Say I open the refrigerator. A large can of tomato juice falls out, and lands on my big toe, hurting me and causing me great angst and pain. My toenail turns blue. I limp for days.

How can anyone say I "attracted" this accident? It does not make sense, especially when I find out that the last person who put the can into the fridge had no idea what would happen...nor did anyone know that when Mom washed the floor, she pushed the fridge out and in and caused things to shift inside....So who's to blame?

This is my biggest problem with the law of attraction. Chance seems to play no part in any event. It blames everything on the person who "attracts" events...The LOA does NOT explain the child who accidentally steps on an old land-mine, and gets his legs blown does not explain the teen killed by a 48-year-old drunk driver on Prom does not explain (at least to me) the randomness of harmful events that touch all of our lives.

So, as the saying goes, "Aye, there's the rub!"

What say all of you?



asked 29 Jan '12, 14:37

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edited 30 Jan '12, 03:56

the fridge thing is mom that washed the floor. the can falled to the floor. and she was the one that move the fridge. she most have add some negativity to cause the opposite effect of what she was trying to do. and because of that negativity she did not notice what she add done.

(29 Jan '12, 23:50) white tiger

has for the drink driver and the kid at the prom they where both on the party at night. maybe that is the link between them. the negativity of the driver made him drink to much and he drived when he should have take a taxi. cause and effect.

(29 Jan '12, 23:55) white tiger

also for the fridge thing and the drunk driver what caused their negativity was it self imposse or coming from someone else?

(30 Jan '12, 00:08) white tiger
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You've asked pretty much the same question here before, and in some manner numerous times. I'm honestly pretty hesitant in using my time in giving an answer because of this...because the answer stays the same as what you got all other times you have asked the question. You already KNOW the answers of those on here who play with LoA concepts.

The first issue is - you've already decided your truth.

The LOA does NOT explain the child who accidentally steps on an old land-mine, and gets his legs blown does not explain the teen killed by a 48-year-old drunk driver on Prom does not explain (at least to me) the randomness of harmful events that touch all of our lives.

The first step is - you have to be open to the minute possibility that, MAYBE you are wrong. Until you do that, you are not teachable. There's nothing to learn, because there's nothing new to see. I know for a fact Wade has heard about "teach-ability index" and it is very important here.

Now let me put it like this - if it's TRUE that shit happens...people get tragedies that befall them through no problem of their own. Then you should logically have absolutely NO problem looking at it and considering the possibility that it might not be true. Because if it's true ultimately it will show itself to be true, correct? The truth can be examined in the greatest detail and still be shown as true. Only a LIE needs to be protected. And conversely, upon thorough examination all lies will be found to be false to the light of truth, because they will not stand. Agree?

So it behooves us all to question everything, because the truth will for sure stand when it is questioned - and the lies will be seen for what they are. So I hope you can be at least open to questioning it on a deeper level, then we can really get somewhere. But until you are willing to do that - no amount of what anyone says is going to help.

One thing I see is your consistent use of the word "blame". And I feel that is perhaps a very big sticking point for you. To accept the idea that everything someone experiences is caused by them means not only do you have to blame yourself for everything you experience, but you have to blame other innocents for tragedies that befall them. And you rightfully feel that blaming others for those tragedies that befall them is is not compassionate at all. So you resist the idea on that basis.

It would be helpful if you can find some way to uproot this feeling that you would have to blame someone if such things were "their fault", then you can explore this topic more clearly. I'll go into how you might do that later on in the post (it's going to turn out a long one, sorry <3)

But I will explain a bit of my viewpoint on this particular issue I think you have with it, keeping in mind this is just my viewpoint as of now, and is open to change - and that it should not convince you of anything, because the only one who can clarify this whole issue for you truly is yourself.

So I will logically follow through on some things as my time permits. So here's what we have in the idea that someone causes everything that happens to them. It starts with the idea that a person is a consciousness. This consciousness holds thoughts, ideas, beliefs, expectations, feelings. And these held in the consciousness are bound to come forth in the person's world. Would you agree that this is the basis of LoA ideas?

