Unlike us enlightened folks here on IQ:)...Most people, in general, globally, think of money as this:

"Money is like a sixth sense - and you can't make use of the other five without it." - William Somerset Maugham

But when asked, those same people will answer something on the lines of this:

"For I don't care too much for money, for money can't buy me love." - The Beatles

Yes, it is true what Beatles were saying and all of us (in general) know it to be true, however...

And this is a big however...

Every time there is a discussion (and not only on IQ) on money, the argument is always something like this:

  • but seeking love is better
  • I much rather raise a loving family
  • money is the root cause of all evil
  • all wealthy, rich people are crooks
  • Money is not abundance (yes, I know that)
  • You can't find God in money
  • Money will not bring you happiness (know that as well)

All of the above is true, I know that, but money also has its place in our civilization. An important place. I also know that this is all man-made and that's not what I am saying here. I am saying, now that it is part of our civilization (whether god-made or man-made) why be so shameful about it?

So, I am specifically talking about money and not whether someone gets happy, satisfied, contentment or fulfillment via it. Then why would anyone want money? Because, maybe, arguably, its generally believed that money builds confidence, self-respect and a sense of achievement. Even if it is mis-guided and short-lived, as many will argue, so are many other non-material things like love, happiness etc., so what? Does it make it evil?**

In fact, in our physical World, and for adults, if there is one thing without which one cannot survive (their entire lifetime that is) it is money! Yes, some people have and will, but for most, average, normal adults, its not a possibility

Why are we constantly justifying 'seeking money'? Why do we get defensive when we say we are seeking money? **Why do we assume that by 'seeking money, we are trying to replace other important stuff like love, happiness etc.'? (I know we can't, I am asking, why someone assumes that because you make lots of money, you must be ignoring all that other stuff. A general consensus, it seems as perceived by others. At least the first impression before they get to know you)

** Why can't we try to make more money and still raise a happy family, be happy, be loving? Why (in our minds) is there so much conflict about these two aspects? Where does this conflict comes from?

Why does it have to be either/or case?

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"Because, its a known fact that money builds confidence, self-respect and a sense of achievement." I humbly suggest that you have this backwards.

(21 Jul '12, 07:18) Dollar Bill

and so I have edited the same observation so it does not come across as definitive:)

(21 Jul '12, 07:26) Xoomaville

Actually you should read it backwards.Sense of achievement, self respect and confidence "builds" money.And here we hit the spot.If someone has money, they prolly have sense of achivement, self-respect and confidence people that don't have these hate those who have them for their own lack of these qualities. Instead of improving themselves,they disapprove those around them.To bring them to the same level only so they can feel better about themselves. Insecurities and fears,make ppl hate. ;)

(21 Jul '12, 11:53) CalonLan

the shame is that we created money and now some of us are dependent of it. they would kill,harm,lie and do all kind of evil works; for money. now you know the shame and you can see the inequite. money as no value except the value you give it. to have or not to have is not the problem. to become slave of our own creation is the problem. money has created iniquity in this world. who is your master God or money? it is all writen in your book. money is another creation of men.

(21 Jul '12, 12:45) white tiger

Money is a tool, nothing else. Like any tool it can harm or build or lie dormant, but it is NOT the end result. Do we buy the paintings of the masters, or their paintbrushes?

(22 Jul '12, 06:16) Dollar Bill
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Your beliefs govern your expectations. Your expectations allow your manifestations to come into your physical reality. If your expectation is that you must work hard for your money, you will!

And the Genie says, "Your wish is my command."

The bottom line is that the obsessive LOVE of almost anything, taken to extremes can easily turn evil. IF you love money more than God, more than your family, your health, your relationships, you have evil.

One of my older spaniels is sometimes incontinent. He peed on my 60 year old oriental carpet. He has done this several times. When he has to go, he has to go! Do I love him more than the carpet? Yes! I clean the carpet without anger and try to make him comfortable.

The rich may seem crooked from the viewpoint of the average hardworking person. But the majority I know are very good people. They seem float above the struggle that is the existence of the average hardworking person.

This hardworking person feels himself to be honest, and caring, and loving, and responsible. "Nobody could work harder than I do! But I am not rich! I SHOULD be better rewarded for that hard work and morality. It must be that the rich do things that are outside my moral code. So I will have nothing to do with them, or money!"

My answer to your question is: The hardworking person thinks the way the rich get money is evil. They must be doing things outside my Moral Code! Things outside my Moral Code are, by definition, evil!

"I am poor, but honest!"

And the Genie says, "Your wish is my command."

I once thought that it took struggle to make money, but I realized that struggle really prevented me from hearing Inspiration, from experiencing Joy -- and those things, especially hearing Inspiration, make you rich.

