"Take it as far as you can"
I've been staring at this phrase for weeks, if not months, and since I get the impression we seem to have a number of Bashar fans on IQ these days, I thought I would ask you guy/gals what you think...
This question is about Bashar's excitement-based time management approach as explained in:
Here is my transcription of that video:
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I have been trying for a while now to develop a slick time/life management system that would be "excitement-driven" based on Bashar's principles. I've previously shared some thoughts in How can I become more disciplined and consistent in whatever I do? but I'm still trying to improve on the ideas there.
The main stumbling block for me at the moment is...
What does the phrase "Take it as far as you can" really mean?
This is what I have been assuming it means - that would be an Abraham-based approach - but it has implications for how many times you have to reselect existing tasks from a list...you can spend a lot of time in thinking what the next task should be, especially with a long task list.
But a few weeks ago, I had a thought that maybe Bashar actually means something else...I've been wondering instead if he actually means that since you chose that task while in an excited state, you now keep going and going with that task until you genuinely run out of things to do regarding it, even if you no longer feel like working on it.
In other words, the initial "state of being" of excitement you were in when you chose it justifies continuing to work on it, no matter what, until you simply run out of viable things to do regarding it.
That would certainly minimize task selection time but I'm not sure about the resistance aspect of it.
So what do you think that Bashar's phrase "Take it as far as you can" really means?
EDIT FOR CLARIFICATION
Thanks for all the answers so far. I get what you are all saying about keeping going until the excitement runs out but at what point are you going to switch tasks? ...which I think is what my question is really driving at, even though I've probably expressed it badly.
For example, let's say my greatest excitement is doing my taxes instead of going for a walk.
At some point during doing my taxes, I'm pretty sure that my excitement level of doing them is going to dip below the excitement level of going for a walk. Unless I keep monitoring my excitement level and keep comparing it to the other tasks available, I'm not going to know when to make that switch.
Now if I keep going until I definitely have no excitement left about doing my taxes before re-examining the task list then I may be going too far with it. Clearly commonsense, and the wish to avoid paralysis by analysis, dictates not to worry and just wait until the excitement runs out before resampling the existing task list.
But I'm trying to systematize this idea and since continuous resampling of the task list is not a workable option, but waiting until the point of zero excitement may not be the shortest vibrational route either because there will exist more exciting tasks at some point, I guess I'm trying to figure out if there is any kind of switchover signal available.
Probably the best I can think of at the moment is an intuitive urging to do something else more exciting instead.
Another option might be to wait until your attention starts wandering regarding the task you are working on, and use that as a signal to let your wandering attention scan the task list for anything more exciting to do.
Hope this clarifies what lies behind my question a bit more. Obviously, in asking the question and getting some answers, I've realized that the question I thought I was asking was not the question I actually asked :)
I'll try to focus more on your edited version of the question and answer in the best way I can. I have been hearing this phrase from Bashar a lot recently and will try to share my thought process of it.
Below is a quick diagram I did in paint to express what I think it means to "Take it as far as you can."
Please excuse a few misspellings and the quick and simple coloring book concept I went with.
To me it seemed a spiderweb would be the best way to express my idea. The web has many different blocks of webbing which go in all directions but are actually connected at the strongest point which is the middle.
The Red Arrow - This is my concept of our zero point of awareness in the vortex, joy, happiness, excitement, etc. This is the point that holds all the things that we love to do in our lives. This is the point of who we are and the outer webbing is just an extension of other forms of excitement.
The Green Arrow - Each triangular block of webbing is a different form of excitement. Since the vibration of pure excitement is similar in everything you love to do, Bashar is saying that we need to follow these blocks for as long as that exact zero point of joy is maintained until you hit the threshold of that joy frequency.
The Orange Arrow - The orange arrow is the threshold of that high peak vibrating frequency. The end of the web is the same as the center of the web. Taking it as far as you can in my opinion means to take that exact same frequency, which is the same as the whole, and maintain it until you get to the threshold point of your current excitement.
