The soul / nonphysical part of us humans is essentially a parasite. Or is it genetically part of us. either way what is a human without it ?
Let’s look at it from this angle :)
Scientifically, metaphysically and spiritually we know that physical matter doesn’t have an objective reality of its own. Although we experience life in this physical reality as being real, science, using scientific method has yet to prove the existence of physical matter. Therefore, to borrow the explanations of many who came before us, the reality we see and experience is illusion.
We all have a sense of ‘I’ which is our personality and we know that change is the only constant in our perception of reality. Now although the ‘I’ or our personality believes that it is something real, fixed or permanent; when you examine closely you’ll find that because change is the only constant, really there is no ‘I’ as the center, because change is the natural order of the universe, so the ‘I’ is in a state of constant flux.
Therefore, not only is the physical world in which we live an illusion, so is the ‘I’ that we believe to be so real. So in answer to your question, without the non-physical soul – we are nothing. Without the soul desiring and thinking about creating an expression of itself in physicality, for its own reasons; there is no ‘I’ to consider. The ‘I’ is in fact an imagination of the soul, so without that imagination everything else is a moot point.
Can you see how freeing that is? Can you see why there’s no such thing as death, but only changing forms? Can you allow yourself to lighten up and let the expression of your soul, who you really are, to shine brightly through the artificial construct of your personality self?
answered 12 Aug '11, 09:32
I think I'm probably interpreting soul differently to you ursixx. I think what you may be referring to is what I what equate with the involuntary or me mind which I think at times could be likened to a parasite when we give it control to do what it wants. Even that I don't think we can or should get rid off fully because we need it to a certain degree to be able to navigate on this physical plateau. However we do have to take back the reins and relegate it to the position of servant where it enhances our lives rather than disabling showing up in dysfunctional behaviours and disabling us.
What I call soul I equate more with the state of higher awareness or I mind which is still connected to the source from which we came, and when we tap into it we gain the wisdom to lead a more fruitful happier life... so naturally we cannot, and would never want to, get rid off it.
answered 09 Aug '11, 18:39
Consciousness is in ALL things, in every being "alive" or inanimate. We are souls using these bodies as vehicles to express "being-ness' on this planet. You are your body and your soul and your mind. When we are done with this body we move on. Intelligence knows no bounds.
I am everything and nothing
Everywhere and no-where
Living now in this wonderful body for the time being.
I am a soul riding in this body.
And it is a joyous ride!
answered 29 Dec '10, 23:13
I have used these following examples to convey this idea in the past but I have no idea for which question I used them so I'm going to re-use these examples.
I choose to comprehend this mystery in this manner.
Example (1) you are like a light bulb and you come alive when electricity flows through you. The "YOU" that you know is not the light bulb, but in every way (5 senses) the data that you can gather seems to suggest that you are the light bulb. You are in fact the electricity that is flowing through the light bulb, and it is this electricity part of yourself that you describe as the "soul" in order to comprehend and give it a finite definition.
Example (2) a child is playing with 5 dolls. Each doll has a name, personality, dreams, etc. Life unfolds as in reality among the dolls. Sometimes, the dolls play together; sometimes they pull each other apart to pieces.
In the bigger picture nothing (your consciousness) really gets destroyed because what is learned at our soul level automatically becomes part of the source data just like the child's mind retains the experience of being the mind of the doll.
What are we without our soul?
In brief, dead!
It is our soul which animates our physical form. When this form is worn out or damaged beyond repair, the soul departs the body, and returns to Heaven.
I think I can offer you some definitive "proof" that we have a soul, and it is NO parasite- it is, in fact, our very being!
When I was a child, I left my body at will, and journeyed freely, separate in every way from my physical form.I used to fly around and go places. The day the angels told me I had to stop was a sad one for me; feeling free of my body felt good. But I am attached to my body, and it depends on my soul to survive. The soul can force the body to achieve some pretty amazing feats.
It was my soul which decided to free myself from pain medicine, and despite the screams of my body, it is my soul which is in charge and helping me to survive the onslaught of withdrawal.
We are just "matter" without our souls.
answered 10 Aug '11, 12:20
Bruce Lipton has discovered the answer. to this.