Rich people think differently, have different expectations. If someone decries them for being rich, and negatively judges the ways they got rich, they will never experience wealth, whether you determine wealth as money, prestige, power, living the good life.

And the Genie says, "Your wish is my command."

And from the outside it may seem to the average hardworking Joe, that the rich live a certain easygoing lifestyle, that they do not struggle very hard, that things just float to them and that they can have that lifestyle because they are rich.

No, they had that lifestyle first and the money flowed to them. They were attracted to the right place, at the right time, their minds were not clouded with struggle. they heard the Voice of Inspiration and they made a very small move.

Money is not evil unless you have the belief system that the rich are doing something evil to have money. And that you would have to do evil to have money. I don't think that very many people get up in the morning and say, "I want to be really evil today!"

Now if you find joy in hard work, that is fine. If your goal is to exert effort to climb the mountain to see the top, that is fine. But don't cuss me when I arrive in a helicopter!

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answered 21 Jul '12, 07:15

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@Dollar Bill, great answer. One of the best explanation as to why people would see money as evil/bad. Thank you for taking time to post this:)

(21 Jul '12, 07:30) Xoomaville
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Air conditioned helicopter, don't forget! :-)

I love this answer, it reminds me of my teacher Mark Hamilton from the S.O.S.

(21 Jul '12, 20:49) Wade Casaldi
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Aaah your telling of the oriental carpet and "dog love" won my vote :-) and yes tis interesting how they ( the rich ) are somehow perceived as evil .Hmmm, in stating that seems like I am excluding myself , need to re-evaluate that thought . I liked how Bashar said the definition of Abundance was "the ability to do what you want , when you want to" so simple :-)

(21 Jul '12, 21:09) Starlight
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is money serving you? or are you serving it? "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.

http://bible.cc/matthew/6-24.htm

that is only another Golden calf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf

all of this is writen in your book.

Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him.

http://bible.cc/mark/12-17.htm

give to Ceasar what is Ceasar and to God what is God.

who are you worshipping in spirit and truth?

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@white tiger, what you say serves as a great reminder. One must consciously be aware of it, thanks for the insight:)

(22 Jul '12, 00:33) Xoomaville
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@white tiger - very well said! Man cannot serve two masters!

(22 Jul '12, 06:11) Dollar Bill

I think because many have sought wealth trying to find happiness. It's like those "the lottery ruined my life stories". They say "i wanna be happy", but instead of being happy they start looking for a relationship or more wealth. They look for something to make them happy. "If I just have this everything will be perfect.... if I just have this and this and this" It goes on and on.

But money can't give you happiness... or confidence... or love... it doesn't give you anything. It's paper and coins... numbers. It's not evil or important... it's just something people feel is necessary.

That's how I see it. I know some say their money gives them confidence or their family gives them love, but I don't think they really "give" us those things. At some point we allowed ourselves to feel that love or confidence... we didn't need to find anything outside of us.

So, when people realize money itself won't make you happy... they sometimes see money as manipulative and evil. But it isn't, it's just a thing.

So they say "Don't chase money! It's a letdown, it made things worse!" So they try to find love or a family. They look to therapists and self help gurus, or religion.

But it isn't about being poor or rich or being in love. Having a family or following a religion... those are things that are part of the experience. We enjoy them, but they are not what makes us happy.

If someone wants happiness, or maybe confidence, they should find ways to be that, instead of expecting something outside of them to "give" it to them. The universe never gave you anything you feel... it just gives you things that agree with your vibrations.

I read an article that had something about emotions and it said "It is inaccurate to say "He hurt my feelings" It is more accurate to say "He said this and I didn't like it." We are the ones that choose what thoughts we think and what we allow to hurt us. No one can force you to feel pain. Nothing forces you to feel anything, not even joy or love.

I believe many just think money will solve everything and make them happy... then become upset when it doesn't, so they conclude money is evil/manipulating/limiting/selfish/waste etc.

To be happy you must be happy!

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answered 21 Jul '12, 23:24

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@LapisLazuli, wow, awesome answer:) All the answers here bring so much clarity. I feel there is too much focus on money (or lack) in general in human civilization and personally, I am neutral about it, have been on both sides of the fence and now I just sit on it:)

"To be happy you must be happy!" love this quote, thanks:)

(22 Jul '12, 00:32) Xoomaville

lapislazuli i agree with this: they should find ways to be that, instead of expecting something outside of them to "give" it to them. that is the problem many are aware of the outside the flesh this world. but very fee are aware of the inside born of water and born of spirit the narrow gate(the son of men must be lifted up) and God(above). that is why they are spiritually discern. the flesh is flesh and the spirit is spirit.