The Purple Arrow - This a the transfer example of taking it as far as you can. The idea is to maintain the frequency in the whole. Similar to the other various teachings of maintaining your vibration. Once you get to the point where you feel the joy, passion, and enthusiasm has dipped even a little bit, and you know there are other exciting things to do that maintains the high standard frequency, change to that next exciting thing. Let your joy flow to the next block and keep the consistency of your vibration.
This doesn't mean that the previous block you were in isn't exciting or joyful, it just means that you can find something that doesn't dip out of your chronic threshold of feeling good. I believe when we follow our instincts and gut reaction of what is more exciting right now, we will always continue to fluctuate in the consistency of the web.
Simple example - For instance, last night pre-season NFL football started for my favorite team. I have been a mega NFL fan since I was 12 years old. So even the thought of a game that doesn't really mean anything had me very excited. I like to follow all of the new players on the team and see how they perform no matter how boring it can get when backups are in most of the game.
In about the third quarter I started to get very tired from not getting much sleep the night before. I was excited to be watching football but the feeling of taking even a short nap was more appealing in a particular moment. I didn't resist the urge to fall asleep even though a player I wanted to watch closely just got into the game. In that exact moment, my highest vibration of excitement was to rest my body after I took the excitement of the game as far as I could.
Then I woke up about 30-40 minutes later and sleeping was no longer my highest joy in that moment. My highest joy went back to finishing the game and watching how the new players performed. Once the game was finished, my next exciting thing to do was read more of the book "Quest for the truth" by Bashar himself.
I have also been reading through This book on PsiTek (by the way thanks for the recommendation Stingray) which I am enjoying very much as well, but in that moment, the Bashar book felt more in the frequency of the web above than the latter for me. So I realized that the Bashar book was my highest base frequency of excitement, and I ran with it over the other slightly less exciting option.
I hope this makes sense for you Stingray and anyone else interested. I hope it helps a little. This is just my personal interpretation and isn't meant to be the end all do all final answer. As Bashar would most joyfully say.....SHARING!
EDIT: Added more of my perspective.
In the first video Bashar eventually mentions that we need to let it flow. We need to let our highest excitement flow through us. He also says, "act upon whatever you can act on next, and let the other take a rest." It's similar to what I am saying about not draining the first excitement until it pulls you down in vibration. Don't let it even take you there. Just let it take a rest and act on the numerous number of other things in the web at that moment.
He also mentions that "you will always put on the brakes(by going out of the web) when you are attempting to force yourself in a direction that is not necessarily the path of least resistance."
That last quote is similar to what I mentioned in the comments to Stingray. For me at least, a systematic approach is not ideal for this idea because it feels to me like forcing myself in another direction. I prefer to follow my gut, my instincts, and my intuition to take action in that moment and trusting that it really is my best possible highest excitement based on the feeling or vibration in that moment. But this is what works best for me. Everyone will probably use what works best for them.
Bashar's quote about flow "Take a Que from what occurs naturally and follow that flow, and when you follow the flow of your energy, other things will start to flow back."
I think this sums up my idea of the spiderweb diagram. When we follow our feelings of any excitement no matter if it is sweeping the floor or bungee jumping, we can then stay in the flow of the web continuously, other ideas that match the current excitement will start to flow back. Then there is no need to try to figure out what to do next. Take that current excitement as far as the threshold point, and then naturally allow the flow of the next excitement to come to you with no resistance.
I watched this video last night after I posted this answer. For me it seemed to really have a lot of synchronicity to the explanation I gave in the first part of my answer about the web.
The key is to understand (as Bashar mentions early in the video) that we can act on our excitement in every given moment on anything.
Bashar says... "It's the excitement in the simple things, that tells you what simple things are actually connected to the bigger things that excite you."
This is a good example of the purple arrows in my diagram. The simple things and the big things are all interconnected. Once you flow through the furthest you can with a simple thing, just allow yourself to easily flow in the other direction of the big thing or vice versa since its all the same web of joy anyway.
