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In the name Of Allah, the most compassionate most merciful.

The prophet related, that Allah the exalted has revealed: ' 'O My servants, I have made oppression forbidden for Myself and for you so do not oppress one another, O My servants, all of you are astray except those I have guided so seek guidance of Me and I shall guide you. O My servants , all of you are hungry except those I have fed so seek food of Me and I shall feed you. O My servants , all of you are naked except those I have clothed, so seek clothing of Me and I shall clothe you. O My servants, you sin by night and day, and I forgive all sins, so seek forgiveness of Me and I shall forgive you. O My servants, you will not attain harming Me so as to harm Me, nor will you attain benefiting Me so as to benefit Me. O My servants , were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to be pious as the most pious heart of any one man of you , that would not increase My kingdom in anything. O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you the human of you and the jinn of you to be the wicked as the most wicked heart of any one man of you, that would not decrease My kingdom in anything.

O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to gather in one place and each one would make a request of Me, and I shall fulfil each one's request, that would not decrease from My kingdom, anymore than a needle would decrease the sea if dipped into it.

O My servants, it is but your deeds that I reckon up for you and then recompense you for, so whomever finds good should praise Allah, and whoever finds other than that blame no one but themselves.'

May Allah bestow His mercy on us and guide us, and forgive us, ameen

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The guy is a control freak and likes to listen to himself. It's slapping my eyes almost in each sentence.

(21 Dec '12, 02:25) CalonLan

My servants, I have made oppression forbidden for Myself and for you so do not oppress one another. IHo this is a contraindication. to be a servant is to be oppressed..

(21 Dec '12, 02:48) ursixx

@ursixx it depends the servant can serve is master of is own free will then he is not oppressed. if the master force someone to be is servant then yes it is opression. it is the same in this world with king,leader,president,boss,goverment. the only power they have is the power given to them by their people.if their people are oppressed or forced eventualy they will be over thrown.

(21 Dec '12, 03:05) white tiger

look at jesus disciple they followed him of their own free will.I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.

(21 Dec '12, 03:06) white tiger

@white tiger, O My servants, all of you are astray except those I have guided so seek guidance of Me and I shall guide you. Ursixx is correct. This is clearly suggestive talk aimed at people's ego and playing the string of fear. Now lets read it again and put a little bit of spin to it...

O My servants, all of you are astray except those I have guided so seek guidance of Me and I shall guide you. - Adolf Hitler.

(21 Dec '12, 03:12) CalonLan

O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you the human of you and the jinn of you to be the wicked as the most wicked heart of any one man of you, that would not decrease My kingdom in might not decrease the kingdom in anything. but less will enter.since the darkness does not stand in the light. on less they remove their heart of stone they cannot tread the water and see the light.

(21 Dec '12, 03:15) white tiger

@calonlan there is more then right and wrong in this world. can you accept that 2 person can tell the truth? according to their own understanding? or do you need to pick one over the other? yes i agree with you that it is aimed at there ego their jinn or is talking about their wickedness against God or is kingdom,they want to harm God,saying that it cannot affect God or is kingdom. and that if they do not seek what is good,and only want to blame ,they can only blame them self.

(21 Dec '12, 05:51) white tiger

because they will only harm them self. as for adolf hitler he was opressing and he was over throw was he not? is it not what i have told you? seek guidance from what is good and true. what is not good leave it or correct it. but you now see by just what as happen here where your mind and heart are and where you have set and stop your understanding.

(21 Dec '12, 06:00) white tiger

@white tiger, adolf hitler was not bad nor was he untrue. In his perception of the world was all good and true. As a matter of fact, everyone always tells the truth. It only becomes lie in other persons eyes. Everybody is forever right and wrong at the same time. Duality makes everyone honest liars.

(21 Dec '12, 07:26) CalonLan

@CalonLan - "duality makes everyone honest liars" ... so brilliantly put

(21 Dec '12, 08:59) blubird two

@calonlan do you realy believe that adolf hitler was not bad? he was a sick man killing is own people. and killing people that where not to his standar and he was not at that standard as see the failed logic.but he was good to charm people and make them believe by playing with their ego.if those people would have been able to think for them self all this would not have happen.

(21 Dec '12, 09:44) white tiger

@white tiger, Adolf judged people, you judge him, there's no way out of this judgement game and it has no winners. Because then never sleeping mind come to play with the options...and you see, what if he didn't do what he did, would we be who we are now ? Would we be better or would we be worse. Are we better or worse because of what he did,... no-one wins, almost everyone loses and those who stop viewing the world through judgmental eyes are called crazy and locked up in madhouse.

