Zak Bagans has a talking ghost machine, no one can deny this thing does exist he carries it in his hand on the show Ghost Adventures. This thing does work I have heard it actually talking! Even James Randi can't deny that, it was actually talking with Zak holding a conversation even!
With this absolute proof of ghosts, do you see this as bridging the gap between life and death that more people are going to be more careful how they live because we do go on, and we don't want to end up like these poor tortured souls did?
Here is an example I found on You Tube, but these guys are not as good at interpreting what the ghost is saying as Zak usually can do.
asked 28 Jan '12, 13:57
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I find it amusing that people do not agree that it is possible for these guys to be talking to a "ghost" through an electronic device, when some of these people believe that people like Esther Hicks, Darryl Anka, Wendy Kennedy etc are able to transmit information from infinite intelligence or non-human beings.
I believe that most people would probably have heard of stories of how some people got to see their loved ones even when they passed away at some point of time in life, and no one dismisses that probability, yet when they decide to communicate through an electronic device people have a difficulty time believing it?
If "ghosts" really exist, they would have the ability to communicate in any ways they wanted to, so there is definitely a possiblity of this happening in the near future.
answered 01 Feb '12, 03:58
@kakaboo: You said, "If "ghosts" really exist, they would have the ability to communicate in any ways they wanted to, so there is definitely a possiblity of this happening in the near future."
Why would they have the ability to communicate in any way? Becoming a ghost immediately allows one to do anything they want? There are many logical explanations for why ghosts would not be able to communicate with language, nor electronics (souls being necessary for interaction with another realm, etc)
(02 Feb '12, 00:58) Snow
Because ultimately ghosts are considered as a part of non physical energy and infinite intelligence so they would have ways to communicate if they wanted to... it is only whether the other end (The receiving party - in this case humans) want to open up and listen or not.
(02 Feb '12, 02:15) kakaboo
An interesting point of view. It is not my belief however that there are simply those two choices. [alive; or directly connected to the higher consciousness and all of its infinite intelligence.] I believe there are many different stages above, below, and even equal to our perception of life, and even pseudo-life [such as ghosts, trans-dimensional beings, etc].
(04 Feb '12, 14:37) Snow
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maybe there is no gap. and all is allready there. only a lack of truth to know what is there. and yes wade maybe some will not want to remain empty in this life and the next.
answered 28 Jan '12, 15:26
Hello Wade, i must admit i had to laugh seeing this "proof" that ghosts exist ... i feel like i'm in the skin of James Randi and the way he sees things, in other words the "paranormal" can be scientifically explained and therefore exists only in the imagination ... sure this talking ghost machine works after all that's why it was made!
However who or whatever is producing the voice in the ghost machine is another matter ... for me this electronic box works on the same principle as the pendulum, ouija board etc. ... being a daily practitioner of the pendulum and getting good positive results i must admit that in the right hands i believe that the talking ghost machine can give good results. Having said this, "there is never anything new under the sun" as the saying goes and i would like to add that the results obtained would be just as good as with any other method of divination depending on the operator ... just for information here is an article
Bill Reid in his article on earth energies, explains how to use a simple radio frequency detector ... quoting "for this you need a small battery-operated AM/FM radio. Tune it to a station on the low end of the AM dial, then detune until no sound is heard. If you bring this radio close to a source of radio frequencies, such as a dimmer switch, you will hear a squealing sound." ... this seems very close to how a ghost detector works ... here is the complete article
have fun :)
answered 29 Jan '12, 23:35
you seam to be a skeptic blubird? i do not say that it cannot be rig or that it does not deserve some more study. has for anny skeptic they do not want to see. and you know the saying their is no worst blind that someone that does not want to see.
(30 Jan '12, 00:04) white tiger
This is a real machine you can buy one for a little over $150 cash and it is yours. http://www.ghosthuntershop.com/px.html
(30 Jan '12, 01:48) Wade Casaldi
Very interesting article! I don't see the connection with my question but I am enjoying it very much. It seems to be about lay-lines earth energy fields. Thanks.
(14 Feb '12, 12:12) Wade Casaldi
@Wade - yes true, the article hasn't a lot to do with the question, it was just a furtive way to bring what seems an interesting article to notice :)
(14 Feb '12, 14:13) blubird two
"you know the saying their is no worst blind that someone that does not want to see." absolutely agree @white tiger
(23 Jun '13, 23:50) ele
a little music for you @blu
(24 Jun '13, 00:40) ele
I enjoyed the article on earth energies. I wonder who just voted your answer up? a new persona possibly - hope so - miss ya..
(24 Jun '13, 01:03) ele
Do you have Skype? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og7AyfONGgo http://www.hauntingreview.com/skype-crossovertalk-itc-device-evp-experiment/
(24 Jun '13, 12:38) ursixx
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I'd be inclined to approach these concepts with skepticism as well, for a few reasons.
For starters, I can "hear" messages in just about anything if I listen hard enough. Does that mean there is a hidden underlying message behind everything ever made? Possible, but I doubt it. I'd be more inclined to think that one can perceive literally any message if they're willing enough and given a large enough sample size of things to select from.