Coffee breaks .That's where you find the point that excitement fades, when a coffee break sounds better than what your doing. as far as you can is just a momental thought those moment that it seems that it is as far as you can. Can change in the next moment.So there in-between those moments you have your coffee break.
answered 10 Aug '12, 19:27
I really like Bashar concepts because of their simplicity.
Take it as far as you can
In other words "Continue the action as long as it feels good. Then do something else that feels good".
Maybe it's no-more complicated than that.Maybe the feeling good is the whole point and the action is just of less importance.
Isn't that what life is all about really? Feeling good in the present moment and sustaining that good-feeling for as long as you can. You just cant ask for better than that.
When the actions take priority over how you feel you get into that destination consciousness that's just turns the present moment into a means to an end. :)
Of course Stingray you already know this plus a whole lot more so I don't even know why I'm writing this :) Im sure you will work this out.Sometimes we can't see the forest for the trees when we go into the details :)
Let us use a practical example:
I love playing piano. It gives me "excitement"- as Bashar says.
So...I sit down to practice, and I play and play.
First, I warm up with scales and Hanon. Those are pretty hard on the hands...but necessary to develop speed and accuracy.
Then, I start to work on Beethoven's Sonata No. 14. I work through the first page, but something begins to happen to my brain and hands. They feel fatigued. I push a bit, but finally, I have to admit that I can no longer play as well as I could when I started out. The "excitement" has run out, at least for my body. My mind, too, I notice, is slipping. I am missing notes.
I stop practicing. What now? I have "taken it as far as I can." But just for today...If I keep repeating my practices each day, eventually I will get better and better; that, too, is "taking it as far as you can". It is important to keep at the things that excite you!
So what to do next?
So, I have a job to make posters for church. So, I turn to that.
And so on.
I have noticed that as I have aged, my level of endurance has dropped. I cannot play piano for hours and hours like I could when I was younger. No problem. I hop, skip, and jump through the day, moving from one task to the next, cycling through until bedtime. It is a compensation for the wear and tear on my mind and body that the years have created in me.
But my "excitement" has not dropped at all! I "feel" 25, despite being middle-aged. I just have to be more clever, is all...see this question for the debate about spirituality and aging...
There is a scene in the movie Facing The Giants where the coach blind folds his quarterback and has him do a suicide crawl with a 150 lbs boy on his back and tells him, "I just want you to reach the 50 yard line!" The QB says "50 I never reached the 50 in a suicide crawl!" The coach says, "I want you to give this your absolute best, I know you can reach the 50 yard line!" Then he starts the crawl and his coach is with him yelling the whole time, "Come on you can do this, keep going!" The QB is complaining, "It hurts I can't make it, he's too heavy bla..bla..bla..." The coach keeps pushing and yelling, "Keep going don't give up keep going! Push it, go more, more go!" The QB says, "Am I near the the 50 yet?" The coach says, "NO, push it go, keep going!" He starts saying, "It burns, it burns, I can't take much more I must be near the 50 by now!" The coach says, "Keep it up go, go, go, push it!!!! Just give me ten more steps!" The QB is near screaming in pain but not giving up! Then the coach says, "Give me another ten more push it keep going!!!!" He does until he collapses in pain and exhaustion, he asks, "Did I make the 50?" The coach says, "No take off the blind fold you are in the End Zone!" The coach says, "You thought you couldn't make the 50 and you just crawled the entire football field with a 150 boy strapped on your back!" The boy says, "coach I'm a 160 lbs." The quarter back's knees never touched the ground the entire football field!
That is giving it your best, taking it as far as you can take it. We tend to quit long before we reach to our absolute exhausted potential.
Some very good answers above. I like Cory's diagrammatic explanation which is in line with my interpretation of what Bashar means when he says "Take it as far as you can".
In terms of a swiching point between activities, I think it should be focus or attention driven. When you are embarking on your highest excitement activity, this surely has your full attention and focus.
