I've been experimenting with nicotine patches at night with the expectation that they would make it easier to trigger lucid dreams in which I could immerse myself in the feeling of the wish fulfilled but their effect wasn't as significant as I had expected. I don't know what to do anymore.
I'm going to start using the 21mg patches and instead of spacing the attempts, I'll do them every night. I've never smoked and the first couple of times I used the 14mg patch it made me sick. I was going to give up on that approach but I don't have a better idea and I just don't care about any possible negative outcome from using the patches (I got used to the 14mg patch, so even if the 21mg patch makes me sick, I'm sure I'll get used to it).
It also seems like (could be a coincidence) the negative effects (nausea) are dimishing while the positive effects (dreams that are more colorful, vivid, stable and well structured) are increasing.
Could smoking (and therefore patches) actually change the brain so it is better able to use nicotine instead of changing the brain to become less sensitive to it? Because it seems smokers have particularly strong experiences while on the patch (based on internet reports) while non-smokers sometimes notice nothing.
I came upon this because import restrictions make it impossible for me to use galantamine, which is supposedly an extremely effective way to induce lucid dreams. Nicotine patches, which do something similar (in effect, not mechanism) to galantamine, and even though nicotine is supposedly EVIL, patches are easier to buy than beer or cigarettes.
Have you ever tried sleeping with a nicotine patch on?
Flowsurfer, Flowsurfer, Flowsurfer
In some ways I agree with @Jai ; but I don't believe in censorship. I would like to write a few words of caution for anyone reading this & attempting methods suggested here.
Nicotine doesn't affect people in the same way. Everyone's system is different. Nicotine may increase your alertness; but for others it has a calming & relaxing effect.
It's very likely wearing a nicotine patch may produce vivid dreams; but that's a far cry from lucid dreaming flowsurfer. If you actually read the directions & look at the less common side effects you will see abnormal dreams listed. Any pharmacist will tell you the same thing.
A number of years ago, a gf of mine who was an elementary teacher was rushed to ER by ambo complaining of severe heart palpitations & shortness of breath after her Dr prescribed nicotine patches. She wasn't smoking at the time, so she didn't get a mega dose of nicotine. It's also contraindicated to smoke & use the patch at the same time. You are only asking for trouble if you do.
Here's a link to common nicotine side effects as well as less common.
Make sure you scroll down & read the less common side effects.
Personally, I think it's a waste of 50 bucks; but if someone is determined to take this route - I suggest the lower mg nicotine patches first & educate yourself.
You asked if anyone has tried wearing a nicotine patch at night. Are you supposed to remove the patch when you go to bed? I think most people wear the patch 24 hrs & then replace with a new one the next morning. I've worn the patch to bed. I've used the nicotine patches for other medicinal reasons from time to time & not to stop smoking. I don't recall any special dreams. I'll throw one on tonight & check it out.
As for Mugwort - generally a cup or two of tea is ok for most people. Yes, you can smoke it & also use if for smudging. Roy's right - you won't get high. My Grandmother was a herbalist & midwife & mugwort had many uses. I'm going to caution females in particular to educate themselves before using mugwort; especially if pregnant.
Here's a link.
It grows wild in my area; but you have to be able to distinguish it from another herb which looks similar. Yes, I've used mugwort for medicinal purposes.
This link has this word of caution on Mugwort.
No i havnt to be honest.
Im guessing that the " feeling of the wish fullfilled" is something similar to the teachings of Neville Goddard. In my humble opinion one of the most gifted and powerfull men ever to have been incarnated in this reality.
BUT...and its a big but, your probably not right now where Neville was when he taught these things. He had learned his "trade" with another master, he had studied and excercised his craft and had " put the hours in" . For Neville and perhaps a few others on this site the ideas he taught and the results he got were an easy vibrational step. Something very easy to believe and perhaps no big deal when they manifested.
But from what ive read in your questions and comments your trying to run here before you can even crawl!
Your trying to immerse yourself in the " feeling" of the wish fullfilled. Its not working is it? And frankly you could immerse yourself in a bath of pure nicotine and it still wouldnt work. Why ? because your core beliefs simply wont allow you to feel this. Not from where you are now. Its just not happening. The leap is simply TOO far for you .
Your like a boxer who after no training, no diet and excercise ,no experience ... takes a quick ten minute boxing lesson and then jumps into the ring with the Klitschko brothers....both of them.
Flowsurfer , your desperately trying to achieve something, but your going about it in such a way that your digging yourself into a bigger hole. And God knows with the nicotine patches your probably buggering up your health as well as your mind.
I think a lot of people on our site are trying to help you, they all mean well and most are giving you some sound advice.
Perhaps among this advice is the very stuff you need to start the process of healing yourself.
I sometimes fear we are wasting our time! I kind of get the impression that your not going to allow yourself to be healed.
Am i right Flowsurfer ?
answered 29 May '13, 13:05
I must admit i don't smoke and have never used nicotine patches or any other such non prescribed drugs, except wine which could be considered as a drug at high dosages ... however here's a guy that seems to know a bit about nicotine and dreaming
answered 28 May '13, 04:27
I am going to flag this question. Why? Because it is wrong to promote the use of a drug-and nicotine is a powerful and addicting drug-for something other than that drug was intended. I do not think that Inward Quest should allow us to write about misusing drugs to promote anything, including lucid dreaming.
Why are you so desperate to dream lucidly? Now there's a question you should be asking. Do you think that being powerful in your dreams will make you powerful in your daily life??? Wade dreams lucidly all the time, but I do not see him with a chain saw during the day, conquering bad guys. (One of his lucid dreams.)
Sorry, but this question is a bad one.
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