As almost every war and terrorism act in the world has been caused by religious people, causing mass negativity around the world, millions of people slaughtered in the name of religion, people giving away their own internal and external power etc to religion, allowing religious beliefs to control them.

If all religious people were put down would this allow true energies to engulf the world and create true peace, full health and happiness?

asked 28 Nov '12, 02:18

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edited 28 Nov '12, 03:02

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1 (insert favorite deity instead of just magic baby) ;)

(28 Nov '12, 02:50) ursixx

You want true peace, yet you're quick to point your finger and blame.

(28 Nov '12, 02:56) CalonLan

The Rhythm of religion plays a key part in this Perfect Unfolding.

(28 Nov '12, 08:00) Roy

Religions are just beliefs, and we all have those. What you're describing is ridding the world of people you don't agree with... which is the exact thing many of these people you're talking about did, believing it would bring "true happiness and peace to the world."

One step in the right direction is, instead, acceptance of others and understanding. Cooperating and communicating instead of blaming and killing.

(28 Nov '12, 13:06) LapisLazuli

Perhaps one step in the right direction is understanding why people need a crutch and give their power away, and do something about it.

(29 Nov '12, 05:02) Wazza

Yes, that would be much better than choosing war, fear, or blame, or ridding the world of specific people.

In order to guide someone in a new direction, you must communicate and speak to them from their level of understanding.Placing blame and hate or attacking them never helps them, it only intensifies the situation.

I feel places like IQ ARE helping people utilize their own power and realize peace and love begins within; not without. :)

(29 Nov '12, 08:02) LapisLazuli

@Wazza, Why people need a crutch and give their power away? Such question would lead you to many seemingly different answers,yet all of them would be same in their nature.Fast forwarding all the contemplating to the point->the reason people need a crutch and give their power away,is because of the very concept of needing a crutch and giving their power away has been taught and suggested and imprinted in the way we are brought up it may appear natural we need crutches and that others know...

(29 Nov '12, 08:38) CalonLan

...better. The very act of allowing this concepts existence gives it power to self-fulfill its potential. You can see its use in many ways on every plane of life. Problem mainly being that people are continuously pressed against the wall, not having enough space to breath and think for themselves. Opinions are imposed on them and with very little options, they cannot but accept them.

If you don't give a person freedom to exercise his mind and own thinking, he won't even be aware of such option.

(29 Nov '12, 08:46) CalonLan

...let alone use it. And today's world is designed in such manner, that it very sneakily prevents people from thinking for themselves. It gives you illusion of options, but the "system" itself chooses which options are suitable.

It gives you options "within certain border". Freedom "within certain borders". Which paradoxically defies the nature of freedom.

In short and in general, there would be much more to say if we went into details.

(29 Nov '12, 08:52) CalonLan

Brilliant @CalonLan :)

(29 Nov '12, 16:27) LapisLazuli
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That would be the same thing that they are doing. It would not be different. Peace starts within and cannot be forced. If the religious people were truely following their god's ways, they would love their enemies and pray for those who hurt them and treat others the way they would want to be treated. Then, there would be no need for war.

If someone is truely vibrating at a higher frequency, they won't want to kill people who disagree with them. In order to want to kill others, one's own vibration must match that of one who would kill. If the one who killed all the religious people were to set the vibration for all that remained, they would all have the vibration of a killer.


answered 28 Nov '12, 10:37

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"That would be the same thing they are doing." - I absolutely agree. :)

(28 Nov '12, 12:55) LapisLazuli

What you are saying is you don't mind if a terrorist kills your family, you would just sit back and let them do it. Fear and control control most.

(29 Nov '12, 05:09) Wazza

I don't create a reality in which terror happens. When I realized that I didn't like the reality that I was creating, I changed it. I am still learning how to create the reality that I do want. Two Hands Touching is helping more than any other technique or tool.

(29 Nov '12, 09:19) Fairy Princess

Look for what you want.

(29 Nov '12, 09:20) Fairy Princess

Since we each create our own reality, then if you are living in terror, you must look inside and change your beliefs so that you can change your reality.

(29 Nov '12, 09:21) Fairy Princess

@Fairy Princess - Right on!

(29 Nov '12, 18:31) Dollar Bill
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You would be leaving out these people and/or groups, which (although they might not all be termed Atheists) led distinctly non-religious wars of oppression and perpetrated atrocities:

Adolf Hitler

Benito Mussolini

Joseph Stalin

Mao Zedong

Pol Pot

The Red Brigades

Red Army Faction

Than Shwe

Kim Jong Il

I agree with you that religion has been used an excuse to butcher and oppress millions, but ridding the world of religion will not solve our problems. I think to root out violence in the world you'd have to get at the root of something deeper.

