I've heard a few interpretations of Him and the Gospel in my time, and I wanna hear any other ideas you might have, be them religious doctrine or personal takes.
All answers welcome.
asked 29 Oct '12, 21:15
In Him all thngs exist, in Him we live and move and have our being,when Christ who is our life appears....i dont believe in a physical Christ anymore, i dont believe Christ is historically true but eternally true.
Im beginning to see why paul said he had stopped looking at Christ from a human point of view.
Im beginning to see that Christ, or ultimate pure consciousness is really ALL that there is.Theres nothing outside of Christ and nothing else. The bible states that in Him ALL things CONSIST, physical ( or perceived as physical ),spiritual,good ,bad ( or perceived as such ) simply put there isnt anything else but Christ.
The bible contains 4th dimensional truths enclosed within 3 dimensional stories. Most people read the story of Christ in a 3 dimensional way . And in doing so end up believing in a God/Christ outside of themselves. They ignore the power naturally housed within them, create havoc in their own lives and the lives of others, and then rush of to church and pray to a god that doesnt exist in the often vain hope that he will sort things out for them.
Thats an alternative perspective for you i think.
answered 30 Oct '12, 04:10
Another alternative viewpoint is that the character of Jesus was actually a group of people: Who do you say that Jesus is/was?
answered 30 Oct '12, 11:54
If you are coming from a traditional Christian perspective, I can offer the following.
I was raised as an agnostic. During my mid 20s I had some experiences which proved to me that there was a "spritual side" to the Universe, and caused me to look into things more deeply. I first started delving into the eastern traditions, and only after that began studying Christianity.
One seeming disparity I have found between my own reading of the New Testament, and what seems to be a commonly held "modern" interpretation of the gospels, is the emphasis placed on the divinity of Christ versus the inherent divinity of man.
It's sometimes difficult to get too deeply into this without receiving accusations of heresy, but...
The more I read the New Testament, the more these statements just jump off the page wherein Jesus is trying to make humanity understand the inherent divine power within them to accomplish anything. These quotes and statements are so numerous as to require a book in themselves, but if you feel like doing a little reading, you could check out these:
I feel that a lot (not all) of mainstream modern Christianity focuses on emphasizing and celebrating the divinity of Christ---"worship", if you will---and paying much less attention to the inherent divinity which man is able to realize through God or "source"--which is ironically a huge part of the message that Jesus was trying to impart--and in very unambiguous terms:
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." (John 1:13)
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." (John 14:12)
I have some close friends who come from a "modern" Christian background, and many of them seem very uncomfortable with these ideas. They regard the attempt to do such "great works" as heretical, and asking for things in prayer as "selfish"...even though Jesus himself commands his followers to ask for things in prayer.
This is pure speculation on my part, but I think it likely that these ideas were de-emphasized during the early history of the church, simply because it wasn't in the interest of the "powers that be" to have the multitudes running around realizing divine powers.
In short, by elevating the "divine" to an unreachable pedestal, our separation with, rather than our union with, the divine has been emphasized historically...a trend which seems to have continued up until the present day.
I think that celebrating and thinking about the divinity of Christ is a wonderful thing, but I feel that the other angle (his message regarding humankind's own divinity) could perhaps use a tad more emphasis.
Thankfully, that's part of what Inward Quest is for. :)
answered 30 Oct '12, 11:41
Just read thru that answer, nicely put.
(31 Oct '12, 03:30) Monty Riviera
@Monty Riviera - Thanks!
(31 Oct '12, 14:44) lozenge123
Jesus, Buddha and Krishna all realized their true nature, an expression of the collective consciousness of humanity. As such, they offered reflections of that true nature as an example and a gift to to humanity.
They never said: "follow me." They said: "Be like me because you are like me!"
The rest is his-story, the story of male domination, be it through religion, politics or money; it's all an expression of man's negative ego-self, which really boils down to man's ignorance and self importance :(
answered 08 Nov '12, 19:55
i am the way the truth and the life, i am the door. i am the light of the world. to go to heaven the kingdom of light you need to be born of water and spirit. why do you wash the out side of the cup you should clean the inside(meditate). that is where the darkness is that is the iniquite the lack of balence and knowledge in truth. so make your water calm see the reflection of the light and learn from the light that you are until there is no more duality when there is no more duality,you will be born of water and will be born of spirit once the water and the light becomes one you will realise that you where the light all along. then you can go above back to the kingdom of light. and the pure of heart will see god and the peace maker will become son of God. so let there be light, be the light that you can be, experience and enjoy.
answered 29 Oct '12, 23:38
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