(22 Jul '12, 02:32) white tiger

Thank you! I've experienced both ends as well. The biggest thing I noticed was I was no happier living in "wealth" than "poverty." I had the same "problems" they just took a different shape.

That's what I've learned from experiencing both sides of money and love... it doesn't matter how much you have, you have to be happy if you wanna be happy. All the adoration and money in the world won't make you feel it, you have to feel it.

(25 Jul '12, 00:03) LapisLazuli
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You can operate in your mind and base your believes ONLY with what you know. Which means, what you learn in life, school, family, environment. If you have ability to doubt everything and find opposite of what is told to you, then you have an upper hand as you can base your beliefs on what you don't know but assume to know as well.

And it's funny to try to imagine and track certain sayings back to their origin. For example - "you must work hard to earn money". Today you heard from your dad, that you must work hard to earn money. Your dad lived with this belief all his life because that's what his dad did and dad of his dad did too. And reality seemed to confirm it quite well. All of them went to work and had to work hard to earn money. They simply believed what they saw. Now if this is all you see and know, then you will hold this belief too.

It would take another person, who's job is fun and easy to enter your life and show it to you. And often these 'bright' examples DO enter our lives, but we ignore them, because they come in form of fairy tales, they seem so 'out of this world' (actually out of OUR reality) that we dismiss them. If you believe you could find LOVE like The Little Mermaid Ariel did, you wouldn't go desperately looking for just someone on a dating website.

So in short, our beliefs are also are limitations. They are based upon our definitions of things. Which we draw out of the information we have on those things. Which is dependent on our level of IGNORANCE to seek knowledge. Which comes down to our insecurities and fears.

It's like when you are walking on the ground, you are not usually afraid of falling and breaking your leg. But should you get higher above the ground, your fear of falling and breaking your legs will become bigger, and as your fear raises, your ignorance starts to decrease and you will seek preventing measures.

If a person half your size were to attack you with bare hands, you might assume you can easily defend yourself and would IGNORE his attempt. YOUR FEAR would be 0, YOUR IGNORANCE 100. However if he pulls out a gun, YOUR FEAR jumps to 100 and your IGNORANCE goes down to 0. And you'll be open minded like never before :-)

Now, what I believe is the important thing to understand, is that FEAR in a way is a doorway to better life. Because the more you fear something, the less you will ignore it. Thus becoming open minded, thus educating yourself, thus finding ways to prevent your fear from happening, thus improving your own life in the process.

So coming back from our round trip back to the topic of why are people hating on money. Because they are ignorant. From now on it would get hard to pin point why they are ignorant, since it would be individual for everyone and directly correlated with many of their insecurities from various areas of life.

I mean to say, it's hard to list all the reasons why people are hating on money or being negative towards them, or see it as a bad thing to have in excess, but they all share one thing - ignorance.

We should not be ignorant of our fears, but fear our ignorance.

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answered 21 Jul '12, 05:59

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@CanlonLan - I usually agree with you, but today when I hear you say, "FEAR in a way is a doorway to better life. Because the more you fear something, the less you will ignore it." I must be missing something here. The more you fear (False Evidence Appearing Real), the more you attract it.

The more you rely on the Voice within, the more you realize your power to control your reality. The more you realize there is nothing to fear.

(21 Jul '12, 07:26) Dollar Bill

You might ask, "Would you fear a man looking for you with a high powered rifle?" No, because I would not be where he is looking.

(21 Jul '12, 07:27) Dollar Bill

@CalonLan, Interesting and definitely a different point of view. I am gonna read it couple of times before I comment on it:)

(21 Jul '12, 07:28) Xoomaville

@Dollar Bill, I wasn't relating my answer to law of attraction here. 'Fear being doorway to better life', in other words, fear is an indication of a weak area in your life. (We fear our weaknesses. Has anyone ever feared their strong side?) Over coming fear, is an experience which makes you stronger. Your weakness turns into your strength. Fears are tremendous opportunity in disguise. Fears rise from unknown. And they may go up in intensity, paradoxically, it's at the peak of a fear when...

(21 Jul '12, 11:22) CalonLan

...it stops to scare you and starts to encourage you instead. If someone is looking for you with a high powered rifle, your fear will make you run and hide. But it is the moment you are chased into a corner, the tremendous energy of fear transform into a courage. You stop running and hiding, and will fight back instead.

"When you stop being afraid of death, you begin to really live." This applies to anything you may fear.

Fears are great gift to our lives if you're not afraid of them...