I think it's also important to note that some religious individuals have played a positive role in the development of human culture and the world.

For instance, what about all those Irish monks who helped preserve countless classical works of antiquity, while Europe was being pillaged and destroyed by barbarians? We might not have the great books of Pythagoras, Euclid, Plato, or the many other philosophers and Hermeticists, if not for them.

I think attributing all our troubles to a group or class of people, whether they be a particular religion, or all religions, or all atheists, etc., is just the same dualistic form of thinking which got us into this trouble in the first place. It's the "us versus them" mentality of the two party system, of Christians versus Muslims, of Catholics versus Protestants, of Capitalists versus Socialists, of Rich versus Poor, of Rebels versus Loyalists, of Patriots versus Traitors, of the Religious versus the Atheistic.

If we really want to solve the violence and other problems in the world, I think we need to stop looking to oustiders, or "groups" or "classes" to pin the blame on.

“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

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answered 28 Nov '12, 12:39

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Good answer, I like that you brought up the people/groups who weren't tied to a religion. It helps illustrate how religion isn't the only reason people kill/create wars or attack each other. Religion, too, brings a lot of peace and stability to many people. It isn't the idea itself, it's just the way some interpret it.

(28 Nov '12, 13:37) LapisLazuli

Excellent answer Lozenge.

(28 Nov '12, 16:59) Catherine

Why have religous people have to be the ones to do something good. Why can't they just do it themselves and be proud of what they do in their own name.

(29 Nov '12, 05:05) Wazza

@Wazza there is light in a person of light and it shines on the whole world if not it is dark. and i am not talking about the hypocrites,who wash only the outside of the cup. those hypocrites have darkness in them self and are trying to foul the people that are blind and see only the outside of the cup. those hypocrites all want to be first out of self-rightenous and they will be last.

(29 Nov '12, 14:18) white tiger

@Wazza - I'm not 100% clear about your question, but it's difficult to talk about the motives of "religious people" as a whole, given their vastness and diversity. Motives for adopting/sticking with a religion can range from the noble and spiritual, to the greedy and self-righteous. Both Tomas de Torquemada and Brother Lawrence can be considered "Religious" Catholics...and how different they were!

(29 Nov '12, 15:08) lozenge123

@Catherine - Thanks! And @LapisLazuli - agreed!

(29 Nov '12, 15:08) lozenge123
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Interesting question and especially the answers.

We each live in a world of our own and have the right and power to maintain that world. The "Logical" questions and answers are from different worlds. For instance there are no terrorists in my world. There are good, joyful people.

If you focus on terrorists, you will have terrorists. If you focus on religion being a detrimental force, it will be one for you! If you focus on people unfolding and expanding their consciousness, that will be your world.

If you try to focus on changing another person through arguments (I reaize I am dangerously close to this, here), you will suffer. YOU will suffer. And it just won't work!

Don't know about you Questers reading this, but I needed to hear it this morning!

We are much more powerful than we have been accustomed to think.


answered 29 Nov '12, 08:06

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"We each live in a world of our own and have the right and power to maintain that world." You said it perfectly :) Thank you!

(29 Nov '12, 08:17) LapisLazuli

yes, keep the focus on wanted positive things. The downward spiral is a trick, so avoid it and take the upward spiral.

(29 Nov '12, 08:30) clearheart

dollar bill, we are each in this world as a guest with, as yet, untapped power, but play paper, rock and scissors instead of consciousness awareness

(29 Nov '12, 15:14) fred

To be free is to have no belief structures at all. We are programmed from before birth and after birth by parents etc which unconsciously lead our path. If we can understand that, we can remove the belief structures controlling us and be free of religous beliefs or any other belief controlling us and the world energies are freed of wars, terrorism and controlled hate.

(29 Nov '12, 17:58) Wazza

@Dollar Bill -- lol! interesting is a very 'interesting' word!

I hope @Wazza posts an answer to his own question. I wonder Wazza, have your views changed any after reading all these very inspired answers?

(03 Dec '12, 04:46) ele
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as long as there are beliefs
of entitlement and elitism
there will be battles

if religions would be more spiritual
that would help stop the killing


answered 28 Nov '12, 19:25

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Unfortunately it is difficult for brain washed people to become spiritual, so your suggestion, being good, most likely cannot happen.

(29 Nov '12, 04:59) Wazza

wazza, as long as the light glows and they are alive change can occur. if not more are returned for recyclying at the next exhale

(29 Nov '12, 15:06) fred

Before posting another question, I suggest you take a few minutes and do a bit of research. Your question is NOT based on any facts. According to The encyclopedia of Wars, ONLY 7% of all wars have been termed "religious wars".