The first issue we come across is...ok, MAYBE ideas we hold in mind occur outside us. But it is a jump to then presume that EVERYTHING we experience is a result of something inside us. I'm actually going to pass over this one, because it's not exactly critical to what I'm trying to show here and would turn into a dissertation of a lot of opinions.

The critical point that comes up is, if this is so - then why do we have things such as people in poverty, people being abused by others, all these freak "accidents" and such. It seems illogical because no one in their right mind would choose to be in debt and unable to pay their bills, or to have a car crash, or be abused by a family member or partner. But people experience these all the time, right?

This apparent illogical contradiction stems from the idea that people actually choose what they experience in their life. And that is false for practically everyone. We do not actively choose. I'm sorry to say it, but in my observations it is true - people are unanimously robotic. They go through their lives with a minimum amount of awareness, and the awareness they may display is almost always subjective and shrouded by their current beliefs and feelings. And if you are not aware in your life - you can be, and WILL be, influenced by others.

I have seen this particularly vividly the last few years with my young niece. She is influenced incredibly by the smallest thing someone might do or say, especially from her mother. She then goes on to repeat these things again and again, she loves repetitive things. To the point any adult I know would be mind numbingly bored of it no matter how interesting an action or thing said it might have been initially. I can practically see her thoughts and beliefs and feelings developing in a way I was never privy to before...and things have befallen her and are going to continue to befall her through NO FAULT of her own. But through the non-questioning acceptance of everything said to her from those around her, thoughts, ideals, feelings and beliefs are now in her consciousness and will continue in her consciousness (and be out-pictured consequently for good and bad).

And it's the same, though not quite to as such a great degree by everyone else in the world - they're all very influenced. People have beliefs and thoughts and feelings from their past - they didn't choose to have them, they were practically PUSHED on them by others, and because at such an age children consider adults like gods they accept it as obviously true. People don't often go back and look at these things clearly, nor question them - and so those "truths" continue to be in their consciousness, effecting their whole lives.

So we have all these thoughts, and feelings and beliefs in our consciousness which reflect outwards. We DO have the power over them, if we were to dig deeply and look at them we COULD change our perspective on things. But as I said, we are often robotic, and these all go on below our awareness because we walk about unaware. But they're there.

So it's not actually OURS or anyone else's fault, because we are all influenced all the time. We have thoughts in our heads that are NOT ours. We have accepted them, but normally not deliberately, they were just unquestioned. It's not even those doing the influencing fault, because they themselves have unconscious habits and thoughts and unconscious reasons they push this on others that they themselves "inherited" up the line. So there is no one to blame.

Perhaps that has helped loosen up your idea that it is placing blame on anyone, or anyones fault - because it really isn't.

Ok that is all nice in theory, but it doesn't give you a practical point from which to experience and decide whether this really is true or not. I planned to say a lot more but ended up rambling a bit and this is far longer than I think appropriate. It would probably be more productive for both of us if we were to discuss something like this over a chat or something so we could go in deeper.

But for a starting step - the next time something happens that causes an emotional reaction in you. Stop and be aware, and then think, "Have I been thinking about anything recently (over the last few days, generally) that gave me the same feeling?" And see what comes up - you might be surprised. Or you might not be. There's lots more after that you can do to explore the idea further.

The point is the feeling though, it's not as Wade said rather tongue in cheek "that you fear a can of tomato juice falling onto your big toe". While you CAN manifest things with very specific images and thoughts - most things don't happen that way...because if you look into your mind (or if you could look into others minds) you'll see most people do not have very clear deliberate images of what they want, they are fuzzy more often. But the feelings are clear, and so it is easiest to go along with the feelings.

As an example, someone might have been feeling guilty about say telling a secret they ought not to have and had been worried about it the last few days. Then they open the fridge and the can falls out onto their toe, and it spills all over the floor and they then feel guilty about that (and as a side benefit, the pain they get "punishes" them like a part of them feels they should be). There are many other feelings that could be involved, and even the same person with the same situation could have a different feeling associated with it at a different time. I just ask you look and see. :)


answered 29 Jan '12, 23:30

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edited 29 Jan '12, 23:58

Love your answer and I completely agree with you... very long but I think it made a lot of sense.