I've never seen this specific instance, though I've watched three different shows of this nature. There's even a ghost show (I believe it is British) that involves some college girls who always seem to end up in their underwear.
[EDIT: 06/23/2013. I've changed my opinion regarding the following as time progressed, and actually strongly believe it is not only likely from my own point of view but also that numerous religions and belief systems encourage the idea as well.] I'm not saying that this idea isn't possible, but I can't think of any belief system that would encourage it as being likely, especially through use of electronics. The biggest reason I say this is that I've never heard of any belief system that reflects ghost in the same way they are depicted in cinema. For example, speaking in a language? I've never heard of this being easily feasible, if even possible at all. Common explanations for why are centered around the idea that language is a construct of the physical world, souls operate under entirely different parameters than what we perceive here, etc etc.
answered 30 Jan '12, 07:32
@Snow - thanks for your input ... skepticism blocks the flow of "energy" :)
(01 Feb '12, 05:04) blubird two
Hmm? Sorry, I don't understand what your second sentence means.
(02 Feb '12, 01:00) Snow
@Snow - the "talking ghost machine" works on the same principles as any other system of divination ... to practice divination requires the operator to be in a state of belief, desire and confidence ... skepticism is disbelief and disables the possibility of divination to function correctly ... and talking of ghosts, these also are beliefs :)
(02 Feb '12, 01:24) blubird two
This is funny Blubird is skeptical and that is okay, Snow is skeptical and blubird disagrees! I am trying to understand this.
(02 Feb '12, 01:56) Wade Casaldi
@Wade - good point Wade, let me explain my view ... i'm skeptical about the concept of ghosts(phantoms) as such, though i accept that there are creative subtle energies involved in divination ... and Snow is skeptical about the possibility of divination and about how an electronic machine can translate subtle energies into human language ... :)
(02 Feb '12, 02:33) blubird two
Ahh two different belief systems on what it is to be skeptical about I see... :-)
(02 Feb '12, 17:08) Wade Casaldi
@Wade Casaldi - we'll get there eventually Wade, lol
(02 Feb '12, 23:40) blubird two
I'm sure Bluebird never meant to imply that my skepticism was more or less "okay" than anything else. I disagree with points all the time, that doesn't mean that I'm not "OK" with others believing in them. ;)
@ The topic: I as I said in another comment, I believe there are more than two states of existence. [alive or dead+with the higher consciousness] I believe there are many different stages above, below, and even equal to our perception of life, and even pseudo-life.
(04 Feb '12, 14:41) Snow
This of course means I absolutely believe in varying degrees of spiritual entities, as well as entities that are present or have influence over more than one 'realm' or 'type of reality'.
However I don't believe that ghosts [generally explained as hanging out because of spiritual turmoil, not simply because being a ghost is Casper-like and enjoyable.] would be attached to a higher consciousness that would make their existence here more or less a moot point.
(04 Feb '12, 14:43) Snow
But just because we cannot understand how something works doesn't mean it is possible for something to just explain away everything it does with "It's magic/supernatural it doesn't have to have a reasonable explanation."
Since human language is a construct of a very specific set of rules here in our reality, it seems unusual to me that a ghost would be able to be able to 'think' that way at all. My understanding of ghosts denies that they are 'thinking' in our context of the word at all.
(04 Feb '12, 14:46) Snow
This is why generally the driving force behind contact with spirits like this involves feeling emotions (a "language" of itself that transcends many borders, in our reality and others) and "impulses" from what the "outsider" is trying to express. Whenever someone starts saying stuff like "the ghost is telling me [phrase]" I immediately put on my skeptic hat simply because I imagine it'd be very hard to be that "finely tuned" to be able to translate so directly. Not saying it is impossible, just-
(04 Feb '12, 14:48) Snow
Something that I wouldn't expect to be a common ability. Then there is the idea that since ghosts exist on another plane which requires a soul of your own to communicate with, it would be impossible in this case for an electronic device (no soul) to be the driving force in the process.
A tool used by the "channeler", absolutely, but my beliefs would dictate that the living being would still be the main source of functionality in this process, not the device.
(04 Feb '12, 14:50) Snow
The device is actually rare not common, I think no one else makes one.
(05 Feb '12, 23:24) Wade Casaldi
@Wade Casaldi - in my mind it is crystal clear - all physical phenomena are manifestations of electromagnetic fields (EMF) ... the deeper energies within these fields are yet to be defined though could be described as being principles of life and thought ... the device converts the physically measurable part of the EMF into spoken language, it is a simple electronic energy converter, just as a pencil is a simple energy converter and allows us to convert thoughts into written language :)
(06 Feb '12, 01:28) blubird two
This is funny @Wade Blu is "skeptical about the concept of ghosts(phantoms)" yet he believes in every other metaphysical concept under the sun whether debunked or not + he has no prob believing in aliens. This statement is even more confusing: "paranormal" can be scientifically explained and therefore exists only in the imagination." I could find a couple 100 of his posts just on imagination alone. I also recall his posts regarding channeling an entity as well as channeling deceased loved ones.