I wouldn't say that the soul is a parasite. Our body is the temple of God. Our soul is an extension of God, manifest in the flesh. Our body without our soul is water and bones and flesh. Our soul attaches it's self to the cells of our bodies. It is what animates us, and allows our bodies to participate in the physical world. It is what brings life to our bodies. It is who we are, who we were and who we always will be.
there may be more than only one non-physical part of a human being,
answered 10 Aug '11, 00:50
We seek to explain the physical world that we perceive through our five senses and how it came into being and we do this by admitting that some kind of immaterial world must exist and is at work. We imagine virtual concepts that explain our physical world, by definition these virtual concepts exist and therefore possess an immaterial organ.
Your question (and the way it is asked) highlight the fundamental question that people have been asking themselves since the beginning of time:
What does it all mean?
Ultimately, meaning is something we ourselves ascribe to things and events. We do this in all sorts of ways: politics, religion, science. We call these meanings fundamental, and maybe they are. Or maybe they are just nets cast around our ideas.
There have been scientific studies done about religion that suggest that our belief in a higher power, and our belief in a soul, are evolutionary adaptations; we believe in these things because they make us more effective as people. This belief in a higher power gives rise to moral systems, which in turn makes civilization possible; it provides the glue by which we hold society together. The belief in something greater than ourselves gives us the mental confidence and stamina to venture out into the world and do significant things with our lives.
In other words, meaning is what makes things like family, culture, society, the environment, important enough to cultivate, nurture and defend.
Even our physical universe was originally just an idea in the mind of God.
the physical is dust. no non physical part meaning soul spirit you. then the physical is dust. so what are we would have been better put: what is the body with out the non physical soul spirit? because the physical body is not permanently you. so you would be nothing. and the real you is immortal permanent. and you cannot be nothing. SO EXPERIENCE AND ENJOY.
answered 12 Aug '11, 02:39
Jai and I were having a conversation about replacing the brain with a computer someday. When a person dies and needs a brain transplant and they replace it with a computer she said to me "But what does that make the person?" I said, "They could program, what you are, who you know, and what you do, it would be you."
She said "No, we are the sum total of our memories. " I said "My memories have nothing to do with me. "
Maybe this same argument could maybe be for bringing back the dead to life. It sounds wonderful to bring back loved ones, but maybe grandma without a soul would be different.
For the Religious, the spiritual, or the metaphysical person this question remains open to debate within the scope of our imaginations. Silly soulless zombies, demons in human form, extraterrestrial invaders, psychopaths, all attributed to bodies without souls. Many will just say there can be no life without a soul, claiming that when the soul leaves, the body dies. I have to wonder if the best answer might come from the atheist who would simply say look at me, I do not have a soul and I am no different than you. We will, of course, assume this person is just not aware of having a soul.
To answer the question "What are we without the non-physical/soul?" I would first want to consider the question from the souls perspective based on what I have learned and accept as valid with respect to the nature of soul entities. If I were to ask a soul that has advanced beyond the point where it does not need to incarnate, "Are you a Human being?" I strongly suspect the answer will be a clear and concise "NO", I am not a human being. It may add "I have lived many lives as a human being by being fully integrated biologically with both male and female humans. Furthermore, this union has always enhanced the life of the human, in many beneficial ways, allowing him or her to experience, feelings, thoughts, and creativity well beyond the limitations of his instincts for survival, self-preservation, self-gratification, and procreation. "So humans can live without having a soul?"
When you consider that thousands of less evolved species manage to live without a soul entity/personality biologically fused to it, does it really make sense that the planets most evolved species would suddenly become extinct for lack of a soul? Not likely. However, I very much doubt we would be anything like the humans we are today. What we would be like, how we would have progressed as a species would be an interesting idea to consider. What sort of systems, social, economic, political etc. might exist if we did not share our lives with a soul might be an interesting topic to explore.
My conclusion is that without a soul we would be alive, yet guided and driven by our natural instincts. We would be driven by our individual ego to find and succumb to our place amidst the stronger and weaker of those around us, with adjustments made for our relative clever intelligence or foolish stupidity. It is questionable as to whether we would behave according to codes of ethics and morality or even be governed by a judicial authority to protect us and secure us with certain rights. We might have remained in a tribal state dominated by violent alpha males with no recourse but to do or die.
This question would need to be more specific to really even speculate as to what we would be. Is the question about one soulless individual fitting in with a larger souled society? Is it about the entire society facing a new generation born without souls? Is it about a human civilization that never played host to soul entities or any other variation you can think of? I think the answer would vary depending on the circumstances.
answered 14 May '14, 19:23
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