(29 Jan '12, 23:47) LapisLazuli

Thank you LapisLazuli, I liked your answer also. :)

(30 Jan '12, 00:02) Liam

aint that the Truth,nice job. love and light.

(30 Jan '12, 00:37) Roy

Great answer Liam, and I am glad you had a laugh at my answer. It is good to lighten up sometimes and lift people with a bit of humor. Sometimes it seems like that is what LOA people are saying when they say, "Everything in life you have attracted." :-)

(30 Jan '12, 00:40) Wade Casaldi

"teach-ability index" Yes I tried to get her to listen to those CDs "Your Wish is Your Command." Maybe someday. :-)

(30 Jan '12, 00:47) Wade Casaldi

Thank you, Liam. I SEE what you are saying...finally! The robotic thinking thing is especially true for many people, and personally drives me crazy...I guess I am just trying to fit some really deep issues of responsibility into what I have learned abut the LOA. Thank you so much for taking the time you did to write this answer! Jai <3

(30 Jan '12, 00:47) Jaianniah

so what you are saying is that people are not responsible of them self. and of their ego and what they let in their mind? i do not agree with that. that is the virus of this world. but i agree on not judging because someone might be affect by someone else and the one doing the action is only a tool. the one doing the effect is the one that needs to take control of him self.

(30 Jan '12, 00:49) white tiger

Fantastic Answer Liam. And your last chapter regarding the feelings within and the events that give them an outlet of resolution is ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! I hope everyone will read that & get it.

(30 Jan '12, 00:56) The Traveller

@Liam - i must admit it was The Travellers comment that incited me to read your answer ... normally i never read long scripts however good they are ... congratulations on such a complete and deep analysis :)

(30 Jan '12, 01:13) blubird two

Thanks guys. :)

(01 Feb '12, 03:59) Liam

@white tiger: No, that's not quite what I'm saying. But I am saying it's not quite so clear cut as it might appear to be when someone says "you caused this". I agree with you about that being "the virus of this world"

(01 Feb '12, 04:00) Liam

@Jaianniah: You're welcome. I'm happy to have helped you see a bit clearer on this particular point :)

(01 Feb '12, 04:01) Liam
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Its not so much the words and pictures you see in your mind, its the energy you give at every moment. Think of everything as energy, because this is what it is at the most basic level. The things you see in your reality are nothing more than a picture your eyes receive and your brain interprets to form the images in front of you. It is still physically there but it does not look the same way you perceive it. That is one of the basics in quantum physics.

If everything is energy think of all the different thoughts and emotions you give off during the day... if you were having frustrated thoughts and emotions it would make perfect sense that the tomato can fell on your toe. There are probably a lot of different ways you were feeling, but ultimately you did bring that circumstance into your experience. You gave the energy that would cause it to happen, whether or not the image of a can to came to your mind at all. Its not about the words or pictures in your mind, its the feelings. The reason visualization works for some people is because when they do it they start to feel like they would if it really happened. And there it doesn't have much to do with actual thoughts or pictures just how it makes them feel.


answered 29 Jan '12, 17:55

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Good answer! But it still does not explain the bigger tragedies...and that is what bugs me. I cannot believe that a small child who steps on a mine "attracted" this with his/her thoughts...Thanks, though, and welcome! Too bad your avatar isn't blue...LOL! Jai

(29 Jan '12, 19:46) Jaianniah

No problem... thanks. And I wish it was blue lol

(29 Jan '12, 19:59) LapisLazuli

Thanks LapisLazuli, it's always nice to meet others who get it :)

(29 Jan '12, 20:46) Eddie

Thank you =)

(29 Jan '12, 20:53) LapisLazuli

you are getting there lapislazuli. some people think only of doing action with out thinking about reaction. and yes though and speaking and energy affect things.

