I am four classes away from my B.A. in Divinity. Last year, the school presented me with a bill for two classes that I had to drop due to illness (which was documented, and was supposed to mitigate any charge). The bill was for $4,000. I am on SSI- my income is about $700 a month and there was no way I could come up with that money,
So I had to stop attending school, which has damn near broken my heart.
I cannot go back to school anywhere else, because my transcripts are tied up until that bill is paid off. I understand where the school is coming from- but- I just found out that they gave the bill to a outside bill collector. Despite the bill being out of their hands, they still will not release my transcripts until it is paid off.
I am coming to an understanding that perhaps God is telling me this is not the path for me, but the bills have started for my school loans, and being handicapped and partially in a wheelchair, I cannot get a job without a degree that would pay enough money for all that I need to pay.
All of this has been going round and round in my head (I know, "what i resist, persists"), and it has been recently that I have come to the conclusion that God wants me elsewhere doing something other than the Ministry.
But my money situation seems so desperate, and I know it is bothering Wade, too. We are trying to let go and let God, but it isn't easy when people are threatening to shut off everything.
What is the Universe saying? What course of action should I take? I really could use some advice, encouragement and support from my friends here at IQ.
So close, and yet so far....Just four more classes...shoot.
asked 28 Feb '13, 18:04
There are probably some ministerial positions you could work, even now, without the degree. Perhaps working under the supervision of a minister...counseling and etc. It might not be highly paid, but would help you get your bills paid off and get your started in the field with some experience.
Also, have you tried reasoning with the college you have been dealing with? Oftentimes, a little communication can help. You could present your case in this way: Tell them in return for releasing your transcripts right now, you will not sue them for charging you for unused classes. Stress to them that you can prove you dropped the classes for a valid reason and could get an attorney. Sometimes this gets things moving in the right direction.
Also, attorneys will often write a letter for you, for not much money...perhaps just $50-100. This could persuede the school to work things out with you without actually having to do battle with them. Then you could finish up your studies and finish your payments over some time. The threat of a lawyer taking up your case is often a big motivator to the "opposition"
I don't think the universe is trying to tell you anything other than that you are working with a school that is used to bullying people around. Why see something other than that?
If this is your dream, to be a minister, then fight for it a bit. Many things worth having/being/doing require extra efforts and sometimes jumping a roadblock is needed. Meanwhile, in your mind, keep seeing this as resolved and see yourself finishing your classes and paying them off; that will help send opportunities your way. I would not throw away a major dream and years of work and study over an obstacle! I say that if this was not your correct path, it would have been revealed to you much sooner and before you had expended so much time, money and effort.
I hope this works out for you....keep us posted! Best wishes, Jai!
answered 01 Mar '13, 11:24
I think youve experienced something that many evangelical christians go thru.
Ive known hundreds of friends and family members desperate for a " MINISTRY"
I have a sister and brother in law who have been chasing this phantom all their lives. They preach a supposed gospel which says that if you dont accept jesus as your personal saviour you will, albiet reluctantly, be thrown into hell. Of course god doesnt really want this but hey ho....you all had the chance...right?
Their god hasnt financed or supported their aims. They havnt been able to pray, believe or cajole god to help them. After 30 years their lives are in tatters.
Im saying this from personal experience Jai, i know many many people who are related to me and that ive grown up with that are coming against this brick wall.
That degree in divinity is worthless Jai, im sorry but it just is. Its man made, misguided and a waste of your resources and time.
Jai, listen to this, this will encourage you. YOUR WORTH MORE THAN THAT degree. You ARE a physical embodyment of the Christ that a bunch of "fast asleep" theologians are trying to misteach you about.
YOU are a finished article, you are PERFECT, you were PERFECT before you moved into this life your living now.Your state of perfection is timeless and non negotiable.
YOU ARE a ministry. You dont need a degree any more than the true Christ who IS YOU needs one.
Does God need a degree Jai....NO....your ONE ONE ONE ONE ONE ONE with Him So you dont need one either.
I knew your name before you entered this world Jai. I know EVERY name .
And so will you.
Your a blessing and a blessed.
answered 03 Mar '13, 09:03
From Imagining Creates:
I have disclosed the one and only source of the phenomena of life. Everything that has ever happened, is happening, or will happen to you, comes from God, who is your own wonderful human imagination. I urge you to use it wisely.
Now a lady wrote me, saying she heard a voice cursing her, and - not understanding - she questioned self and heard the words: "Because I want you."
In the Book of Galatians, Paul tells those who have arrived at the end of their journey, to reject all laws and institutions which would interfere with the direct communication with their individual God. (Galatians 5:1-14)
In the spirit world, all organized societies are personified. Rivers, mountains, cities - everything is human, for God is Man. Even the Los Angeles Woman's Club building is personified in the spirit world. Representing a need of the ladies who own it, when seen in the spirit world, and trying to detach yourself from it, it will curse you, for it wants to feed on you.