I cannot give you an exact percentage in regards to acts of terrorism by 'religious people'; but I can say with certainty you are NOT correct - most acts of terrorism don't have anything to do with religion. (If you have any doubts, type your question into a search engine)

'Put Down' has multiple meanings and I'm not clear how you define it. No matter your definition, I don't think you will be successful in 'putting down' 93.5% of the world's population.


I feel you missed my point. The causes of war are many. Religion may be a factor; but religion is absolutely NOT the cause of most wars or can you attribute all acts of terrorism to religion.

I didn't answer your question earlier because I could not imagine anyone seriously contemplating this or even having such thoughts. The question you asked seems to be the type a troll would ask in order to incite & inflame. I hope your question was sincere and you genuinely want an answer because I'm going to share my thoughts with you.

Even if you were successful and you were able to "put down" every man, woman and child who identifies themselves with any particular religion or however you define "religious" people, it will NOT stop war.

It is my personal belief, the actual cause for most acts of terrorism as well as the underlying basis for countless wars is human beings who are vibrating at a lower fear based level, who do not practice Gratitude and who lack REVERENCE for Life.

War like nearly everything else in life is an energy exchange. War is due to actions and reactions and actions and reactions become energy. When energy is set in motion it creates our experiences and in this case, it's the experience of war.

As long as there are individuals on earth who do not choose to change their vibrations to the higher frequencies of love, compassion & joy, they will have no desire for harmony or peace. Until they do, there will always be discord, conflict and war.

If you have tendencies towards anger, violence or harming others, they will cease to exist if you practice GRATITUDE and approach & regard life with an attitude of REVERENCE.

We have the power to create our own world & choose our experiences. Fill your heart and your mind with loving thoughts of kindness & compassion and your experiences will change.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. If we all do this, war COULD NOT exist.


answered 29 Nov '12, 04:12

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I suggest before answering a question you read it. Its a good idea to get the correct figures for the question.

(29 Nov '12, 04:56) Wazza

you said "As almost every war and terrorism act in the world" - "ALMOST EVERY". Check out my links for percentages... Have a nice day!

(29 Nov '12, 05:07) ele

Read the question, there is nothing in it about religious wars.

(29 Nov '12, 05:30) Wazza

Um . . . you said "As almost every war and terrorism act in the world has been caused by religious people"

Now I'm going - have to get some sleep....

(29 Nov '12, 05:33) ele

"L" @ele - missed you. Glad to see you are back!

(29 Nov '12, 08:08) Dollar Bill

@ele ! Welcome back!!:)

(29 Nov '12, 08:18) LapisLazuli

If 93.5 percent of the population are religous then 93 percent of the worlds problems are caused by religous people, your figures, not mine.

(29 Nov '12, 17:48) Wazza

If it is as you have said, 93 percent of people are religious, your figures, then religous people are the cause of over 90 percent of the worlds problems.

(30 Nov '12, 18:16) Wazza

@Wazza IQ does not send notification of edits to your email. I edited my answer to answer your question.

(02 Dec '12, 02:35) ele

@LapisLazuli Thanks for the cheery welcome! You made me laugh. Love it! I was never really gone. I've been here the entire time; just being quiet and listening. Sometimes one has to be still to really hear. IQ is the most awesome reality program ever created & it's on 24/7! I love my view from the observation deck and I learned a lot in my role as 'observer'; but I also missed commenting on so many of your amazing Q & A as well as other awesome Q & A. Feels good to speak again. Thank you!

(02 Dec '12, 02:37) ele

@Dollar Bill Thank you so much for the warm welcome - very much appreciated. I have to admit I had to muster the utmost amount of restraint not to comment on your Q & A. Numerous times I felt like you were speaking directly to me. It was eerie how many times you said exactly what I had been thinking only a few hours earlier.

(02 Dec '12, 02:39) ele

@Dollar Bill Speaking strictly from an observer's POV, I saw your not so kind interactions with another user & before my eyes you turned into a pompous a$$. (No disrespect intended) I nearly came back to tell you what it looks like from the outside; but you chose to see this person in a different light. I cheered you on & I applaud you for doing so & continuing to do so. Brilliant strategy on your part. Do you play chess? lol

(02 Dec '12, 02:41) ele

@ele - we all have our differnt POVs. It is through our realtionships with others that we define ourselves.

(02 Dec '12, 04:55) Dollar Bill

@Dollar Bill I meant NO offense. You showed great strength of character and much fortitude & still do. I can delete my comment.