(29 Jan '12, 23:38) white tiger

Thank you I agree white tiger

(29 Jan '12, 23:43) LapisLazuli

jai who put the mine there? on who did the mine was suppose to explose? why did the parent let the child play there if they know there is some mine? why did the goverment not remove those mine? and why did they let people go there? you see there is many things at work here. but did they use their free will responsibly?

(29 Jan '12, 23:44) white tiger

There may be many to blame for the land mine...but from what I have learned about these mines, they are left in fields unbeknownst to the people who live there...until tragedy strikes...this is what I can the child have the blame?

(30 Jan '12, 00:39) Jaianniah
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Just maybe the can of tomato juice falling on your toe stopped you from getting in your car fifteen minutes later and getting t-boned at the first intersection you came to.


answered 29 Jan '12, 17:09

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Thanks Roy, that's exactly the way I think when seemingly negative things occur in my reality. We may never know, but we can always define everything in a positive way :)

(29 Jan '12, 20:48) Eddie

A very good point, Roy!

(30 Jan '12, 00:41) Jaianniah

Awesome.. I was told once "The next time your car breaks down, don't freak out. The love of your life could be the one to stop and help you. You never know." So never be too quick to call a situation good or bad... you never know :)

(30 Jan '12, 01:06) LapisLazuli

yes it can be. lapislazuli. everything happen for a reason you just need to find it. experience and enjoy.

(30 Jan '12, 01:17) white tiger
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While there is cause and there is effect, the only blame that exists is the blame that's self-imposed through the negative thoughts and beliefs that you hold and hold on to. Why not redefine blame to be response-ability? Really embrace it and realize that anything can be defined as positive or negative, it's all to do with how you think.

You asked a question containing very similar notions in March 2011. It may be worth re-reading it and the answer I gave to you personally in great detail here.

Peace 'n' Love ♥


answered 29 Jan '12, 20:39

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I read the older question and your answer to it and I think you really hit the nail on the head with it. I loved reading it it was very detailed and just a great answer overrall

(29 Jan '12, 23:46) LapisLazuli

Thanks LL, I thoroughly enjoyed writing it and if others get something from it, it makes it all the more worthwhile ♥

(01 Feb '12, 02:38) Eddie

There is no such thing as ''in the wrong place at the wrong time''. Everything in the universe is in the right place at the right time as it is right now. Because it has a reason to be so. Everything has a reason.

And we should not, yet often do, judge the consequences of those reasons.


answered 26 Mar '12, 02:37

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Thanks CL. And if we do judge and then forgive ourselves, then we're moving along, right?

(26 Mar '12, 03:10) Eddie

well Eddie it will be done to you in the same mesure. so if possible move away from judgement and stay in the truth.

(26 Mar '12, 03:14) white tiger

@Eddie, in a sense, we are moving along, yes. However judging and then forgiving is like moving slowly on a dirty, bumpy road of your soul. While there is a highway right next to it.

Because judgment seem to create inner constraint, while forgiveness creates relief. The cycle never end, that is until the judgement and forgiveness become one. Where there is no judgement there is no need to forgive. It's said don't judge and you won't be judged. I like it more as,don't judge and you'll be happy.

(26 Mar '12, 04:32) CalonLan

Well white tiger, using modern vernacular, judgement is simply cause and effect.

(26 Mar '12, 05:36) Eddie

@CalonLan, in my view, being in a state of forgiveness is preferable to being in a state of anger, over a judgment we made of self or others. And it may be the first step towards a non-judgmental state.

Ultimately, forgiveness is unnecessary because there is no right or wrong; because there's no judge to make a judgment :)

(26 Mar '12, 05:37) Eddie

truth is the foundation. judgement is when you create a cause. and that cause will take effect. for you it can be solve more easy for someone else it might be harder, how will you change the effect that you made to someone else. will you repent and ask for forgiveness. the judge is truth Eddie. so stay in the truth and forgive and you will also be forgiven.

(26 Mar '12, 05:54) white tiger

While I appreciate your opinion white tiger, I do not agree with it. I have nothing to repent for and there is no one to repent to. Truth is always relative to one's perspective, thus, in truth, your truth may not be my truth...