There cannot be more than one activity that you can give your full attention and focus at any point in time. Therefore, that means as soon as you can even give your some of your attention to something else, then this must mean that your excitement has dipped. This is then the time to reassess the task list.
answered 11 Aug '12, 08:03
I'm thinking about giving consideration to the reason why things on the list go stale, why the dip in excitement at any given moment. Looking for the finer point described in your edit, I have a feeling that the answer you're seeking lies in there somewhere.
It seems in my life, when that happens, its because something I'm not consciously aware of has changed; maybe that the Universe has taken care of that thing for me, or its just not neccessary that it be on my radar anymore.
For example, a task that has been on one ever-evolving list for me all week has been writing to my uncle. He is recently widowed and on his own, and exchanging letters with me is comfort and company for him. I enjoy this practice very much myself, but I've been distracted and a little low, which I certainly don't want him to sense right now, as he has enough on his plate. The task just never makes it to the top of the present moment excitement list. Anyway, it turns out another family member has suddenly begun writing to him much more often, so my letters really weren't as needed in these past few weeks as they had been before. That's a bit of an obvious, macrocosim example, but I have a feeling that if we could perceive it, it would apply right down to the finest little variations of excitement we're discussing here.
I think, what I'm suggesting is that "just" trusting your intuition from moment to moment may be all the process that is required at the level of distinction you are working on nailing down. That that process may be more intricate and valid than it seems at first glance, and trying to find one beyond that could be creating the dissatisfaction within you. I am sure that you have developed your own intuition to a high level - but perhaps honing that, giving it your attention and energy, your respect, would make the difference.
I am not suggesting that you blow this off or settle for anything less than total satisfaction in your practice of every drop of the subtlety and richness in these principles, but that you may find within your intuition itself all the precision of process that you crave.
I haven't read the answers here, I just read your question plus the edit, so I may be repeating some of what is already posted.
Based on your clarification, I would say that if you are in the middle of an activity that has the highest excitement possible, you are literally "lost" in that activity. You are not concerned with time, or wishing you were doing something else. You are so immersed in that activity that it's the only thing in your mind.
So I guess that once you stop and think if you should be doing something else, or you want to check your excitement level you already snapped out of that "lost" state, you became "aware" either of the time, or concerns, or to do lists or another activity you want to do.
So I would say that once that happens it's a good time to reassess again what activities are at your disposal. I guess this would be an ideal state of jumping from one activity to the other diving in the joy of it each time.
Regarding the paralysis by analysis, I would say that if you are in a gray zone it would be better to stick to the one you are already doing until something jumps out of the rest. Because it means that the activity you aren't currently doing (the one you are considering to do) doesn't contain enough excitement that is worth switching, otherwise you would have left what you were doing and jump on this new choice right away.
Hope it helps, Let me know any opinions you may have about this.
answered 11 Aug '12, 19:02
In other words,
In other words, the initial "state of being" of excitement you were in when you chose it justifies continuing to work on it, no matter what, until you simply run out of viable things to do regarding it.
If you are not excited about doing something, you're not going to give it your best. Which not only does not bring you satisfaction, but it creates regret. And regret is a Bullet train ride to unhappiness.
Stick to your excitement.
Edit Here I'm three days in row at work doing nothing but watching all videos about surfing. People keep sending me work-related issues to solve, but I've no time to solve them now, they gotta wait, because I'm too excited dreaming about riding waves. Although I never did that and the nearest coast to surf is like 1000 kilometers away from my place, I have this huge urge to think about it nonstop.
Just a similar way to express what Bashar said.
I do not believe that Bashar was the first philosopher to coin the phrase "Take it as far as you can" (Not that anyone is implying that he was). This saying, like many cliche sayings, can be used in a positive or negative connotation. An example is: You may be good with programming computers or you may be a talented athlete, when this saying is applied to one of those it can mean that you may be able to teach yourself or become the best at said talent. You can not only have fun with your vocation, but make a career out of it as well. This is the positive connotation, however, the negative connotation could also be applied to being a criminal. For example, you could be very good at theft or killing. Just because you are good at something doesn't necessarily mean you should "take it as far as you can". Before college, I was friends with quite a few criminals. Drug dealers, psychos, thieves, they all took it as far as they could and now they're in prison. This phrase's meaning can be taken as deeply as you would like to take it, but it is what it is.
answered 10 Aug '12, 20:09
Having read a few of the answers here, I have narrowed my perspective on this to two ideas with a third point that is not really an idea but rather a comment on the need to analyze Bashar's words this way.