(02 Dec '12, 05:00) ele

@ele - I did not take your comment as offensive.

(02 Dec '12, 18:11) Dollar Bill

What did you learn by observing without interracting?

(02 Dec '12, 18:46) Fairy Princess

@Dollar Bill - - Good! I didn't really think so; but I wanted to make sure. I think I absorbed too much negative energy by trying to connect with this user & by giving way too much thought to his heartless question. It affected my mood & lowered my vibrations. Excellent reminder not to give your attention to anything you do not desire - - LOA

I'll get back to you @Fairy Princess..

(03 Dec '12, 04:32) ele

@ele, re-reading your answer made me reflect a bit on the history of war in my own country (USA), and realized that all of our deadliest wars (Civil War, World War I, World War II) had nothing to do with religion. American Civil War: 625,000 killed. WWI: 204,002 killed. WWII: 670,846 killed. Pretty much destroys any notion that (at least in my reality) eliminating religion would even put a dent in war, or world violence.

(03 Dec '12, 13:01) lozenge123

@lozenge123 Not only is your conclusion FACT, the US has NEVER been in any war where religion was the cause neither here nor abroad. As for WWII, over 60 million lives were lost worldwide & some estimates are closer to 80 million when you factor in the number of people who died due to war-related disease & famine. The US remained neutral till Dec 7, 1941 when FDR was left with no other choice.

(03 Dec '12, 20:09) ele

@lozenge123 If someone as intelligent as you wasn't sure, imagine how many people in the US as well as around the world also do not know for sure - or worse - actually have this false belief. I should have stuck with the facts & continued along those lines instead of trying to put a spiritual or LOA spin to it when I added to my answer. It was an opportunity to inform & educate. My PVP helps no one. Education is the first step in stopping war.

(03 Dec '12, 20:11) ele
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I think the idea is not be so involved in another's preference.If they try to include you in something you're not interested in the best idea is to say it straight out that you are not interested in discussing it.

For me this takes a lot of awareness because sometimes another will simply come up and start talking about things like I "should" be interested, sort of what's wrong with me that I don't want to be part of what makes them so excited.

It's preference and I'm just not into talking about hate or judgement I'm just not interested in wasting my time unless I'm fascinated by it.


answered 28 Nov '12, 07:29

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edited 28 Nov '12, 07:29

Are you fascinated.

(29 Nov '12, 05:10) Wazza

waza, certainly by plenty of things. This has been an interesting discussion for me. I have been fascinated to learn new ideas that give me opportunity to grow in a more positive way. Arguing about belief's is not fascinating to me.

(29 Nov '12, 07:13) clearheart

@clearheart you said:Arguing about belief's is not fascinating to me. and i agree with you about belief. because what you believe and what is true are not always the same thing. with understanding and truth you will progress in a positive way. sometime people argue and judge because of belief or lack of understanding and truth. could it be that they missed something? or that they have stopped learning out of ego? example they might say to you: i am older then you,you cannot show me annything.-

(30 Nov '12, 18:49) white tiger

or they will say you do not do that work so you cannot show me. yet they do the same,and speak about what they know and testify to what they have seen. so when they do that they do not respect them self and other.and have stopped and put a limit on their understanding and truth.

(01 Dec '12, 06:49) white tiger
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you are attacking the wrong problem. the real problem is the darkness. the darkness affect you from the outside and from the inside. from the outside when it comes from someone else. and from the inside when it comes from your self. so wash the inside of the cup and make your water pure. but i am telling you if you live by the sword you will die by the sword. the only sword you should use is the sword of truth. the truth shall set you free. there is light in a person of light and it shines on the whole world if not it is dark. so let there be light, Be the light that you can Be, experience and enjoy.

added some music for you.


answered 28 Nov '12, 22:03

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edited 28 Nov '12, 22:32

Has religion created the darkness.

(29 Nov '12, 05:11) Wazza

@white tiger - VERY well said. There is a profundity and depth to your answer, "darkness affect you from the outside and from the inside. from the outside when it comes from someone else. and from the inside when it comes from your self. so wash the inside of the cup " and there can be no darkness. Let the Light of Truth shine!

Begin by washing the inside.

(29 Nov '12, 07:52) Dollar Bill

@wazza no the religion as not created darkness. many in religion try to fight darkness according to their understanding. but they have to understand this: the light came in to the world but the darkness as not understand it. and do not be surprise at my saying some will be first and will be last and some will be last and will be first.

