There are plenty of people on this site, including myself, that believe and practice "paranormal" mind power, yet the one million dollars offered by James Randi has never been won ... James Randy is a powerful "anti" force ... does this constitute evidence that the James Randi "anti" mind power and set up blocks the experiments thus proving the point ?

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

have fun :)

asked 27 Jan '12, 07:21

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Yes, I agree with you and I find the idea of it quite amusing actually.

James Randi's challenge does seem to prove the exact opposite of what he is trying to disprove...that Mind Power does exist because he is able to so effectively prevent others from winning it :)

I think it's actually quite an effective demonstration of a principle we've spoken about on IQ many times...

Namely, that you cannot assert into another's reality no matter how hard you try. An individual's dominant thoughts always reign supreme in their own reality and if they are not willing to be influenced by others, they have complete power in preventing that influence and only finding evidence that backs up their dominant thoughts. See Do scientists just make up their own answers?

What's going to be interesting to observe regarding that challenge is that we are entering a phase in humanity's "evolution" where we are all releasing our limitations and feelings of separateness and are starting to reconnect to the universal consciousness within us - the one that gives us access to unlimited "mind power"...and that "evolution" is going to affect James Randi himself from within.

He might well find that he himself starts demonstrating some of the ideas he is so skeptical about.

In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if the winner of James Randi's one million dollar challenge eventually turns out to be...James Randi :)

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answered 27 Jan '12, 07:42

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@Stingray - haha love it :D

(27 Jan '12, 07:58) blubird two

@blubird two - Yeah, I find it hard to stop laughing every time I think about that challenge. I've had so many obvious demonstrations of "mind power" in my own life over so many years that it strikes me as absurd. It's a like a drop of water in the ocean trying to prove the ocean doesn't exist :)

(27 Jan '12, 08:04) Stingray
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if james randy want to challenge him self let him be.

(27 Jan '12, 09:03) white tiger

Stingray - we could devise an experiment where the energy of James Randi is directed in such a way that his thought process actually increases the effect of the experiment! :)

(28 Jan '12, 23:40) blubird two

@blubird two - I think I'll pass on that one :) By "pushing against" the ideas of those you disagree with, you just draw more of those kinds of people and ideas into your own life because that is where your attention is now directed. It's a game you'll never win once you start playing it. I'm quite happy to let James Randi live in his own reality and I'll live in my own Randi-less reality :)

(29 Jan '12, 01:19) Stingray

@Stingray - i think of it as first of all understanding in which direction his energy flows and then devise an experiment that uses this direction as the driving energy :) ... it is going with the flow of James Randys energy ... in other words i recognize that he uses mind power and i'm prepared to put his own mind power in to play to drive the experiment ;)

(29 Jan '12, 02:05) blubird two
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People with that level of power would not care to entertain Randi in a challenge. It is something they would protect. Some may misuse this power, and should only be shared with those that have the training to handle it.

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answered 28 Jan '12, 07:57

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@The Knights Alchemy - so you agree the fact that no one has won the James Randi Challenge proves mind power does exist ? :)

(28 Jan '12, 09:40) blubird two

Exactly, people with that power will not share it for a challenge.

(29 Jan '12, 10:30) The Knights Alchemy

@The knights Alchemy - then we should rather consider the challenge of James Randi less of a combat but more of assisting an ageing man to fulfill his dreams ... :)

(29 Jan '12, 13:28) blubird two
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Hi Bluebird Two.

I'm going to keep this answer short (because in that there is a point)

You said "James Randy is a powerful "anti" force" in your summary of the question.

My point is "Against What?"

Step 1 in inward quest is TRUST YOURSELF.

If James Randi comes along and makes you second guess what you know then examine what you know but always go back to step 1.

And that is TRUST YOURSELF.

If James Randi is succeding (in your perception), chances are it's because you missed step 1

and what was that step?

Ok...All together Now.......

