Why did Jesus choose that moment to demonstrate His true nature? What does all mean?

Jai in the hospital (2-25-13)

asked 25 Feb '13, 00:50

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edited 25 Feb '13, 00:54

Water means spiritual wisdom. Wine means joy. Blood means attention. You link the dots.

(25 Feb '13, 17:27) flowsurfer
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Well Jai, as usual i consider this question from a symbolic point of view ... water becoming wine brings to light the life giving power of water on earth, it's an essential element for all living things, think of the way that a vine plant absorbs goodness from the earth, as do all plants, so as to produce succulent grapes which in turn produce wine juice. Wine juice then almost mysteriously ferments to produce wine ... this excites my admiration, a miracle of nature.


answered 25 Feb '13, 03:41

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ru bis

I may very well name my next boat " see the wine "

Its always been my favourite miracle Jai, its symbolic and meaningfull on a dozen levels.

Firstly the people drawing the water saw just that....water...plain old water. Christ "saw " wine. He looked beyond 3 dimensional reasoning and saw the wine, whilst many saw only water.

Also i know from personal experince, and many hangovers, that wine is the result of fermentation, which takes linear time to produce. Christ overcame the time element, he overcame science and reasoning. Even the experts of 2000 years ago knew enough about chemistry to know that wine takes time.

Also the wine was vintage in quality and strength, no cheap end of night plonk, this was the stuff you gave out at the beginning of the celebration.

To me the lesson is that by seeing beyond the 3 dimensional you can effect and alter it. It involves mastery of this dimension by looking to another one.



answered 25 Feb '13, 04:09

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Monty Riviera

Great answer! I mentioned the Last Supper because Christ transfigured the wine into His blood. It seems to complete the circle. Thanks!

(25 Feb '13, 07:05) Jaianniah

People where to drunk he passed them water for wine.And they all agreed that it was tasting better then the wine they add before(and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.). he told them that he was not ready.(“Woman,[a] why do you involve me?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.” http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+2%3A1-11&version=NIV)

This verse of the gnostic Gospel of thomas can explain what it means: Jesus said, "I took my stand in the midst of the world, and in flesh I appeared to them. I found them all drunk, and I did not find any of them thirsty. My soul ached for the children of humanity, because they are blind in their hearts and do not see, for they came into the world empty, and they also seek to depart from the world empty. http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html

also about water do you remember what he said to the women at the well?

Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water."but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life." http://bible.cc/john/4-10.htm

What did he say to nicodemus?

Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.


What is the water that you can walk on?O men of little faith,why do you doubt?

He said, "Come." So Peter got out of the boat, started walking on the water, and came toward Jesus. {30} But when he noticed the strong wind, he became frightened, and beginning to sink, he cried out, "Lord, save me!" {31} Jesus immediately reached out his hand and caught him, saying to him, "You of little faith, why did you doubt?" (Matthew 14:29-31)

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If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?


As for the last supper he makes a metaphore comparing the wine to is blood and the bread to is body and share it with is disciple,because he knew that is time add come and that they would kill him.So it was the last time they could share is presence in the flesh.

Remember what jesus said to nicodemus,the flesh is flesh and the spirit is spirit.

Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.



answered 25 Feb '13, 20:16

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white tiger

edited 25 Feb '13, 20:25

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