There seems to be correspondence between angels, feng shui and our four classical elements...

Natural energies associate four angels with the four elements; fire (michael), air (rafael), earth (auriel), water (gabriel) and suggests a fifth element that collects and distributes energies.

The chinese chi in feng shui is divided into five forms; fire, tree(air), earth, water and metal (metatron)

There are five archangels; metatron, michael, gabriel, raphael and auriel.

The archangel metatron seems to fit perfectly into place as the central element, receiving pure polarized energy from above and distributing it to the four earthly elements.

asked 03 Sep '11, 04:56

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But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him.

(04 Sep '11, 20:13) white tiger

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

(04 Sep '11, 20:14) white tiger

It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

(04 Sep '11, 20:15) white tiger

There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?

(04 Sep '11, 20:26) white tiger
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it is my understanding that the number of elements is seven,
four we know and use and continue to master in different ways;
as we are ready to use them the others will begin to be more apparent,
not sure what the names have been called for the new powers


answered 03 Sep '11, 16:00

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@fred-thanks for the info, have a great day :)

(04 Sep '11, 04:13) blubird two

Metatron, is the one to whom God revealed “all the mysteries of wisdom, all the depths of the perfect Torah and all the thoughts of men’s hearts.”[1] The text leaves the impression that the fullness of the disclosure of the ultimate secrets to this angel can be comparable only to the knowledge of the Deity itself, since according to

Metatron, all the mysteries of the world and all the orders (secrets)[2] of creation are revealed before him “as they stand revealed before the Creator”[3] himself.

3 Enoch’s emphasis on understanding the mysteries of the human heart is also discernible in the early Enochic lore, namely, in 2 Enoch 50:1, when the seventh antediluvian patriarch reveals to his children that he is the one who is able to see the hidden deeds of each person as in a mirror: “I have set down the achievements of each person in the writings and no one can (hide himself) who is born on the earth, nor (can) his achievement be kept secret. I see everything, as if in a mirror.”

it is said that metatron could be thoth of egypt or hermes of the grec.

Consequently, Thoth gradually became seen as a god of wisdom, magic, and the measurement, and regulation, of events, and of time. He was thus said to be the secretary and counselor of Ra, and with Ma'at (truth/order) stood next to Ra on the nightly voyage across the sky, Ra being a sun god.

In Greece itself the other gods have been depicted holding a caduceus, but it was mainly associated with Hermes. It was said to have the power to make people fall asleep or wake up, and also made peace between litigants, and is a visible sign of his authority, being used as a scepter. He was represented in doorways, possibly as an amulet of good fortune, or as a symbol of purification.

also roman mercury

Today, Mercury is regarded as the ruler of the third and sixth houses; traditionally, it ruled the 6th house, and had joy in the first house. Mercury is the messenger of the gods in mythology. It is the planet of day-to-day expression and relationships. Mercury's action is to take things apart and put them back together again. It is an opportunistic planet, decidedly unemotional and curious.

Mercury rules over Wednesday. In Romance languages, the word for Wednesday is often similar to Mercury (miercuri in Romanian, mercredi in French, miercoles in Spanish and "mercoledì" in Italian). Dante Alighieri associated Mercury with the liberal art of dialectic.[citation needed] In Chinese astrology, Mercury is ruled by the element water, which is diplomatic, kind, and intuitive. In Indian astrology, Mercury is called Budha, a word related to Buddhi ("intelligence"), and represents communication.[

experience and enjoy.


answered 04 Sep '11, 04:52

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white tiger

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@white tiger-all this is very interesting...however it comes from obscure texts...could you explain using your own words and experiences?

(04 Sep '11, 17:59) blubird two

well if you follow the link you can read it all. he went to god and god gave him knowledge. it is said he see in person as in a mirroir. as for the writting it is witness to god for the judgement or harvesting. if you understand when god ask him did this men do this he will say yes he did and the judgement will be pass on what role as a witness? experience and enjoy.

(04 Sep '11, 18:27) white tiger

as for the mirroir ask wade he understand that part.

(05 Sep '11, 02:00) white tiger

@white tiger-ok

(13 Sep '11, 08:30) blubird two
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The five elements align perfectly into the Wu Xing, a system of five phases describing interactions and relationships between phenomena ... the law of attraction is abundantly demonstrated within this system.

