The question has been closed for the following reason "No longer relevant" by Barry Allen 31 Jan '13, 15:38
The "Dark Night of the Soul" is simply an energy imbalance. Nothing to worry about if you know how to handle it. Abraham call it "all hell breaks loose" or what other spiritual teachers call "spiritual awakening". Read the answers here to learn how to handle them.
I think many of us here went through those stages already and know how to handle them. What is going on is you begin to see limiting beliefs that you have surpressed before. If you can't handle them, yes that's right, you will eventually DIE.
Here is what Stingray says about it. Click here to read the full answer.
Mastermind i assume you have good intentions in spreading fear. But imo there is not much value in spreading fear if you don't clear things up and show ways to handle difficulties.
What i learned in life going through deep depressions and panic attacks is one thing. Don't let fear rule your life. Life with fear is always very poor and sad anyway (much more than the dark night of the soul). So don't never ever fear anything. You might miss the best joys in life.
And this site is a gold mine if you are open to new ways and ideas. So enjoy and be openminded. At least test these ideas and if you don't like them, drop them again if you want to.
One who ALLOWS these valuable ideas on this site should also be able to ALLOW resistance to melt away. One who lives the art of ALLOWING has nothing to fear.
answered 07 Dec '12, 11:38
Hello mastermind2 ... yes very true spiritual secrets can be dangerous, it all depends on our intentions ... if we focus on "good", we attract "good" ... if we focus on "bad", we attract "bad" ... let's remember that nothing has any value except the value that we give it ... it is better to be aware than unaware of this kind of secret :)
answered 05 Dec '12, 14:32
The only book I found dangerous was "Abramelin. Most of the rest from OTO, GD, AA, )+(UMMO is flashy and theatrical, but can't hold a candle to the Law of Attraction for sheer creative power without backlash. This is what runs the Universe. Not punishment. Not the kind of Karma that has someone paying for past life sins.
@Mastermind2 Why do you say the LOA is dangerous? You darkly hint at secrets and hidden dangers, even offering your help to escape them. You seem to feel that even meditation is dangerous without a teacher. Who are you kidding?
Are you solictiting disciples?
Do you think it takes hard work to progress? It may take discipline. The Path is simple once you uderstand the LOA, and self-governing.
Sounds like the Lower Astral. But there is little need to try to enter there.
The bottom line is exactly as @BluBird two said,
Whatever, it is indisputable that we, WE write the scripts of our lives. Not some Egyptian in a faraway land and time zone.
If you want to live in a dark Lovecraftian universe, that is your choice. I will not and do not live there. What I am writing is as close as I care to be, and therefore this stuff has no power over me.
I give the spotlight of my attention to the things I enjoy, Beauty, Light, Fun, Life!
I feel like I need a shower and a meditation with Abraham. TTFN
answered 07 Dec '12, 19:37
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answered 05 Dec '12, 21:31
I understand your intentions @mastermind2. But from my perspective, there is no danger. Concept of danger can exist only in contradiction to concept of safety/security. And the only security there is, for this life, each life, is death (although not even death may be much of an security in a certain context, but here on earth, amongst the flesh and blood it is certain). So what that leaves us to fear then?
Fear of death is a great paradox. And from fear of death all other fears stem, thus creating multitude of seeming dangers which warning signs are just an expression of. Degree of our fear is in direct proportion to how much we are attached to "trinkets" of life. (Trinkets means all those illusory concepts we identify ourselves with, those that give us sense of a meaning of life or answer questions like who am I?. Like family ties, work and other relationships, our hobbies, interests, etc)
But you must already know and understand all of this otherwise you wouldn't come and warn people of the dangers that relate to spiritualism secrets. Because you recognize those ties and see, as I see, that many of those who want to give in to the game, but don't want to let go of the attachments which could break their neck if they choose to play anyway.
Yes, LOA and stuff may seem fascinating in a way, and as you have pointed out, very dangerous. It's not for everyone. Not because it wouldn't be for everyone, but because not everyone is ready to make, I don't wanna call it sacrifice, but this word shall suffice for now.
Even though the growth of consciousness is apparent all over the globe, people are not ready to dive into it. Making a wrong step could lead to a disaster. Just imagine dropping an a-bomb onto an emotional plane of life. Because if one attempts to manifest something and it goes wrong for him, all other people tied and unaware of, thus unable to cut, their connection to the subject, will be affected as well.
As for the teachers and books, I listen to what they say, but I don't follow. Seeing the concept is enough. As far as I can remember, I have broken many rules and ignored many signs. Consequences of my actions,.. there were indeed. But in breaking a rule lies an experience of understanding nature of why the rule has been set up in the first place, thus further deepening the knowledge of the whole concept the rule was born from, thus easier finding your way to realize whatever you may be after within this concept the more you understand it.
I guess my point is, the game is not called "signs of stops and goes", that's what people who like their illusion of life play. And I didn't write this to agree with or oppose you in any way. Or to "rebel" because I'm being seemingly denied something I might be interested in... I wrote it because, to put it bluntly, there's something in it for me, and if my post is a consequence of yours, then it is a specific consequence of mine I'm looking for. And I have a feeling, you are capable of creating one of those. ;-)
I think people use those secrets without reading about it somewhere (or learning). It could be their intuition working, how they adapted to life. Sometimes, spiritual secrets are the best solution to a problem(illness, relationships...).
Danger? Anything could be dangerous. Karma? How would this post affect my Karma or your post affect yours.
answered 09 Dec '12, 14:51
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