And why did Jesus disagree with the Scribes that Elijah must come first, and how does John the Baptist fits into this controversy?

asked 17 Feb '10, 07:41

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edited 17 Feb '10, 18:46

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Ah - Chariots of Fire. A wonderful topic.

Elijah could have been taken up into the heavens in a spacecraft .. and maybe can return the same way... given that time is different under certain circumstances. Aliens are ofter depicted as beings of light, and beings of light were usually described as angels in sacred literature. (And a being of light did appear to the Mother of Jesus, and other notable mothers in the Bible).

But my understanding is that Jesus was referring to St John the Baptist as the reincarnating Elijah. Spirit is Light to our eyes and Elijah's Light was now inhabiting another physical body.

A belief in reincarnation was common at that time, even Jesus made reference to it..

Matthew 16:13-17 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

What if at the heart of the smallest particle all there was was Light?
What if that Light was Intelligence Itself. Life, Light, Truth. ?


answered 17 Feb '10, 23:57

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I'm actually about halfway through a book that is about John the Baptist, Jesus, and Mary Magdeline. One of the chapters that I havent gotten to yet is titled John Christ so I'll make sure to come back and edit in what I find out when I finish the book.

The author shows how some of Leonardo da Vinci's paintings may point to John the Baptist being more important than Jesus such as "Adoration of the Magi", and "Madonna of the Rocks".

P.S. the book is called The Templar Revelation.


answered 17 Feb '10, 23:26

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well according to the prophecies elijah was to return before the messiah would begin his ministry. so from a prophetical perspective his return before the messiah was necsissary. BUT apperntly this will not happen till the SECOND coming, something that the jews at that time were not aware of. see you have to remmember the jews were waiting for a man in a POWERFUL position, some one who would be their king and give them freedom etc. so when jesus arrived they totally disapproved him. becuase according to them he was not "messiah material" if this makes sense. jesus came in a humble manner and was amungst the poor, totally OPPOSITE of what the jews were expecting. so obviously they did not accept him. but what they failed to realise is jesus fullfilled over 300 of the other prophecies reggarding the messiah, they were just (and still are) to blind to realise that.



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