(24 Jun '13, 00:06) ele
@ele Thanks for sticking up for me. Yes I agree with you, it does seem strange. How someone could believe one far out thing but be a skeptic about another out there idea.
(24 Jun '13, 00:18) Wade Casaldi
What I find funniest is reading my own old comments on the subject, and seeing how my perceptions and standpoints have changed and evolved over time.
I now entirely believe it's theoretically possible for a machine to be involved in this process. I also now believe as one improves their different senses it's entirely plausible to refine their perception of all sorts of seen and unseen input from the outside world, and process it in a number of different ways. Weird! =) I've changed a bit.
(24 Jun '13, 00:20) Snow
@Wade: Doesn't that feel much like different religions being less than accepting of one another for being outlandish and crazy, despite holding extremely similar content if examined?
I've also noticed an individuals personal resistance to a subject (for example my own in this scenario) can actually interfere with their ability to personally observe or encounter the phenomenon they doubt!
Thanks for sharing this! =) It's fun to see how you've helped me come around.
(24 Jun '13, 00:31) Snow
@Wade Casaldi Just speaking the truth as I see it & apparently we had the same view. I'm certain blu is still reading IQ; perhaps he will come back an enlighten us if so inspired. I've read quite a few of his discussions on the subject - mainly with WT. I can't speak for him; but my impression was - if you believed in ghosts it was actually a sign of some form of mental illness such as anxiety. If I'm incorrect I apologize. As for why - I won't venture a guess. BTW, Hi blu Hi ru bis
(24 Jun '13, 00:33) ele
Man, our ghost team really wanted this device. They are ridiculously expensive, and from what I remember being told at the time, only one guy makes them.
The device I used would just cycle through every radio station on either AM or FM depending what you set it at and then skip through each one every split second either upwards or downwards. So you would hear every radio station go by, but the frequency at which they speak would rip through all channels and so it wouldn't matter. (P1)
(24 Jun '13, 00:44) ikaruss21
You would hear the actual voice though of the entity and not just a robotic voice. That is because the fancy device the guys in the video are using works by letting the entity choose from a dictionary of pre-stored words to select and make the box play.
So I would imagine you would miss out on hearing the gender of the voice through the entity as well as the emotion of what it was saying too through using this device. Nonetheless, I'm still jealous and wish i could have one lol.. (P2)
(24 Jun '13, 00:50) ikaruss21
I updated it to explain my views had evolved on the subject. Though before I did believe this sort of thing was possible, I hadn't refined my ideas of how or why.
I think it's good to show I started with (a bit too much) skepticism and misplaced perceptions and have managed to continue to accept possibility of growth in my own beliefs, and how much I've grown / adapted in a reasonably short (or not) period of time.
Never claimed to be infallible, or anything of the sort. I can always be wrong.
(24 Jun '13, 00:50) Snow
Biggest lesson I have to relearn for myself here, funny because it is one of my favorite quotes I like to throw around yet I can sometimes forget to practice and embrace it myself.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
Always good to remember to keep a steady and well fortified foundation of your mind, but always be safely open to new experiences. And remember we're imperfect.. =)
(24 Jun '13, 00:55) Snow
@Snow good cause I voted you up . . . I looked at the date - it was prior to our discussions on the subject. Did my stories have any influence?
(24 Jun '13, 00:59) ele
At this exact moment I can't remember too much. It's very likely possible they had more than just 'any' influence, in this topic and especially in others.
I hope it's been at least 'interesting' or something positive for you watching my development through this (and other) processes. For myself I've enjoyed looking back and seeing where I was vs where I am. I used to do this self-reflection process and feel stupid for how I was in the past. Now I'm at least appreciating I'm getting better.. =)
(24 Jun '13, 01:14) Snow
@Snow - just as well you don't recall. I hope you deleted the evidence. (kiddin') Your always interesting Sweetie - never a dull moment. Yes, you've come a long long way. Hey, don't put yourself down - you know how much I hate it when you do. My view has never changed since our first convo - you're brilliant & a work in progress.. Bravo - I applaud you..
(24 Jun '13, 01:26) ele
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Wade could you tell me more about this device? I have not seen Ghost Adventures and was not able to get much information. I am curious!
i agree leeAnn it might be pve. electronic recording that they play back and listen for voice that are not suppose to be there.
Well when I hear the machine it sounds like it is almost like a radio gone bad switching between channels very fast you mostly hear static and every now and then you hear answers coming from the machine.
Thank you White Tiger and Wade; I think I understand now. I will try to catch the TV show some time, it sounds interesting.
Has anyone watched the link I provided these guys are actually talking with this box and it is responding back with audible words you can hear! It is not like a talking board or pendulum these are spoken words at one point I heard the box say sorry to the guys listening to it. Maybe it isn't ghost maybe it is demons it is something talking to them you could hear. In case it is demons then they are messing with stuff they shouldn't be messing with.
@Wade Casaldi You can Google how to make a ghost box. I've never used one.