These two concepts:"Sacred space within the heart" and "Sacred Geometry" are the ultimate topics of Drumvalo Melchizedek. Maybe they are two aspects of the same subtle essence? The word "space" is used metaphoricaly for defining the domain of feelings or there is really a location, or both the variants are true and represents the same reality on different planes?
Some mentions:) It is well known that we feel our emotions in the pfisical zone of heart: increasing of heart contractions' frequence, additional pallidness or turning purple in the face by vessels contraction or dilatation. Bible contains notifications of these phisical zone in two special and significant circumstances: Genesis 2:21,22 For creating the female, God used a rib of Adam; why just a rib, the intervention being more difficile ang it needed general anesthesy, why not a a finger from foot? Maybe because the rib is located in the zone of heart? For a comunion of feelings within life partners? John 19: 33,34; Jesus was already dead when the solders come to crush the shanks of the three crucified, thanm they did no this to Jesus, but they had strike his rib with a lance, totaly useless, if not symbolically; and instantly the blood gushed. A dead being, hurted after death, don't bleed, because from the moment when the heart stopped to beat, it isn't blood circulation. But was this valid for the sacred space's zone of Jesus' heart?
Could be there a correlation within seed of life and the Spirit of life?
asked 02 May '10, 01:00
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Hi Gleam, “Sacred Geometry" in essence suggests that it is ...the foundation of all things created. It is explained by the different geometrical shapes or designs. Sacred Geometry is the blueprint of creation and the genesis of all form.
According to Drunvalo the “Sacred space within the heart” is an actual place (space) within you (man). Drunvalo “Sacred space” looks like a cave.
Others, experience different looking places, example; like being inside a pyramid. Everybody's Sacred Space is very likely to be very different.
In this space is where your spirit is. Where all things are born. The real you. (I'll explain more in detail below)
When these two elements are joined, Sacred Geometry (physical) + Sacred space within the heart (spirit, this is where life, self-awareness is), a third element comes into being, i.e. both elements combined become a living soul. Consider the following:
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
It seems that the "Sacred space within the heart” and the “Sacred Geometry”, as you said, "represents the same reality on different planes". It seems to point to that direction. One is physical (Sacred Geometry) and the other spiritual (Sacred space within the heart).
They are real in their own proper planes, i.e. one is physical in nature (our time space reality or Sacred Geometry) the other is spiritual in nature (spirit world or the Sacred space within the heart).
The word 'heart' has many different meanings. Consider these few definition;
Heart 1) is the primary organ of the blood's motion ... situated in the thorax. From this organ all the arteries arise...
2) The inner part of any thing; the middle part or interior;
4) The seat of the affections and passions, as of love, joy, grief, enmity, courage, pleasure &c.
The bible states in Jeremiah 17:9-10: 9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? 10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
We read of an honest and good heart, and an evil heart of unbelief, a willing heart, a heavy heart, sorrow of heart, a hard heart, a proud heart, a pure heart. The heart faints in adversity, or under discouragement, that is, courage fails; the heart is deceived, enlarged, reproved, lifted up, fixed, established, moved, etc.
6) The seat of the understanding; as an understanding heart. We read of men wise in heart, and slow of heart.
7) The seat of the will; hence, secret purposes, intentions or designs. Sometimes heart is used for the will, or determined purpose. Ecclesiastes 8:11 says, "Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil."
As you can see, the major definition seems to revolve around the inner most part of you (man). This is where all the action seems to be. Your mind, thoughts, reasoning's, beliefs, will, thinking, self-awareness, etc. It is the workshop of all our actions and reactions, our wheelings and dealings.
Jesus said in Matthew 15:18-20 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man... (Context: Following religious tradition rather than what God said in his written word. Matthew 15:1-20)
That's why we are warned in Proverbs 4:23 Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.
As we have seen, our feelings of emotions do not come from the physical zone of man's heart. We may feel it physically but it originates within your innermost being or the Sacred space within the heart.
In Genesis 2:21,22, God did take a bone from the proximity of man's physical heart.
You are mixing the two meanings of the word heart and using it inter-changeably, i.e. the organ of the heart with the seat of the emotions, will, etc. You cannot use the term heart here inter-changeably. Again, one is on the physical plane the other is purely spirit.
The spiritual application of Genesis 22 can be used, as you stated, "Maybe because the rib is located in the zone of heart".
To expand a bit further this spiritual application, God did not create woman from a bone of man's foot, that he should walk all over her. God did not create woman from a bone of man's head that woman should walk all over man. God create woman from a bone of man's side. That which is to be the closest thing to man's heart, also that they may both walk side by side.
Concerning the point you made about John 19, it was prophesied Psalm 34:20 that not a bone of Jesus' legs would be broken, "He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken."
You also mentioned
It was not symbolic. When a man is thrust through with a blade under the fifth rib, that is instant death. the blade cuts through the heart puncturing through the heart chambers. If Jesus was not dead, before that stab he would surely be after it. That was why the Roman soldier did that, to ensure he was dead and not faking it.
You are right when you said,
The reason water and blood came out after the stabbing is because
1) The pericardial sac was perforated. This is a double walled layer of tissue which surrounds the heart. The pocket between the layers is filled with pericardial fluid, which acts as a lubricant, allowing the heart and visceral pericardium to move around inside the outer layer of the pericardial sac with each heartbeat. The fluid is water like.
The prophecy in Psalm 22:14 was being fulfilled: "I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint, my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels."
2) When Jesus' heart was perforated the last amount of blood in the ventricles just gushed out. This was the last place where his blood was being held. Had he been stabbed else where in the body, no blood would have come out. As you stated, there was no more blood circulation.