(21 Dec '12, 10:35) CalonLan
(21 Dec '12, 10:36) CalonLan

@WhiteTiger, I do not think that @CalonLan meant that Adolf Hitler was a "good" person for the things that he did.

(21 Dec '12, 14:47) MoonWillow

@MoonWillow, there's a great deal of peace hidden in insanity of men.

Real treasure is not a pot of gold, but a mirror that lets you see the reflection of your self.

(21 Dec '12, 16:57) CalonLan

@calonlan it is no judgement it is the truth.before talking about things that you do not know about get your fact straight. Hitler's supremacist and racially motivated policies resulted in the deaths of an estimated 50 million people during World War II, including 6 million Jews and 5 million "non-Aryans" whose systematic extermination was ordered by him or by his close subordinates.

(21 Dec '12, 17:13) white tiger

Perhaps urssix and calonlan failed to comprehend this teaching and failed to grasp its essence

(21 Dec '12, 20:08) springflower

Calonlan I suggest you quite playing the role of being the devil's advocate because it will make you so unpopular. How could you come with such twisted contradicting analogies ,ofcourse Hitler was evil, and if you're so confident about what you said about him why don't you try sharing your views publicly and publishing newspaper articles concerning these statements you've made. Please, let's be clear and honest.

(21 Dec '12, 20:14) springflower

Saying Hitler was a good guy and just basically misunderstood is most Anti-semantic thing I had ever seen on this sight! I hope you are reading this Barry Allen, this needs to be censored, this does not represent the opinion of the site nor most of the people on this site.

(21 Dec '12, 21:23) Wade Casaldi

@springflower, those strings you're playing play deaf notes to me. For I understand the illusion of the meat grinder called reputation is well established throughout our societies.

@Wade Casaldi, look where we got, calling out for censorship! You're looking into the mirror and hating on yourself not me. I'm just the glass.

(22 Dec '12, 04:34) CalonLan

@white tiger, hitler was a cause of many consequences. Nothing less, nothing more. Neither of them were bad nor good. But be the judge if you can't sleep and make your heart at peace with taking side and calling it the truth.

(22 Dec '12, 04:36) CalonLan

@calonlan you do not understand annything,and you speak about things you know nothing about. that man hitler made some good things and bad things. the good things he did was helping is country becoming advence nation in the field of science. but he used that same country and trust put in him and killed people to serve is ego because he was sick. taking the number of life he as take because he was sick and from failed ideal and logic.he did some very bad stuff. that is not judgement it is the

(22 Dec '12, 04:58) white tiger

truth and fact. i do not need to judge. but if i judge it will be in truth. by the way my heart is at peace. even if you try to disturb me and i am being very mercifull with you. but you cannot accept that and it is what is scaring you right now is it not. and your little ego and darkness in you need to see me like ennemy. is that helping you?smile.

(22 Dec '12, 05:04) white tiger

@white tiger..."he did some very bad stuff" - "that is not judgement." Are you oblivious to obvious? What else if not judgement is labeling stuff as BAD. The truth? The yin is now the truth? And we call yang the untruth? The god is the truth and the devil is lie? By creating god you create devil, they both have the same power for they both are the same. If I pray to devil, no difference will be made.

If you haven't noticed by now, I wasn't talking about Hitler at all.

(22 Dec '12, 06:10) CalonLan

@springflower- Wade and I are so sorry that this discussion has taken away from your intent to post something you wanted to share with all of us. <3 Please hang in there!

(22 Dec '12, 11:32) Jaianniah

Please dont turn this into a political discussion, as you can see the tag is on spirituality

(22 Dec '12, 14:16) springflower

@calonlan i have not judged i have only tell the truth. to help you out because you do not know what you speak see judging as seing someone as bad in the negative way.yet can you say the truth with out judging good or bad. there is a difference between booth but you do not see it yet. if i would go and kill people around you. would you say that it is bad according to understanding and truth? or would you want to kill me because i did some bad stuff out of your judgement?

(22 Dec '12, 23:39) white tiger

@CalonLan IQ does censor. I've had a number of comments deleted; one recently. When I went back to delete my remarks myself; I found they had magically disappeared. Thank-you, thank- you moderators - I couldn't agree more. I also have a terrible habit of putting my foot in my mouth or saying things which can be interpreted different than what I intended, only to realize later.

(22 Dec '12, 23:42) ele

I tend to like the definition of Judgment from Matharat al-Qulub (Purification of the Heart) Poem verses 121-124 by Iman al-Mawlud, translated by Hamza Yusuf.

