I'm not exactly sure how to phrase this particular question, so please pardon me, but I am sure you all will get what I am trying to ask anyway.
Let's just use alcohol as an example; In Conversations with Gods (Book I) By Neale Donald Walsh, there is a particular passage that goes like this:
So the question is why would "God" (or Source, Infinite Intelligence or whatever you call it) would say that feeding certain types of substances such as alcohol or drugs are a form of abusing our body, and by doing so it actually means that we have no will to live?
Why would these substances even be able to harm our bodies in the first place if they were created by us and that we have the freedom to do what we want?
I've never read these books (to my shame) but that kind of interaction reminds me very much of the interactions I get from my own channeling experiences.
I also often get quite jokey and witty responses, along the lines of that "So who said jesus was perfect?" comment :)
Given the popularity of these "Conversations with God" books, I'm sure Mr Walsch is in touch with some higher consciousness that resonates with many people, but to label it as "God" (with all the accompanying emotional baggage that the word carries for many) seems like a rather bold move.
I would simply classify this interaction as the opinion of some non-physical being that he's communicating with.
They all have their own opinions and personalities, just like us. After all, we are also non-physical beings but just choosing to project an aspect of ourselves into "physical reality" to experience it, rather than watch it from "outside" in a more detached manner.
But it is important to remember (and this simple idea has taken me years to internalize) that unless you are actually physically experiencing this physical reality for yourself, your opinion is ultimately worth the same as the opinion of anyone who "teaches, but doesn't do" :)
So I would treat those opinions in the same way. If you find them to be of value to you, listen to them. If you think it's nonsense, just ignore it as you would any other physical person's opinion that you disagree with.
It's strange that you'd ask this question, from this book and also an excerpt related to alcohol as dialogue:)
This book came into my life when I was battling alcohol. It was given to me... strange, strange and beautiful coincidence:)
I have read all three original ones from Mr. Walsh. It was my first jump into philosophy/spirituality and that too at a crucial time. I learned a lot from it. It served its purpose at that time:)
I approached it (the book) the same way Mr. Walsh approached God/Entity. Mr. Walsh (at that time) was my link to that entity. There are lots of contradiction in those conversations, but they're his conversations so I took what I wanted to from it and that's it.
Of course, It was a one-way conversation as I was the only one doing the asking:) But, over-all it did leave a positive impression on me.
Our physical body is just that, a physical body, so the laws of physics apply to them. It's the limitation of that physical form like any other physical form.
If we do anything in excess, even the good stuff- like eating- our physical form is going to break down. The entity does not stop one from doing this excessive indulgence because we have free will, but it is us who see it bad as we attach value to our physical life in terms of length of time spent in this form.
Alcohol consumption is nod bad, excessive alcohol consumption is bad. Going to space in a space shuttle is not bad in itself (that relates to what you are saying about 'we created it'), but going there and planting a bomb would be considered bad:) Fire was not discovered to set forests on fire, but some people do it. That's the message I got from that conversation.
It's not from the point of view of being judgmental, it is from point of view of being choosing what's right for the physical form Or not! A road sign if you will, Free will, no judgement!
At least that's what I got from it.
BTW, they say, this book comes into the lives of people when they most need it:) I dunno, that's what they say:)
In the mid nineties, I studied many things that were new to me after what some people call a "nervous breakdown". Shatki Gawain's Living in the Light, The Opening of The Third Eye by Douglas Baker, a wonderful book about the occult wisdom within the Bible called The Hidden Wisdom of the Holy Bible by Geoffrey Hodson. Real eye opener, that one. Edgar Cayce, Kahuna Magic, The Mystery of the Crosses, I think one title was, a very interesting account of the silver crosses concealed within "rocks" and buried in the Southern California hills long before Christians got here... Many others.
I read Openning to Channel by Sanaya Roman and Duane Parker, channeling Orin and DaBen, and I channeled an entity called Archer. I used to see flashes of brilliant neon blue light and figures standing around me in a half circle. Someone used to come and sit on the end of my bed for a little while every night as I went to sleep.
Around this time I began a written conversation with Jesus. He was very warm and kind, often very amusing. He was the one who told me to step into my pain, he said there was a surprise waiting for me there. He was right, of course, but that's a long story.
He also told me: "The saying "you are what you eat" is more true than you realize. So right about now, you are a pile of BBQ Corn Nuts floating in a puddle of Diet Coke. :)" Funny guy. I loved him.
The book Conversations With God had not been published yet. About a year or so later, I read that book and was surprised to find that the author was probably having these conversations at right about the same time I was, and in the same written, conversational, friendly manner.
I've never told anyone at all about these exeriences. Always figured no one would believe me. I have often thought we channeled the same entity. We got some of the same phrases, even. Same info. He explained why the universe was created, and that I am God. Trying to separate us was like trying to separate the sun from light, or separating water from wet.
Just thought I'd share.
@White Tiger beat me to it. Jesus said, "It is not what goes into your mouth that matters so much as what comes out of your mouth."
I haven't read, "Conversations With God", but if this is an example of NDW's philosophy, I don't see the value, whether "God" (or Source or whatever or NDW) actually said that.
Oh, come on now. Do the book(s) get more interesting than that?
answered 17 Jul '12, 12:09
It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person."
But if you know the beginning, you will know the end. You have free will use it wisely.
Experience and enjoy.
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