I do not think so. The seed of life is on the physical plane and the Spirit of life is spiritual.
Hope this helps
As per Gleams request I am re-posting the link I originally had.
answered 17 May '10, 08:08
Thank you the answer.It is a wondeful, well elaborated, serious, generous and worth stuff. You don't lose sight any subsequent questions. Your qnawer supports what it says that "Bible is an ALIVE book".In the most respects I agree with you, but not just in all (this seems me to be "normaly", each of us have the own mental and... heart!), About this I will write after the term of bounty. You had at the end a link to a very interesting site. I saved it for me, but, please, put it again for turning to account of many people, together with your answer.
(18 May '10, 08:42) Gleam
I accepted gladly your answer for bounty. and my daring is rewarded: your answer is wonderful and the readers was enough much. Thank you!!!
(19 May '10, 14:34) Gleam
A few mention: You are Frank and I am frank; the link which was prezent on your answer for only a few hours, had disappear. No matter why. But it don't was under copyright and I like it. Then I will put it on my answer.
(19 May '10, 14:44) Gleam
Hi Gleam, I have re-posted the link for you. Thank you for your nice compliment and accepting my answer. I'm glad I was able to shed more light on your question. As per the bible, in all my personal study of it and comparing it to other philosophies and ideas, I can conclude and summarize by saying,it is God's manual to mankind for this life (and plane we are living in) and for the next life to come. Also, I agree with your statement that the bible is a book that is alive.
(20 May '10, 03:58) Frank 1
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Recently, I've become increasingly fascinated by the works of Dan Winter.
His demonstrations of the links between Sacred Geometry and Reality Creation are really quite mind-bending.
I've been interested in metaphysical subjects for many years but I feel like a complete beginner when I watch his lectures.
In a video of his I watched recently called Emotions, Sacred Geometry, & Extraterrestrial Life, he demonstrated how the shape and function of the heart is completely aligned with the principles of Sacred Geometry and fractals. Despite having a background in mathematical physics, it's all a bit over my head and I'm sorry but I can't really explain it...will have to watch it a few more times first.
I'm not sure I completely understand your question but I wonder if this information will perhaps help you a bit in finding what you want?
Mr Winter has a website at goldenmean.info and you can find some of his videos online here.
Hope that gives you some ideas.
answered 13 May '10, 21:14
(13 May '10, 22:34) Vesuvius
Greateful thanks for answer. A beautifully and worthily "breaking the ice" around the topic. Please, be gentle to try "translating" into current language the posted data and their significance, for being understadable for more users, I cannot do this on English. This will encourage others to think about and debate. This site and its users deserve this. Please and thank you in advance.
(13 May '10, 23:21) Gleam
The picture above is just from one of Dan Winter's lectures. I'm sorry but I can't really make it easier to understand because I am still trying to understand it myself :)
(15 May '10, 06:58) Stingray
(16 May '10, 16:44) ursixx
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I use the answer form for adding some informations which need space and links.
Yes, the notion of heart is used for many senses, some of them representing hierarchical levels of structure, function and significance. And in all regards, the heart holds a very special position comparatively with any other part (physical or spiritual) of human being.
Physicaly, excluding the brain, the heart is the only organ which possesses an autonomous nervous system, with an independent functionement, very partially and difficultly controlled voluntarily. (However possible with much perseverent training). See sequences of the heart own "brain" at:
This endowment assures the quikly, quasi-instantaneously adjustmen to insider and outsider imperious needs, but not only. It is a premise for higher functions and more independence.
By the viewpoint of physics, energeticaly, the heart owns an individual toroidal field, separately from the toroidal field of the entire body, and included into it. whenever, the smoler toroid of heart is included in the biger toroid of body. their axix are paralell and separated by an interval of 7 cm, in the commor human life. The toroidal field of heart is not the heart chakra's vortex, but totally independent. If you realize the entering into the sacred space of heart, for this period of time, the two axix of two toroids (body and heart) are coincident. More details, diagrams, technics to enter into sacred soace within the heart, can be finded in the book "Living in the Heart, How to Enter into the Sacred Space within the Heart" by Drunvalo Melchizedek and at:
By functionment of state of "living in the heart" we are inan enough advanced stade of enlidhtening. Until here, is possible only the creatin (manifesting) within the mmental. The mind know only the duality and can create only dual things, even if the intention is pozitive: welth and lack of money, love and hate, etc., this is why often we want one and receive the reversal or nothing. The heart know only the oneness, it know create only higher (as frequency) than the dimensional level of duality, resulting exactly the lntended. This is the co-creation of heart connected to mind. Tp enter into Sacred Space of Heart is the "work" of Spirit, wnen the real enlightening reaches an enough high vibrational level, Read about in tha named book of Drunvalo Melchizedek.
From this level of co-creation, starts the stade of "Ascending". Here enter in the "scene" the activated Mer-Ka-Ba (Here is the Sacred Geometry!) interacting with the Heart. For the followin level of ascendin, please read the book mentioned and see:
The last link is from Hank
I'm sorry for the so abrupt end of subject. I don't want risking to induce misunderstanding because my awkward English.
Conclusion. See the unmeasurable way from the human heart shape inscripted into genom (seed of life) to the Spirit of Life, very, very far as level, but prezent into us. This almost incredible miracle seems to be the Graal of each of us.
Be blessed on your way "per aspera ad astra".
answered 20 May '10, 03:06
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The only correlation might be that both concepts have the word "sacred" in their name.
@Vesuvius. It's true, the question isn't about the "sacred" wheel for manifesting welth, but the above comment seems no to be the your.
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