Examples Include:

  1. No reverence for a higher order ie GOD, SPIRITUALITY, HEALTH etc.
  2. Shallow thinking
  3. Negative talk
  4. Sinful lifestyle
  5. Disingenious
  6. Selfish throughout
  7. Denial of truths
  8. Embracers of dogma and conventional thought

asked 10 Apr '11, 00:03

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edited 10 Apr '11, 00:40

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Which of these are universal laws of existance? They all seem more like ideas from Biblical moral laws.

(10 Apr '11, 13:14) Fairy Princess

1)Reverence is an attitude of honoring ALL life. When you put God in there - sounds like one of the ten commandments..

No, NOT universal laws...

(12 Feb '12, 00:28) ele

I agree with the essence of your question. I dont see it as framed by any religeous construct. Simply as healthy vs unhealthy.

(12 Feb '12, 04:37) helenread25 1

@helenread25 1 - actually you are right & I was wrong.

(12 Feb '12, 15:37) ele
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The one thing that came to my mind immediately is

CONFIDENCE! And a lack of guilty feelings about what they do.

When you are laser focused on a belief everything around dissolves.


answered 10 Apr '11, 00:35

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I agree with you completely!

(10 Apr '11, 01:03) LeeAnn 1

I agree when you have confidence that is laser focus, which means you are point on and you hold until you get it. I am guilty of letting doubt slip in. I like the words you gave laser focus Sam Druker

(16 Apr '11, 00:15) flowingwater

This list looks more like moral laws based on Biblical teaching. Jesus said that it rains on the just and the unjust. That means that good things happen to bad people too. Now the Law of Attraction says that you attract vibrational matches. Some people have a high vibration doing bad things. So they will attract their matches.


answered 10 Apr '11, 13:38

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Fairy Princess

The key to your question is SEEM. However they seem to prosper, organize, succeed, and violate... they only seem to from your current perspective.


answered 10 Apr '11, 07:00

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Maybe these people are not violating the law of vibration.

Perhaps when they desire something they get in close vibrational match to it.

Or to put it another way.

Perhaps when they ask they believe they receive.

Their loose talk may be only skin deep, on a deeper level they may be at a perfect vibrational match to what they desire.

Jesus taught that you receive from the Father because you believe you receive.

Source doesnt,in my view,react to what you deserve.Im very glad about this.

Ive been guilty of all of the above 8 points at various points in my life.Im still guilty of a few of them.

Maybe this gives us a clue to just how un judgemental Source is!



answered 10 Apr '11, 10:23

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Hm, so in that case why bother with being and doing good....

(12 Feb '12, 05:55) Inner Beauty

@Inner Beauty - if "being and doing good" feels like "bother", then realignment is needed :)

(12 Feb '12, 06:21) blubird two

It is the 21 universal sub laws that seems like you refering to and I do understand what you are trying to say. It seems like reguardless rather you are a good or bad person or your characther does not care about another human being that person goal, dream, focus is totally whole heartly on what they want and don't let doubt even enter. But it does seem like the person is violating all or most of the sub universal laws and most of what we call moral laws and differently bibical laws. But you are talking about the universal sub laws. It sadden and hurts me at times how what I call good people struggle and strive all of their lives and at the end of the day materialistic wise they haven't accomplish much. `You can find can find information on the 21 sub universal laws on the question I answered about What are akk of the universal laws? Sorry I have forgot how to link the question for you so you will have to look up the qustion to find my answer.


answered 16 Apr '11, 00:46

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edited 16 Apr '11, 01:08

well one might seam to have success in life! but remember this is the world of illusion! once this cycle end another will start and if he did bad stuff he will have to suffer what he did to other and learn from those lesson in is next incarnation! you are here to experiance learn and grow! there is difference between good and evil! doing good it takes more effort and takes longuer but it will last! doing evil you get everything you want right now but it does not last! so make the right choice! you reap what you sow!

also i will add what succes can he achive by being imperfect in a imperfect world does it make him perfect?


answered 13 Jun '11, 05:21

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edited 25 Jan '12, 19:55

These aren't universal laws, mostly just a list of opinions... negative talk is the only statement that's not an opinion. astill, what a person says doesn't tell you everything and sometimes tells you nothing.

Shallow thinking... the reality is you have no idea what anyone else is thinking. Someone can have complete confidence in themselves and their abilities, whether or not they "seem" that way to anyone else.

A person may feel they are not evil or selfish. Just because you perceive them that way doesn't make it true.

The real reality of it is that most people are really doing the best they can with what they've got. Just because they have different beliefs, goals, and perspectives on life doesn't make them wrong or undeserving.