(26 Mar '12, 06:16) Eddie

@Eddie, as you said it yourself. Ultimately, there is no need for either.

And both of you, you and white tiger, are talking about the same thing, just using a different interpretation of the same thing. A different perception. Even if it should not, it pleases me to see, that ultimately, all people agree, even if we seemingly disagree in our physical reality.

Just to add, the "source" is not judge. It wouldn't create a physical extension of itself, and then judge it for what it has created it.

(26 Mar '12, 06:31) CalonLan
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that is exactely it the person that started this has no idee that he started it if he would have he would not have let that happen. everything happens for a reason. you have free will and are responsible of it. so find the balence and harmony in applying your free will. experience and enjoy.


answered 29 Jan '12, 14:55

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white tiger

According to the Law of Attraction on some level you must have had a fear of a can of tomato juice falling from the refrigerator onto your big toe...

So this fear attracted the tomato juice falling onto your big toe, according to the Law of Attraction at least.


answered 29 Jan '12, 16:04

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That's an interesting viewpoint. And I'm sure that if someone actually had a strong enough fear of that, then it would happen. But you are missing the point my friend...

(29 Jan '12, 20:50) Eddie

@Wade Casaldi - the can of tomato juice is best interpreted as being a symbol of something more profound ... :)

(30 Jan '12, 00:24) blubird two

Just a bit of humor Eddie to point out when for example Joe Vitale on "The Secret" says, "Everything in your life you have attracted." If taken literally my answer would be the only right explanation. :-)

(30 Jan '12, 00:45) Wade Casaldi

Almost anything when taken literally then multiplied to an extreme will give an unusual answer. I think that's an important lesson to be learned about "balance" and "absolutes".

(30 Jan '12, 08:13) Snow
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I would estimate a very similar role to "being-in-the-right-place-at-the-right-time".

For example, I found myself walking around midnight a few nights ago, because I was feeling extremely restless. Through repeated unusual impulses I ended up routing myself through the most roundabout series of paths on a few mile hike through a mostly empty small town. Then through a series of unusual conversations with perceived strangers in the dark, I ended up discovering that this group actually contained people I had met in the past and was extremely happy to come across, and even a new individual whom I likely would not have met at all if not for this very weird evening.

I'd been looking for something, a few somethings. The universe delivered on more than one front, at the same time, through a series of absurd events. Was this just a coincidence or was it the universe showing off? I don't really care because I'm happy with the result. ;)

"The LOA does NOT explain the child who accidentally..." Well, it depends on your personal beliefs and point of view.

I'm sure you've heard the quote: "Many people ask 'Why does God allow poverty, torture, children's deaths, etc?' I'm sure God is sitting in Heaven looking at us asking the exact same question."

In my opinion this situation is no different. We are responsible for not only ourselves, but everyone around us. Since the people around us are part of our manifestations, and us theirs, we are allowing them to have power over our reality. We have the power to prevent all of the situations you are asking about, and more.

Humans are the only species we know of with the power to put an end to all of the problems that face our planet, or create more of them indefinitely. So how does the LOA explain these terrible things that happen to us and the people around us? Simple, it's what we (humans, collectively) want. Thank the global consciousness of humanity for that one.

God handed us His powers, an imagination to envision our dreams, hands to build them, friends to share them with, and an infinitely large sandbox to play in. And.. the current state of the planet is how we thank Him.


answered 30 Jan '12, 07:52

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i agree with you snow the wrong place at wrong time and right place at right time. one opposite to the other that must merge to give the complete picture. other wise you are looking at it only from one angle. and continue making the same error. Understand your darkness and it will vanish; then you will know what light is. Understand your nightmare for what it is and it will stop; then you will wake up to reality. Understand your false beliefs and they will drop;

(30 Jan '12, 14:08) white tiger

; then you will know the taste of happiness. -Anthony De Mello Due to the mind's dualistic world, as soon as I label something "good," I have simultaneously created the label "bad" for future use. -Michael Jeffreys

(30 Jan '12, 14:10) white tiger

Learn how to quiet your mind. Learn how to make your mind quiescent like a motionless lake. A motionless lake can attract, or image, reflect the sun, the stars, the moon, trees, grass. A lake that is noisy cannot reflect anything. So when you learn to quieten your mind you reflect yourself, and yourself is always harmony, always bliss, always sat-chit-ananda, always the absolute reality, always absolute oneness. That's your real self. That's who you really are. -Robert Adams

(30 Jan '12, 14:11) white tiger

Some believe in existence. Others believe nothing exists. Rare is the one who believes nothing And is never confused. -Astavakra Gita.