(21 Jul '12, 11:31) CalonLan

...if we're not afraid to see them through, since it's when we see them through we display our weakness in that particular area,...we don't want to see we're weak, we don't want others to see it either. So we hide our weaknesses, ignore them, and just pray they never see the daylight. It's that 'ever-searching-for-security' mentality people have. There's no securities, only opportunities. Fear is a great opportunity to go through years worth of experience in matter of days sometimes.

(21 Jul '12, 11:35) CalonLan

And while yes, you may manifest being in a different place other than the madman with a gun, nothing changes about the fact you'd still be afraid of him. If you overcome such fear. You'll overcome it for the rest of your life. You'll never let the fear of such situation hold you back ever again from making decisions which you think would be right...one day he stopped being afraid of people pointing gun at him, the other day he saved five people from terrorists See what I mean? :)

(21 Jul '12, 11:44) CalonLan

And as Buddha said - The secret of life is to live with no fear.

(21 Jul '12, 11:46) CalonLan

@CanlonLan - Did you know the Hebrew Biblical word for "fear" is also translated "respect"? "Fear the Lord" = "Respect the Lord." I don't fear a tiger. I respect him. But I am not getting into his cage to face my fear.

You have your belief system and I have mine. In mine, the Law Of Attraction very much works in this area, as in all other areas. What you focus upon grows. Focus the Spotlight of your Attention on fear, fear grows. Kill the Black Prince and you create more Black Princes.

(21 Jul '12, 12:13) Dollar Bill

My wife fears bridges, especially suspension hanging bridges that move when you walk on them. We were at Rock City. There was a suspension bridge. She was terrified to cross it. I held her hands gently and with her cooperation walked very slowly across the bridge backwards. I had her focus on me. On my strength. "Look me in the face and walk." She did. She looked at me. She had no fear, She knew that I was there for her and I would protect her.

(21 Jul '12, 12:22) Dollar Bill

When I have a fear, I look Source in the Face. Source walks backwards holding my hands. I have no fear. There is nothing to overcome. I feel no tension, not even euphoria, just a warm glow.

False

Evidence

Appearing (can we underline APPEARING?

Real

(21 Jul '12, 12:26) Dollar Bill
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My answer is very simple..

Because money was never really needed in this world in the very first place.

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answered 21 Jul '12, 11:22

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@kakaboo, I wholeheartedly agree. I sometimes (while on bed, before sleeping) fantasize about such a World. I know, some people dream of men/women or of having money:) but, I find the possibilities in such a World endless...it helps me sleep with a smile on my face:) Thanks for the answer:)

(22 Jul '12, 00:36) Xoomaville

@Xoomaville - Ouch. Suddenly I feel so cheap.

(23 Jul '12, 11:49) Grace

@Grace, oh so Grace decides grace us again???:) the disappearing woman:)) j/k, hope all is well!

(23 Jul '12, 12:59) Xoomaville

@Xoomaville - I would be here if I could, believe me. I miss y'all something awful. I'm so used to having all these conversations whenever I want. :(

(23 Jul '12, 13:33) Grace

Desire for new laptop is in The Box as we speak...:)

(23 Jul '12, 14:07) Grace
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You know The Beatles sang "I don't care too much for money because money can't buy me love." At the time they sang that they were probably one of the highest paid music groups around. If they really believed that about money they would have given all their money to some charity or something and lived poor.

We know that didn't happen so apparently they did care a lot about money. Don't let romantic idealism influence you or you will be sad, poor and broke. Look at the real picture of did they really feel they don't care too much for money? Look at the real picture are you happier when your bills are paid and you have no worries or when you have no money and everyone is after you to pay them what you owe them from borrowing?

The highly spiritual romantic idealism is, I don't need money, it can't buy me love, it can't bring me enlightenment, it is not as beautiful as a sunrise etc.. etc..

But how about when you are hungry and can't afford a sandwich? How about when you are hot and can't afford air-conditioning? How about when you are cold and can't afford heat? How about when you are wet and can't afford a roof over your head? Do you care about money then?

The truth is the more wealthy we become the more good we can do in the world. I can volunteer my time to work in a dog shelter that is near closing down when I am poor or I could donate a fortune to not only keep it open but expand it if I am rich. Then I could get it recognized and successful with advertisements so it could stand on it's own.

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answered 21 Jul '12, 21:06

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@Wadw Casaldi, right on the money:) "...The truth is the more wealthy we become the more good we can do in the world. I believe in the same, of course, no one is saying don't be loving, happy, charitable etc. in the process.

(22 Jul '12, 00:18) Xoomaville
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@Wade Casaldi - I feel just the same as you do on this, right down to the dog shelter. Couldn't have said it better myself.

(24 Jul '12, 15:53) Grace

Thanks Xoomaville and Grace I am glad to help. :-)

(25 Jul '12, 00:22) Wade Casaldi
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