So let me start with the third point.
I think Bashar's words are meant to trigger an understanding that is fluid and flexible according to the need at the moment. Just like having a conversation with another person.
I don't think it was meant to be broken down into such a fine analysis where the meaning of each word is taken into consideration, even though he was using those words with precise intent.
I feel that, to analyze it this way is no different from showing Usain Bolt a slow motion footage of the men's 100m final and asking him why he glanced sideways 3 steps before crossing the finish line, or why he chose to cross it with his right foot instead of his left; (I have no idea which foot he did use).
However, let us say that he did mean to say, "Take it as far as you can" with a deliberate and precise intent.
In this case, only the understanding that is triggered within you is precise for your needs, and since "Take it as far as you can" is somewhat vague, it was obviously meant to awaken an understanding from a wide range of perspectives.
So let us say that your excitement placed you at the beginning of a walk across the Grand Canyon. And as you reached the halfway point at the bottom of the canyon, your enthusiasm for the activity was no longer there.
What does "Take it as far as you can" mean here?
Like it or not, you have to walk the rest of the way before you can follow your next "excitement"
Many of the things we begin with great excitement follow this same path and we have to keep pushing past the point where the excitement is no longer there.
Do you recall how exciting the TV show “The American Idol", Used to be?
However, once we became familiar with the format it seems to have lost much of that initial excitement.
Our own dreams that initially create great excitement become less exciting as we become more and more familiar with every detail within them.
Therefore, my second point is, excitement is not permanent; and it is impossible to be excited about the same thing for a long time, because familiarity makes the excitement fade away.
So constant change is a necessary component in maintaining excitement and this change is much shorter than the activity of "taking it as far as you can"
Therefore, this brings me to the final point.
I think he meant, "Recognize when the activity that began with excitement has taken its course"
So in the example of crossing the Grand Canyon, even if your excitement is gone at the mid-point, you have no choice but keep going until you get out of the canyon, but getting out of the canyon marks the official point where you have "taken it as far as you can".
Another example is to invite guests over for dinner and during the dinner lots of new desires will be launched within you in response to the interaction with your guests, but you have to recognize that after the dinner, you have to put everything away and wash the dishes even though you would rather be doing something more exciting. Putting things away is the point of "taking it as far as you can" so that you can make room to launch more exciting desires into physical existence.
Now here is the tricky part.
Although both my examples above are physical examples, I think that Bashar is actually talking about "taking it as far as you can" in a psychological sense where you can clearly recognize the extent to which you can "see" in your mind's eye what you must do towards realizing your excitement.
In other words, he is probably saying, "let your instincts guide you to the very edge of your own inner confidence within that instinct"
I think he is trying to teach us to live in spiritual confidence instead of analytical confidence.
"So what do you think that Bashar's phrase "Take it as far as you can" really means?"
I think that, more importantly than dwelling on that question, is constantly reminding yourself that whatever it is that you're doing, "it is not an interruption in it"! You're not interrupting your excitement (i.e. not "taking it as far as you can") by doing "something else" -- it's part of your excitement, even if it doesn't look connected.
"For example, let's say my greatest excitement is doing my taxes instead of going for a walk."
That seems rather unrealistic! :D It could only really be anxiety, because you don't really want to do it but you know that if you don't, some people will feel that they have the right to initiate violence against you. That's why you want to do that task.
(I didn't notice that this thread was from 2.5 years ago before writing; it appeared on the main page only because the OP was edited yesterday.)
answered 25 Mar '15, 16:00
I was perusing this thread among other threads here on Bashar, and at another discussion forum, someone posted:
So there you have another possible meaning of "Take it as far as you can." Makes sense to me.
answered 14 Oct, 20:47
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