(29 Nov '12, 12:32) white tiger

@Dollar Bill "Often you have desired to hear these sayings that I am speaking to you, and you have no one else from whom to hear them. There will be days when you will seek me and you will not find me."

(29 Nov '12, 12:38) white tiger

@Dollar Bill when these days comes use the door and the key that i have shown you. lift that rock and properly split that piece of wood and you will find me there.

(29 Nov '12, 14:03) white tiger

@white tiger - in the wind, you can't see it, just effects of it moving.

(29 Nov '12, 18:27) Dollar Bill

@Dollar Bill yes but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. it is like this for every one born of water and spirit.

(29 Nov '12, 22:02) white tiger
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You see my friend. You are talking about the Muslims, may be the catholic church. Peace cannot be made my making more wars. This is a lesson that will prove it self, when you read through history. More than 30,0000 wars in 3000 years. What happened?

You cant put down religious people.


answered 03 Dec '12, 13:09

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You know Psychologically speaking, people like you? who think they always have the answer and think they are better and nobler than others is the reason why this world in this condition. One group thinks they are better than the other. Each starts annihilating each other to prove their point. There is no much difference between a spiritual snob like you and a religious snobs like them. NO OFFENSE.

When we see people who want to change the world, or who brings out theories to "fix" the world, normally it says a lot about their personality than the problem they are trying to solve.

(03 Dec '12, 13:31) mastermind

@mastermind - You believe the person who asked this question is spiritual?

Aren't religious people spiritual also?

"30,0000 wars in 3000 years" --- link, please.

(03 Dec '12, 20:15) ele

To Ele, *There is a huge difference in being spiritual, religious-spiritual and religious. You cant say that an average Catholic priest is spiritual; What would he say if you are gay or a lesbian? What would Dalai lama say? he would just smile.

The difference is religion is a code of conduct. Spiritualism is an experience, the laws given in religion are experienced by the Spiritual person inwardly. The spiritual person is kind not because religion tells him to be, he is kind because he has killed in him self the need to be unkind or angry, he has gained understanding by his meditations and spiritual practices to be kind is good.*

I'm fairly certain the person who asked the question is spiritual. This is not the first time I've heard a new student to spirituality ask that question :)

(06 Dec '12, 02:33) mastermind2

"30,0000 wars in 3000 years"link, please. < Start counting from the Trojan War! I did! No links, sorry. I have also posted an answer below. Thank you :)

(06 Dec '12, 02:44) mastermind2

@mastermind2, the answers box should only be used to provide answers to the original question and is not intended for making comments. If you wish to make a comment on an existing answer, please click on the "Add New Comment" link available under each answer. Thanks. I'm converting your "answer" into a comment.

(06 Dec '12, 03:29) Barry Allen ♦♦

religous people are controlled and giving their power away to an unknown quantity. Spiritual people are keeping their own power and producing a true energy into the universe.

(06 Dec '12, 04:38) Wazza

@Wazza, "strong do eat, weak are meat"... and this paradigm is to be found in everything and on every plane. Going to church for example, those who go to church in search of answers are weak, those who give them the answers are strong and in control. Contradictory to teaching a man to fish, church will only give you the fish, so you come back for more. Business is the same, employer won't teach you to do business, but will give you work only. They control others because they fear.

(06 Dec '12, 04:47) CalonLan

It's the fear that causes all troubles. And fear is to be found in almost everyone. But we don't strive to get rid of it, instead we give into illusions we have created to keep us occupied so we don't have to face ourselves.

Sarcastically speaking, light bulb was created only so that men don't have to stare into abyss of darkness and see the monsters they so much fear.

(06 Dec '12, 04:51) CalonLan


you said - "Start counting from the Trojan War! I did! No links, sorry"

Trojan Wars - lol! Love it! Thanks for the laugh & welcome to IQ. Your new persona is certainly more charming than your prior alter-ego.

Since you have already counted the number of wars in the last 3,000 years & have a tally, feel free to post your list anytime. I'm sure it will prove to be a fascinating read.

Thanks for taking the time to respond & sharing your thoughts with me.

(07 Dec '12, 04:19) ele

There is millions of wars going on everyday. And no, they're not always on physical plane, and not always they end in bloodshed of real blood. But in the very nature they are wars. They are acts of destruction.

But people don't count them, because they put a price tag only on physical body. But what is a body to someone with wiped out mental world, or spiritual, or intellectual.

There are many more ways to kill a person without putting a bullet through his head. Words, ideas, beliefs kill 2.

(07 Dec '12, 07:28) CalonLan

If mastermind say 30k wars in 3k years. I'd say at least 30 billion wars in 3k years.

(07 Dec '12, 07:29) CalonLan
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