So when you leave religious institutions, organizations, customs, and laws that would interfere with your individual direct communion with your God, they will curse you, for they will have lost you. Just leave them alone. I have seen them all and they are nothing more than shadows. Once I saw a monstrous witch in a cave teaching little children the black arts. When she saw me she screamed: "O Man of God, what have you to do with me?"
The Bible tells the same story. Those who teach the black arts and how to hurt people, those who would control your mind and make you dependent upon them, are only personifications of organizations who keep you from contacting the only God who is within you. Every orthodox religious group would enslave you for the rest of eternity if they could; but when you leave that belief, its personification will curse your leaving, but their curse means nothing. They cannot touch you when you completely reject any intermediary between yourself and God.
Now to come back to tonight's theme: Imagining creates reality! Have you imagined something and it hasn't come to pass? Then what are you imagining right now?
Are you imagining you are John Brown? You were not born knowing you were John Brown. You were born and others began to call you John. As time passed you began to assume you were John Brown and began to respond when you heard the name John.
When you imagined being secure did you forget the feeling? Are you imagining you are secure now? You may have no evidence that you are secure, but as you allow others to tell you how much you are loved and wanted, how successful and famous you are, you will begin to assume it, and imagination will have created its reality. Try it, for that reality you already are!
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answered 02 Mar '13, 15:51
Well Jai, first lose all the can-nots in your question. Don't let this little bump in the road slow you down!
Seems to me it could be a case of "poverty consciousness", here are some of the symptoms
"i don't have any money"
"the only luck i have is bad"
"nothing good ever happens to me"
if any of this rings a bell then i feel sure that the following article will be very useful;
in the meantime here's a bit of music therapy
I am in the same boat. I finish and graduated school for architecture 1 and 1/2 years ago, but my teachers tried to hold be back with the final semester bc the private school has an outstanding bill for exactly that much. I wrote and letter and have to resubmit in order that change the grades but the stress of the money and the limbo tortures me so I can not focus on the final re submit. Everyday I think of this and I am paralyzed and hopeless.
I think, if you are like me you are at conflict with yourself. I have heard of others friends reaching the end of the degree and the school will throw some resistance to you walking out easy. Supposed to rise to the challenge otherwise you will not be ready for the real world. A friend studying for biology and another one in masters for teaching. I hear Brad Pitt was one semester away from becoming a lawyer, until he dropped everything and became an actor. Maybe he discovered the law of attraction and found a greater deal of success than ever imagined.
In my case I have taken the time to explore ever other possible avenue before completely giving in to the rest of my life. It's a hard thing to commit to.
with you I question if you have a conflict of the bible and law of attraction bc they are kind of different. maybe you discover your own path on your own study but finish the degree anyway I think bc you have so much invested in it, and youre screwed if you dont. I will try to take my advice as well.
answered 11 Mar '13, 02:54
@Jai Increase your font - read my last comment. I said I would help you - I've said it numerous times. I have to know EXACTLY which grant/loan is in default.. " Untying this knot is really simpler than you think " - Sure, if you pay off the debt ... You'll qualify for Federal Financial Aid again. I KNOW you are financially challenged & can't pay it off. I will tell you what you can (need to) do if it is fed. This is a onetime opportunity - they will NOT give you another chance. If this is fed debt, it is still owned by the Dept of Ed; however it is now in the hands of an outside collection agency & I will advise you. If I'm going to help you; you have to answer my questions.
There have been so many inconsistencies when you have discussed your financial issues - specifically SS. I do NOT know whether or not you are mixed up & misspoke because you are upset or if you aren't versed in SS, disability & medical assistance rules. I'm not sure you're getting the correct info from Human Services & SSA. Do you have a social worker assigned to your case or just a IM worker? Unfortunately, most times DHS does NOT tell you about all the programs you are eligible for.
I'm going to have to get into your 'business' if I'm going to assist you. You have to answer my questions & you have to be honest. I cannot help you otherwise. I know it's scary when you are 'in' the system & you have only enough money to survive. Many people operate in 'fear' mode when they are 'in' the system. It doesn't have to be that way. You cannot let the 'system' & or money rule your lives. You have OPTIONS. I assume this is the reason you did not get married as planned Christmas Eve. I may be able to help you with that too.
You need to stop operating in poverty consciousness & making choices out of fear..
Only you know the answer Jai. Only you.. I can help you dissolve this debt permanently or I can help you establish eligibility for financial aid again. If you decide on the later, it's up to you decide what type of classes you really want to take. Finish your degree or choose another field. My only advice - follow your passion - your highest joy. You have many talents & interests - art - music - communication - to name a few. This is not going to happen overnight. It will take 3 or 4 months & hopefully you can start classes again by January..
answered 12 Aug '13, 03:06
“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
In this world many are on the wide gate seeking only stuff from the outside.(money power,etc.) So are you really surprise at this?
If you should not pay anny of this and have it writen down in the agreement fight for it and stand your ground.Now you will see the justice of this world compare to the justice of God.That might be your next step and living lesson. Since it seams to push you in that direction. If men cannot respect their own agreement and their own law how can they respect God law?
If the blind lead the blind both will fall in a pit.Do not be surprise of my saying.
answered 28 Feb '13, 18:31
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