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Every so often I stumble across mentionings of Abraham-Hicks publications taking steps to protect their copyrights and this puzzles me. It feels like it is going against what Abraham themselves suggest doing, as in the first video below:
But here is a snippet of what Abraham said about copyright in the first seminar after Jerry's death:
Regarding the second snippet, I remember listening to this entire question soon after the seminar was released around last December and feeling uncomfortable about the encounter - the first time I've felt uncomfortable about listening to Abraham. Even though the audience laughed, I just didn't sense the usual feeling of "fun" from Abraham.
It was the same seminar where Esther had to break off from channeling Abraham for a few moments because she was still experiencing feelings of upset over Jerry's death.
I'm currently several months behind on listening to new Abraham recordings (which, in itself, is interesting to me also) so I'll probably have to gradually work my way through them all to check if there is actually any noticeable difference between 'Jerry-alive' Abraham and 'post-Jerry' Abraham, or whether I'm just imagining differences that are not actually there :)
But I just thought I would ask...
Has anyone here noticed anything different or unusual about Abraham following Jerry's death?
@Stingray - I believe that channeled messages are always subject to the filter of the host, and it probably shows up in many ways that we wouldn't notice unless we knew the details of that person's life.
I haven't seen anything directly contradictory, but yes, now that you mention it, I did notice that they seem a little less lighthearted.
I can't watch video clips at the moment, but just wanted to chip in my two cents on the overall mood, because I don't think you are imagining things that are not there. I think that it is not perfect, but that it's perfectly natural. :)
answered 08 Aug '12, 13:28
I've been listening to Bashar material more than anything else lately. Along with other various channeled information through books, recordings, and videos.
I was listening to a youtube channel subscription of Abraham material though pretty consistently for the majority of the year until the routine uploads slowed down and I got into other things. For the most part though, I can't say that I see any drastic change in the Abraham message. I've never had the urge to stop listening to a particular segment or didn't have a message resonate with me at a certain level.
I do believe though, that you have to consider the human element of this (similar to what Grace mentioned already) and realize that there can be fluctuations coming from Esther herself. She did recently lose her husband. Jerry isn't around in the same physical way anymore and that could be the biggest cause for people to think that something has changed.
The pure flow of the message could possibly just not be as clear from some of the stress Esther herself has been through. Just because she channels a very intelligent and high being of wisdom, doesn't mean she doesn't have some slight resistance in her human-ness.
If there is a slight change, it could be something to do with the particular timing of our planet. We are more than halfway through 2012 and there could be some expansion going on that we are not quite used to yet.
What is Bashar's 4th law of creation? "Change is the only constant, except for the first 3 laws."
I haven't personally seen a big enough change in the material or message to say there is a huge difference between physical Jerry and (croaked) non physical Jerry material. I do think it is just a shift in perspective that we may or may not be smoothly vibrationaly aligned with. When a huge part of something in our own lives change, things really can't ever be like old way of doing things again. I still get great benefit out of the message no matter what small change has or hasn't occurred.
This video is the first one I watched in at least a few weeks, and I thought it was very powerful...Preparing For What You Want
As for the copyright issue. I think once again the human element comes into play. We human beings live an existence of valuing and needing money to live on and survive. This is how these individuals make a living. The whole copyright situation has really never bothered me that much. I know I will find the information I need one way or another no matter what. It is their business, and in my opinion, they can do whatever they please. Similar to if I had a business, I can do what I please with my material.
I appreciate the knowing that anything I need to understand will work its way to me in due time. I try not to worry about what's going wrong so much anymore. I did that every single day for 27 years and it led to misery. I just focus on what is going right and feeling good right now:)
There has been a change of vibration since in the last year or so, this is true and I felt it, though I can't know why. The message has remained the same. I find the information to be beneficial to me (to say the least) on an intuitive level. So I'm not interested in what Esther does in her own life, Abraham Hicks publications' actions, or any other gossip.
Regarding Stingray's video link, this is an interpretation of what Abraham is saying. I have no doubt that if asked directly and clearly by someone in the hot seat about the subject, the same answer about copyrights would be given.
answered 10 Aug '12, 05:57
Well, personally I would have thought you would possibly have to be the last person to ask this type of question, Stingray. :)
Ever since Jerry passed away and Abraham Hicks publication started clamping down hard on copyright issues, I never felt they were the same again. If you watch some of their DVDs seminars now and compare them, you can see a distinct drop in the number of people.. and also it would seem like more and more people are delving away from Abraham's teachings to other forms of teachers.
The most distinct and special case would have to be the July 28 seminar in San Franciso where there was a "hat guy" which caused a bit of uproar in the Abraham-Hicks community. There was a guy with a hat who insisted that he did not want to take off his cap because he did not want to be filmed but Esther kept insisting him to take off his cap which I don't know why either. Furthermore I feel that most of the times Esther don't even seem to answer the question which the hot-seater is asking but just going around in circles.
As for Grace mentioning about the "daily doses or fixes" of Abraham, that is also one particular problem which I am concerned about. Even though what Abraham says does make you feel good, I personally don't think it is always that great to have to depend on what other people say in order to make you feel good.. it's sort of like taking drugs. If anyone have had any experience in MLM (note: this has nothing to do with Jerry's background in Amway), you would also have noticed that most people in MLM sell dreams and use the feel good factor to make you stay in the company itself.
I don't really know what to make out of all this :)
answered 09 Aug '12, 03:18
I thought to ask this question a few months ago but never did. I did notice some change that made me a bit uncomfortable towards the beginning of the year. I could sense some harshness and irritation from Abe/Esther. This was in the earlier seminars in the year. Recently I haven't noticed the same uncomfortable feeling. I've only been listening to AH material for the past 2-3 years but I did notice something. Just couldn't put my finger on it.
I'm thankful for IQ, the manifesting experiments, old recording of AH and "Ask and it is Given". I'm looking to these as my primariy sources these days, along with my own guidance.
answered 09 Aug '12, 11:15
@ Stingray. This is my first post. Esther is, after all, a human channel, who has had a lot on her plate the last year. It stands to reason her personal emotional process (and therefore her channel for Abraham) would be affected by Jerry's transition. I went through a loss in 2001 that was "big" for me in the same way, I'm glad people did not shape their long term perceptions of me on the first six months of that process (or first year, :) ) I have noticed some shifting myself, but I don't think it's a bad thing. Personally, I loved the Hat Guy interaction- I thought it was riveting. A lot of teachers would have allowed the staff to remove them (as it appeared might happen) but she pressed on. And I was very satisfied with her response, personally. And the shift to the grid terminology has really helped me a great deal, things have just "clicked" in a fresh way for me. In fact It is the material from May onward in particular that seems to have sparked new directions for me. Since the "Hat Guy", there have been some really fun hot seats, especially the guy who asked about sex, and the woman who saw people spitting everywhere she looked. I loved Abraham's responses to both questions. I can accept Esther where she is at (and has been the last year), and choose to focus on the love and compassion that is still demonstrated. She also recently did a segment on loving the process of loving. I love loving Abraham Hicks, and I am pleased to say it is easier than in some situations in my life. Thank you for this stimulating thread. :)
answered 22 Aug '12, 13:15
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