a bubble of green and modified original energy can be represented by a bubble of red.
what I'd like to say is that now @Grace can see how close she is with her "red flag", she's standing at the doorway. The sweet spot mentioned by @releaser99 is represented is situated somewhere on the diagram. At this point you may be asking yourself "so how does he know all this, it's just maybe a load of hocus pocus"
All this I have lived through in my own personal experience, it's nothing to do with thinking, intelligence, concepts or ideas ... it's all about emotional experiences.
So what is all this, what does it signify? The question is "what is the sweet spot in terms of time for making cleanups highly efficient"
Well now the "sweet spot" has been localized as being somewhere on this diagram.
Here's a deeper explanation of what going on ... the red spot is accessible using language, the green and blue spots are beyond language as such, meaning words no longer have any sense because they're broken into pieces, into their constituent parts that is, in the case of english, into the letters of the alphabet, and further along the line letters are reduced to algorisms, flowing arabic numerals, flowing patterns like symphonies of music, vibrations.
What do I mean by human intervention?
At birth I was aware of all these flowing patterns, these vibrations that appeared in my consciousness, but I didn't have words for them. For example when I saw the colour "red" I could feel it's vibrations, it was there in my consciousness ... when I saw "red" and when my mother was present sometimes she uttered a sound, so I started to associate the vibration "red" that I could see and feel with the sound "red" that my mother uttered.
When you really think about it this system of arbitrary labeling can be source of tensions, which language way of expressing it is correct "red" "rouge" "أحمر" "rooi" i kug" "gorria" "punane" "piros" "赤" "қызыл" "ചുവപ്പ്" "улаан" "красный" ... to name just a few. Red is just one word and easy for everyone to understand. Imagine what happens when the thing in question cannot be perceived by the five senses e.g. yin yang, magnetism electricity, negative positive,
Definition of language on The Free Dictionary; communication of thoughts and feelings through a system of arbitrary signals, such as voice sounds, gestures or written symbols.
Definition of language in the Urban Dictionary; device invented to hide our thoughts.
Coming from my own personal experience the ''sweet spot'' is a detached, relaxed awareness, where I'm not influenced or pulled into the drama of the wounded mind, instead being more in a state of allowing, allowing it to throw it's tantrums while just being a ''witness'' and saying ''whatever'' to it's dramas. This has worked wonders for me because the cleanup requires no effort whatsoever, it's done automatically as the mind's negative influence and momentum is dissolved on it's own. To me this has been a more natural approach and all of the credit goes to detaching, letting go, and allowing. As for the core limited beliefs, they seem to dissolve layer by layer, as well as their residual negative energies, which have lost momentum as well. While some would prefer using different methods to clean up, they could get faster results, as what has worked for myself, requires much patience, but no forced effort is needed as far as aligning, it just becomes second nature by allowing everything to be as it is, and while you focus on being in a relaxed state of awareness, the cleanup/dissolving happens naturally.
answered 30 Jun '15, 11:49
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