(22 Dec '12, 23:42) ele

eventually you will see there is a difference between the 2. if you judge are you in truth. if you would learn the reason why i have killed them and they did something to me more worse that deserve that they die. then would you still judge me. or know the truth about it? if you judge me in the first place your understanding have stopped there you condamn,and you want justice or vengeance. and you do not even want to know why i killed them. but in your case right now you speak about stuff that

(22 Dec '12, 23:48) white tiger

you do not know about. do you know why i said that hitler was a sick men? you see that as judging? On 15 October 1918, he was temporarily blinded by a mustard gas attack and was hospitalised in Pasewalk.Hitler became embittered over the collapse of the war effort, and his ideological development began to firmly take shape.[69] He described the war as "the greatest of all experiences.

(22 Dec '12, 23:55) white tiger

also would you say that someone that want to kill people according to is ideology,when he is wrong in is logic because it would kill him also. (The fictional nature of the Aryan race also allowed Hitler to change the definition of Aryan based on war politics. For example, prior to 1941, the Serbs, whose leader was favorable to the Germans, were considered the superior "race" in Yugoslavia, and the most Aryan. However, after a Serbian anti-Nazi coup, the Croats became the new Aryan)

(23 Dec '12, 00:07) white tiger

is that sane? to wish extinction of people even your self. because of your sick mind that as been affected by mustard gas on the previous war.

(23 Dec '12, 00:08) white tiger

you cannot say that killing people is good? do you want to be killed? why do you not want to be killed if it is so good? since we cannot tell the truth that it is bad since you see that as a judgement but it is only a fact. could it be that you are in a lie right now? and not in truth. in truth i can tell you that positive is positive and negative is negative with out taking a side and judging. but the way you see it is if something is negative you are judging it.

(23 Dec '12, 00:20) white tiger

@calonlan i have gave you alot of stuff that you can use to work on your self.until you do that,it is like i am wasting time with you. because you continue to do the same thing. in the hope of winning, but you always lose because you do not learn from your error and keep doing the same ones. you should learn what i have told you: you can win and lose and lose and win. but you are still trying to win,with out accepting that you have lose,and seing why you have lose. it would be better for you to

(23 Dec '12, 00:36) white tiger

know why you lose,because seeking victory at anny cost will only make you lose much more.

(23 Dec '12, 00:38) white tiger

do you play casino you better not you will lose often. and much more that you can win. why do you think that is? find that answer and you can continue after ward.

(23 Dec '12, 00:53) white tiger
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It seems like a complex blessing. What is jinn in English? I think that have we to have a better understanding of the wording we could understand this a little more.

It does seem similar to the Sermon on the mountain of Jesus in some ways.

I see it says even the most pious do not increase God's kingdom. This is because the standards of God are impossible to live up to. As it says in the Bible no one will get into Heaven by good deeds.

Good deeds please God and he rewards us for them but there is no pleasing God to the point of entrance to Heaven. It can not be bought by people worshipping or praising or doing enough good deeds. The price was paid for us, we just have to accept it.

I have reread it and even when I change Jinn to Genie the main message stays.


answered 20 Dec '12, 23:50

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edited 23 Dec '12, 03:09

jinn is genie or a demon. from what i know. i think i did not mistake.

(21 Dec '12, 02:36) white tiger
(21 Dec '12, 02:44) ursixx

Qarīn relates to ego. or a evil jinn in you that whisper to your ear.

(21 Dec '12, 02:49) white tiger

Oh what Christians would call a demon, I understand now.

I have to reread it again with demon in the place of jinn to really get it now. Thanks White Tiger and Ursix :-)

(21 Dec '12, 03:31) Wade Casaldi

you are welcome wade.

(21 Dec '12, 06:07) white tiger

Actually i wouldn't exactly label them as demons , jinn are more likely supernatural beings who also have freedom to choose good or bad and like humans have both potentials. However a rebelious jinn is a demon 'ifrit'. Thank you for asking

(22 Dec '12, 14:14) springflower
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Hello springflower

Thank you for sharing your beliefs ... i was brought up as a catholic though it has been many years that i no longer practice ... for me the teachings are similar to those of many other spiritual leaders ... what i learn from your posting is the significance and importance of communicating our beliefs and different points of view ... this question could have been worded "would you like to follow this spiritual leader?" ... :)


answered 21 Dec '12, 09:39

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blubird two

edited 23 Dec '12, 04:00

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