(30 Jan '12, 14:22) white tiger

Life is simple. Everything happens for you, not to you. Everything happens at exactly the right moment, neither too soon nor too late. You don't have to like it... it's just easier if you do. — Byron Katie

(30 Jan '12, 14:22) white tiger

Truth doesn't need to be sought because it isn't lost. Truth is everywhere at all times; never absent, never distant. -Jed McKenna

(30 Jan '12, 14:26) white tiger

Truth is freedom. Truth requires no belief, no effort. It is what is. Of course words cannot express this. But truth is freedom. -Tom Thompson

(30 Jan '12, 14:27) white tiger

We're all able to be schizophrenic by nature. If not, you may have identified with one personality as if it is you. Depending on the situation, I can be one way or another. I naturally slip from one jacket into the other. Yet throughout all personalities, the one essence of Being shines forth, always. No personality contains identity, so why attach to one set of beliefs and expressions and pretend it is you? -Bentinho Massaro

(30 Jan '12, 14:29) white tiger

Nothing is ever wrong and nothing can be wrong. It's not even wrong to believe that something is wrong. Wrong is simply not possible. -Jed McKenna

(30 Jan '12, 14:30) white tiger

Seek first to understand... there will always be time later for judgment. -Michael Jeffreys

(30 Jan '12, 14:33) white tiger

Desires are just waves in the mind. A desire is just a thing among many. I feel no urge to satisfy it, no action needs be taken on it. Freedom from desire means this: the compulsion to satisfy is absent. -Sri Nisargadatta

(30 Jan '12, 14:39) white tiger

There is no one against us in this world but ourselves. You are against you. A failure to love, embrace, and accept yourself based on not a thing flows outwards and causes conflict. Love you for being alive, accept and embrace all of you, and where is the hate now? How can you hate another now? Where can conflict arise? -Barclay Littlewood

(30 Jan '12, 14:40) white tiger

Words don't clarify reality, they clarify other words. Philosophy isn't the art of understanding life, it's the art of understanding concepts. Philosophy can help us to clarify what our concepts are, but can never touch reality. Trying to use words to clarify reality is like trying to live in a dictionary. -Ikkyu Jones

(30 Jan '12, 14:42) white tiger

You are the Awareness of this Moment. Everything that you "experience" is NOT you. You are the Nothingness that is Aware of the Everythingness. BE what you are! :) -Michael Jeffreys

(30 Jan '12, 14:49) white tiger

A thought has exactly as much power as YOU give it. -Michael Jeffreys

(30 Jan '12, 14:50) white tiger

The infinite expression of One, through our mind, is divided into individual people, moments and experiences. When you know that this is what the mind does than you can appreciate it and enjoy it. Otherwise, you end up being someone at a magic show trying to tell everyone how it's all an illusion... but you came to be a part of the illusion, so enjoy the magic. If you aren't enjoying the magic, you're missing the point. -Matt Kahn

(30 Jan '12, 14:53) white tiger
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When we ask the questions like, "Why do bad things happen to me?" Several things are happening to bring about more bad things. For one thing, when we ask questions, we get answers. It also shows us that our vibration is attracting things that we think are bad. We also find what we look for. Here is a selective attention test that demonstrates this point.

So I have learned to ask questions that will give me the answers that I want and to look for what I want to find instead of what I don't want. Why do I attract such good things? Why am I so happy?


answered 25 Mar '12, 23:53

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Fairy Princess

Thanks FP :)

(26 Mar '12, 03:07) Eddie
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