Moreover the five known states of physical matter also fit nicely into the schema, implying correlation between visible (physical) and invisible (non physical) worlds.

solid - earth, square, qilin or unicorn, yellow ...

liquid - water, curve, black tortoise, black ...

gas - air(wood), rectangle, azure dragon, green ...

plasma - fire, triangle, vermilion bird, red ...

superfluid - metal, round, white tiger(!), white ...

happy hunting


answered 07 Jan '12, 04:35

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blubird two
(suspended) are referring to the Caballa, of course, which is where your idea begins... but there are more than four archangels, and our friend Metatron is above them all... so, I see where you are coming from. However, I think that I prefer to leave Metatron as the Highest of Angels, the Scribe of God (as He has been called)- I believe that the angelic realm would have very little to do with Earthly elements...Their role as angels is as intercessors, messengers, and intermediaries between people and God. It seems almost sacrilegious to me to give this Highest of Angelic Creatures such a "physical" role on Earth...Just my Christian opinion.

Blessings to you, Jai


answered 03 Sep '11, 19:19

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@Jai-the idea came to me through simple everyday experience...i have long dated practice of natural subtle energies..."angels" are quite recent to me (though i do have childhood roman catholic memories of them)...the five "archangels" that seem to fit so well into the scene were literally sent to me by email recently by a reiki practicing you not feel that metatron and sandalphon are reflections of the same "energy"...metatron being earth based and sandalphon being at the top of the tower "in the sky"?

(04 Sep '11, 04:32) blubird two

one on earth one in the sky is it not blue bird.

(07 Sep '11, 05:32) white tiger

Some of the earliest sources on Sandalphon refer to him as the prophet Elijah transfigured and elevated to angelic status.[1] Other sources (mainly from the midrashic period) describe him as the "twin brother" of Metatron, whose human origin as Enoch was similar to the human origin of Sandalphon.[2]

(07 Sep '11, 05:40) white tiger

@white tiger-yes many years ago i had the very disagreable experience of feeling cut in two, one part of me was here and the other spinning in space as a satelite...

(12 Sep '11, 18:29) blubird two
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I think we shouldn't confuse Metatron with Hermes, nor Mercury.

The Sun sphere is ruled by a total of 45 genii. Their ruler, called "Master of the Sun Sphere" in the hermetic language, is named Mettatron in quabbalah. In the original quabbalistic scriptures Mettatron is called the mediator between God and man. page 299

As for the answer to the main question, the fifth element is akasa (or akasha).

  1. Akasa or the Ethereal Principle ~ Several times while describing the elements I have said that they proceed from the ethereal principle. Accordingly, the ethereal principle is the ultimate, the supreme, the most powerful thing, something inconceivable, the ultimate cause of all things existing and created. To put it in a nutshell, it is the causal sphere. Therefore akasa is spaceless and timeless. It is the non-created, the incomprehensible, the indefinable. The various religions have given it the name of God. It is the fifth power, the original power. Everything has been created by it and is kept in balance by it. It is the origin and the purity of all thoughts and intentions, it is the causal world wherein the whole creation in subsisting on, beginning from the highest spheres down to the lowest ones. It is the quintessence of the alchemists; it is all in all. taken from the theory part.

As for the correspondences to the elements, I think that God himself corresponds to akasa.


answered 07 Sep '11, 08:50

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Each planet unites inimical elements in alternate phases. This alternating polarity can be visualised as having a three dimensional quality: two spirals around a centre, which recalls this diagram as it appears in The Book of Thoth. The Caduceus is found on the Fool card of the Thoth Tarot. Note that Kether and the seventh or Head centre (both known as the Crown), transcend time. The Moon and Sun appear at 3 and 2 respectively on this diagram, which is quite appropriate, being the Mother and Father in the Tree of Life.

The characteristics of the planets relate to the chakras thus

(08 Sep '11, 04:36) white tiger

(08 Sep '11, 04:37) white tiger

Plane: Truth and reality enoch united with god and received the crown of life.

(08 Sep '11, 04:46) white tiger

Hugo Odeberg points to the specific attributes that accompany Metatron’s elevation into a lesser manifestation of the divine Name. Among them Odeberg lists the enthronement of Metatron, the conferment upon him of (a part of) the divine Glory, “honor, majesty and splendor,” represented by “a garment of glory, robe of honor,” and especially “a crown of kingship on which the mystical letters, representing cosmic and celestial agencies are engraved.”[8] The sharing of the attributes with the Godhead is significant and might convey the omniscience of its bearer.

(08 Sep '11, 04:55) white tiger

is it not said the truth will set you free. is God not the absolute truth.

(08 Sep '11, 05:04) white tiger

@Asklepios-we all have our own beliefs

(13 Sep '11, 08:32) blubird two
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