And no matter how hard anyone ever wishes they could, the responsibility of someones life and experiences rest solely in their own hands. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks they should have. It doesn't matter if you think they're defying universal laws, or if you think they're mean or selfish. If they don't see it that way, then for them it isn't true and they won't live in that type of reality.

Stop worrying about others... you can have everything you want, but if you want to get there you have to stop feeling judgement or jealousy. Maybe you feel ultimately like lifes not fair. It is very fair... it can take a lot to understand, some people never let themselves see it... but it is very fair.


answered 11 Feb '12, 12:03

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@LapisLazuli ""you feel ultimately like lifes not fair. It is very fair... it can take a lot to understand, some people never let themselves see it... but it is very fair" I wish you would formulate this into a question. I'm NOT going to disagree; but one could say, how would you know? Your young, you haven't experienced life yet.. I would like to hear your answer as well as others - if you don't make a ? out of this & it hasn't been asked before, I may.

(12 Feb '12, 00:39) ele

@LapisLazuli Funny, I just made a comment on another thread with a quote, (though taken out of context) which was meant to corroborate the belief "life isn't fair - though it had a different meaning to me.

(12 Feb '12, 00:42) ele

I was going to make a question but there's already one that was asked back in 2010. I feel lifes fair because we can all approach it from any angle and have the ability to change it in any way we wish... I would say I've been through a lot even though I'm young... more than anyone else my age it seems. But I still do have a lot ahead of me, so I could change my mind.

(12 Feb '12, 01:39) LapisLazuli

@LapisLazuli - You won't. Life is what you make of it - for the most part, anyway. It's hard to explain the death of a child or abuse; if abuse is all you've known. Some of us learn from the school of hard knocks & some never learn.. Since you study philosophy as well as spiritual lit - I thought perhaps you might share some of your favorite books. I'll have to check out the ? from 2010 - maybe, someone will have to bump it back up.

(12 Feb '12, 01:46) ele

I feel like there's always a way... an opportunity, no matter how small, regardless of everything surrounding you, to change it. I feel like millions of options surround us at any given moment, but we have to open up and see it. I think its hard, it was for me. I don't feel like any circumstance defines us or affects us, unless we allow it to. I feel like this is true for everyone, if you allow yourself to believe it...

(12 Feb '12, 01:47) LapisLazuli

Lots of motivational/LOA books. Ask & it is given, Seth Speaks books, The Happiness Project, Super Rich, conversations with god, and a couple books on quantum physics... I need to look up there titles, though, I forgot the names. Lol

(12 Feb '12, 02:00) LapisLazuli

This is one of my top favorites - The Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton

(12 Feb '12, 02:02) LapisLazuli

I've looked at the Biology of Belief - haven't read it; but when I read what others were saying about it - I thought it would be something I would like. I'll have to pick it up. BTW, I edited one of my comments to you - for some, especially the ones who suffer so; life isn't fair. "There but for the grace of God, go I".

(12 Feb '12, 02:10) ele

I hope you like it :)

(12 Feb '12, 02:13) LapisLazuli

Lapis, your response is demeaning, shallow, unsympathetic, and phony. You cant honestly say that noone within your lifetime hasnt gotten under your skin and poisoned your blood with their evil, or youre not human. We are all here to resolve karmic debt, and unfortunately its a messy business. So dont pretend to be holier than thou, because everybody can see through your insulting phony bullshit.

(12 Feb '12, 04:28) helenread25 1

Ok, I want to rephrase. Your comment is very offending... I do not mean to come off that way and I definitely don't think I'm 'holier than thou.' I have my fair share of confrontations and people most definitely get to me. That doesn't mean I have a right to judge, to tell someone 'what they are.' That's no ones right, even if you believe in karma, God, etc... they all say do not judge. Please clarify to me, what exactly offended you?

(12 Feb '12, 05:56) LapisLazuli

The majority of my post is facts (you can't tell what someones thinking, outward appearances don't define someone, you can't control someone elses experiences). Do you not agree most people really do try their best? Do you feel like you have the only right answer? Or is it just you disagree & feel life is unfair? But you know, that's what karma is, right? Karmic debt makes everything fair, right? You're paying back what you've done to others, good or bad.

(12 Feb '12, 06:32) LapisLazuli

And its okay to disagree with me... but you just have to say so. I love debating, but I don't like being called names or approached like that.

(12 Feb '12, 06:38) LapisLazuli

@helenread25 1, we don't tolerate personal abuse on Inward Quest as clearly outlined in our FAQ: http://www.inwardquest.com/faq/ If it happens again, we will suspend your account.

(12 Feb '12, 15:30) Barry Allen ♦♦

@LapisLazuli - actually I already had the book and had read parts of it. The title was familiar but the author was not. Guess life got in the way.

