Consider: And does this means that you no longer have to meditate to prove your progress?

asked 14 Mar '11, 02:22

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vee it is not the amount that counts one can meditate all is life and achieve nothing! what he does while meditating and the result that he achieve while meditating is for him the measure of where he is at! if you ask this question is because you are not there yet! so continue and you will find out!


answered 14 May '11, 08:08

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white tiger

edited 16 May '11, 13:51

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Thank you for sharing your point, and I enjoy reading your answer!

(17 May '11, 05:06) Inactive User ♦♦

Measurements are just egotistical gauges to validate our position.

Might I add that I do not meditate for progress, I meditate for the moments that I meditate.


answered 14 May '11, 08:39

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edited 17 May '11, 00:24

"egotistical gauges"... I gotta remember that one :)

(17 May '11, 00:48) Michaela

I think it is no different from asking; are the hours spent in the gym proof of physical perfection?

Where the person asking the question is assuming that if one spends enough effort towards physical perfection, then it must result in a crossing of an invisible threshold and into a region of super human ability.


answered 14 May '11, 16:45

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The Traveller

Well said, thank you!

(17 May '11, 04:56) Inactive User ♦♦

no ,, no matter how well you are connected to higher self,, the work is NEVER done! basically if you want to keep growing a plant outside would it ever stop needing water because it is mature? NO , it will ALWAYS need food for growth just as we do! the way to measure the benefits of your meditation is NOTHING to do with hours, it has to do with the personal growth, the issues in where you develop. none of us can ever use time to measure it,, you will see the growth by others seeing your spiritual and emotional growth! the ones who seem most enlightened will usually be the very 1st to admit that they need work !

love n light,



answered 14 May '11, 18:36

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TReb Bor yit-NE

edited 16 May '11, 13:50

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Your answer is very informative, and inspiring, and I agree. Thank you.

(17 May '11, 05:03) Inactive User ♦♦

ty vee,, u are so happy and loving,, i love u 4 that . love n light, rob

(17 May '11, 13:36) TReb Bor yit-NE

Meditation is a tool we use to expand our awareness. This expanded awareness is the key to spiritual growth... we cannot change anything if we are unaware of it. We should not meditate to prove anything to anyone, but rather to enhance our own growth which in turn will positively impact how we live our life and treat those we interact with.


answered 17 May '11, 00:43

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Yes, we should meditate for the right reasons, and of course to enhance our spiritual growth! Thank you.

(17 May '11, 05:09) Inactive User ♦♦

You're welcome :)

(17 May '11, 16:19) Michaela

You have said variations of the word "proof" twice.

Is this really what you want to know? Is this what you are seeking, Vee?

Spiritual progress is tricky. It is kind of like trying to see your shadow, and measure it. You always need someone else to do it.

We all seek spiritual progress. I think everybody wants that. The only thing I can say is when you no longer care about "making it", but instead, find yourself busy trying to do all the things that God asks of you, you have made some progress.

Do you feel spiritually hungry? Good! That is progress! Do you want to know everything there is to know right now...well, that takes a lifetime. Look at the 12 Steps of the Program of Alcoholics Anonymous. Read them, and try to figure out where you are on that list. That's as close to a measuring stick as I can give to anyone.

Meditation is good. But it is not exactly a by-product of spirituality- it is a way to calm the spirit and mind. Buddhists look for Nirvana, a place of Nothingness and Everything all at lack of ego. I, myself, do not meditate every day. but I do pray. Browse this site, still your mind, take a deep breath, and then think, think, think. Meditation is only a tool.

Good Luck, and Bless You! Love, Jaianniah


answered 14 Mar '11, 04:17

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quite right Jai! meditation is only a tool

(14 Mar '11, 08:33) daniele

@Jai: I like your approach to answering the question, and I learn something new every time! Thank you for pointing my oversight.

(15 Mar '11, 06:20) Inactive User ♦♦

the proof may be the way you react in your interventions with other people,
not usually something time in meditation provides.


answered 17 May '11, 00:04

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Well said on the 1st line Fred, but I have to disagree with the 2nd... From personal experience, I would say the 'expanded awareness' I have gained from my meditation practice has given me the ability to step back and take the time to respond in my interactions as opposed to automatically reacting :)

(17 May '11, 00:47) Michaela

@ fred: We are spiritual beings, and our behavior as to how we interact with each does speaks volumes as humans, but on the contrary, it is not important to spent time to develop the discipline to quite the mind in meditation? Thank you.

(17 May '11, 05:23) Inactive User ♦♦

vee, what is important is our interactions with others, what assists you may not be suited for another.

(18 May '11, 11:12) fred
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