TRUST YOURSELF

(And if you get this you will get what purpose he serves within the "system")

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answered 28 Jan '12, 10:14

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@ The Traveller, hi, personally i've never met James Randi all i know about him is from articles on the internet ... my views of him come from this info;

http://www.randi.org/jr/

My conclusion after reading this information is that he has a strong mental energy that he uses consciously or unconsciously to block a "paranormal" demonstration ... this phenomenon is well known to any one who practices this kind of thing ... :)

(28 Jan '12, 11:05) blubird two

I was myself very interested in Magic as a teenager & became a card carrying member of the International Brotherhood of Magicians. This group of individuals is an interesting group. Every Magician at some point encounters the question "is there real magic?” That question invariably leads down seemingly two paths. (1)Belief in the spiritual or (2) pure skepticism. I never met a magician who was privately skeptic. Publicly, "yes", because it works well with the audience.

(28 Jan '12, 11:32) The Traveller

In magic, an interest in spiritual matters always leads you towards the occult (because of the very nature of magic, and the casting of spells). Also each membership group is called the "magic circle" and for some reason, people at the highest levels of authority and power are secretly interested in occult and magic, for I encountered people in positions of "skeptical authority" attending magic circle meetings.

(28 Jan '12, 11:37) The Traveller

Although I am talking about sleight of hand and stage magic, there was always the underlying hint and invitations to further explorations of the occult in private groups. I never felt comfortable about many of those hints and due to un-related circumstances I had to leave that entire scene (civil war). But let me tell you that these people took this stuff seriously and are very much into the paranormal.

(28 Jan '12, 11:42) The Traveller

@The Traveller - all physical manifestations have the same source ... source is a balance of pure magnetic and pure electric forces ... we could say that Uri Geller is electric and James Randi is magnetic ... they form a perfect equilibrium, the LOA.

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answered 27 Jan '12, 09:49

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@White Tiger - Copying and pasting from other websites is all very well but it only tells us what those people you are quoting thought. I'm sure you must have your own perspective that is unique to you and the way you think. Why not express that instead of relying so much on the existing words of others?

(27 Jan '12, 09:57) Stingray

@white tiger - does the law of attraction mean that eventually a white tiger will come face to face with a black tiger ? ... and an anti James Randi with a positive James Randi ? :)

(27 Jan '12, 23:57) blubird two

like i said before should we not use word because we are not the first that have create them? has for what i am saying is that some people do not want to ear or to see it is their choice why judge them? also sometime the sign are very subtil a proof with out sign of a proof. but a skeptic he will not see it and find some scientific explanation. also some find trouble in other people but they should look in them self first because they have bigger problems.

(28 Jan '12, 01:37) white tiger

and the trouble they expect will come not because of someone else but because of them self. so they should understand that. what goes in your mouth does not defile you what comes out of it does.

(28 Jan '12, 01:42) white tiger

you want a example of skeptic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgLm4_fq6GY

(28 Jan '12, 01:53) white tiger

blubird something you forgot about tiger they represent the balence of energy they are the yin yang. Yin/Yang Principle

  One look at the magnificent coat of a Tiger reveals much as the black stripes that are overlaid against the backdrop of orange/rust coloring suggests a certain duality. http://www.namastecafe.com/animal/tiger.htm
(01 Feb '12, 03:43) white tiger

@white tiger - and the black dragon is yin yang as well ... :)

http://www.renders-graphiques.fr/galerie/Dragons-66-autre/Dragon-Yin-Yang-tato-71977.htm

perhaps the white tiger contains a black tiger ?

(01 Feb '12, 04:47) blubird two
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James Randi should watch the Ghost Adventures and check out the PX (The talking ghost machine.) It lets you communicate with ghost just like if you were sitting at a table having a conversation together.

He can't disprove that thing it really does talk, I heard it on TV and now some guys were using one on You Tube at some Real Grave Yard, it was not fake.

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answered 29 Jan '12, 21:00

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@Wade Casaldi - thanks for the input, i'm now beginning to understand how James Randi works ... :)

(30 Jan '12, 00:04) blubird two

At first I thought this was good until I saw your answer to my talking ghost question.

(30 Jan '12, 01:52) Wade Casaldi
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well wade i have liked it. but we cannot please every one in this world.

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