(12 Feb '12, 15:52) ele

@ele I loved it, if you get time you should read it again. I found it really interesting :)

(12 Feb '12, 17:04) LapisLazuli

@LapisLazuli - Yes, I will. Thanks. I never saw any negative votes before, not until today. Odd, but both you & Jai received 2 negative votes today; Jai received hers on the feelings vs thought thread & you got 2 on this one. Are we allowed to have more than one account?

(12 Feb '12, 17:18) ele

Weird.. I'm not sure. I guess people have taken more personally than it was meant to be. For me, I upvote whenever I agree, or even if its just a good answer and a valid observation, even if I don't necessarily agree with it. But its alright, no big deal for me... everyones entitled to there opinion.

(12 Feb '12, 17:24) LapisLazuli

@LapisLazuli - I'm sorry - If I implied Helen had more than one account; I shouldn't have. She had "issues" with both you & Jai on different threads & you only have to click on her votes under karma history to see she down-voted both you & Jai's answers & that is her right to do so. I can't imagine anyone else having an issue with your comments here. Like I said on the other thread - negative votes peaked my curiosity. BTW, you handled the above matter with much class, my dear! Kudos!

(12 Feb '12, 17:45) ele

Oh, that's fine, I see what you're saying. Yeah, it truthfully is. I just hope no one else took it badly, I definitely don't mean it that way... I by no means think I'm perfect or smarter than anyone else... I learn things everyday. And thank you- It hurt my feelings at first but I didn't want to lash back or make it worse.

(12 Feb '12, 17:56) LapisLazuli

@LapisLazuli - I honestly don't think anyone else had any issues with your post. I think she is battling her own demons & you were any easy target to lash out at. I voted many of her posts up in the past; but the first part of her answer seemed so bitter & judgemental; I couldn't ignore it, even though I liked the last half. Again, you are wise beyond your years.. Never play tit for tat...

(12 Feb '12, 18:14) ele

I agree, thank you :-) you're very kind and insightful.. I always enjoy your comments & answers.

(12 Feb '12, 18:27) LapisLazuli

@LapisLazuli - kind, I practice; but in your case - I was simply telling you the truth. And Your Welcome!

(12 Feb '12, 18:58) ele
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Heres my philosophy. 1st of all, personal wealth and small irrelevent things that bring instant gratification, doesnt mean their doing anything correctly. If you see owning objects and being socially accepted, and being materialistic as a good life, then you are on the wrong path. Now, if you get deeper, past what you lable "success" you can ask why negative beings such as demons or whatever your religion or beliefs call it, I see it like this; we are all here to better ourselves, so after we are able to make the correct decisions and have the correct intentions in our actions, we go and help others. Even though prana doesnt run through other dissonant beings, they can still teach us. They can be examples of what not to be, and they can teach us how to get over fear, they only exist to help everything else, and since we are all one, and seperation is an illusion, they in a sense are helping their selves, just starting with different steps. Since everything is perfect, imperfection IS non-existance. If they are evil, they also have tons of personal faults, since fear and love are the only true emotions, and everything else is a sub emotion, as long as you have your thoughts right, you are fine, and are on the right path.


answered 25 Jan '12, 19:33

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Well there was a hell of a lot criticism about your question. I think that was somewhat unfair. If the people that commented are so exalted why did they have to pick on you. I understand what you are trying to say. It does SEEM unfair that others can be posibly less evolved and still be rich. I also am not to sure that they will suffer karma in the afterlife. I am however certain that you or others can change their life. For me if I want to prosper, I have to have the beliefs that support that idea.

I have been told by the more senior members on I Q to be happy and everything else will come to pass. This I how I live my life as a ideal. In truth I have made great strides and still have some to go. But I see huge difference so they, (the senior members) must have been right. Because my progress proves it. Blessings!!! And don't forget to smile a lot!!!


answered 12 Feb '12, 17:29

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edited 12 Feb '12, 17:30


I can really relate to your question because I have a coworker like this. Shes so fake, manipulative, power hungry, domineering, ambitious, pushy, opinionated, self righteous, vindictive, greedy, petty, mean, abrasive, antagonistic, etc. Shes a curse upon her own life. So even though shes intelligent and financially successful shes never really at peace. Shes always festering about some imagined threat or slight. I think it has to do with a persons maturity level. Their soul age. Because people seem to mellow as they get older. So it would seem the more lifetimes one has endured would aid in understanding and sympathy. Whereas those who are a bit younger tend towards immature reactions and superficial life strategies. Truth is to me that no matter how idealized anyones life appears from the outside, there isnt anyone who doesnt suffer. And sometimes the difficult people offer a great contrast to the helpful and truly loving people out there. Which can be helpful in cultivating appreciation and grattitude for the the blessing of their presence in my life.


answered 11 Feb '12, 00:55

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