John 11:41-42 KJV Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand...

How do we attain unto this very degree of oneness & of consciousness with God. & Hence the manifestation?

asked 20 May '13, 05:36

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edited 20 May '13, 06:46

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@Israel, I've altered your question title. Please take more care with your titles in future. Thank you

(20 May '13, 06:49) Barry Allen ♦♦

He who has a why, can bear any how.

(20 May '13, 09:46) CalonLan

israel, know yourself, decide on what responsibility you act. let your self be (manifest) who it is. experience as one on the path

(21 May '13, 06:18) fred

@Barry Allen: Thanks for yhe edit, trying to stay in class. @CalonLan: He who has a why, can bear any how? pls i don't get that.

(21 May '13, 06:34) Israel

@Israel, thank you and worry not. You can forget my comment. If you don't get it, there's no point explaining. If you would get it, there's no point telling you either.

(22 May '13, 04:06) CalonLan

This is a group I made years ago for just this purpose. The God Consciousness Experiment.

(22 May '13, 10:13) Wade Casaldi
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Great question.

By our awareness of our "ONENESS" with God.

By getting rid of the peculier notion that were seperated from the Godhead. Religion has taught us that were miserable sinners, seperated from God and not one with him.

Most religious types who havnt had Christ reveled in them would think it a blasphemy to think of themselves as being equal to Christ/God. And with this mindset they will never have the realisation that they have this "oneness".

The biggest obstacle in my mind is the predeliction of some to interpret a group of 4 dimensional writings in a purely 3 dimensional way. Also its just impossible to realise oneness when you view God as being seperate from yourself.

Now you may have a great opinion of God, think your ok with him and have a happy life.

But if you want to operate as Christ you have to do as He does. And thats to know that when youve seen me....youve seen the Father.

Very very few people actually believe this.

We dont have to "learn" anything new to get the revelation of Christ.

We have to "unlearn" a great deal of stuff.

But we will, everyone will, its just a matter of time


answered 20 May '13, 05:57

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This is what I am looking... Thank you sir @Monty Riviera, you're truly a blessing...

(20 May '13, 20:43) Romel

Romel, i was recommended 2 or 3 years ago to start studying Neville Goddards work. Ive never regretted it and bless the day i learned about him. I would look into that if you already havnt.It may well bless you.

(21 May '13, 02:02) Monty Riviera

But realizing that it doesn't need to be attained because it already IS.

Oneness means ONE not TWO. It takes TWO (ONE + ONE) in order to SEEK/ATTAIN.

Good IS.... Bad IS.... Love IS.... Hate IS... Light IS... Dark IS...

'IS' is the unity of all things (God is "I AM")

All is connected to 'IS' even 'perfection' and 'imperfection' so they are ONE. There is no true 'imperfection' unless it is believed.


answered 20 May '13, 22:33

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edited 20 May '13, 22:39


Nice answer "Oneness means ONE not TWO" Perfect

(21 May '13, 02:00) Monty Riviera

People trying to escape the mind through using mind itself. Never gonna work.

(21 May '13, 02:08) CalonLan

How do we attain this very degree of oneness of consciousness? ... i could go on writing about it all day long ... the following video only lasts 6 minutes and 24 seconds but says neatly just about all i'd like to say ... "allow unconditional love" a message from Harold Becker



answered 21 May '13, 07:42

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I saw this the other day - exactly what I needed to hear/feel. Forwarded this video to a couple friends. Thanks @ru bis

(24 May '13, 02:02) ele

I am telling you the truth, we speak of what we know and testify to what we have seen. I am telling you the truth you need to be born of water and spirit. As Jesus and Buddha spent over 40 days in meditation so should you,acquire the virtue of the beatitude at the core of your being. in the father kingdom the child of God are is son. Blessed are the peacemaker they will be called sons of God. Blessed are the pure of heart they will see God. Do not be surprise at my saying. I am the way the truth and the life, if you would have believe in me you would have follow what I have said. I am not the one that will judge you, the word that I have spoke are what will judge you on the last day. But many honor me with their lips but their heart is far from me. Now you are not in darkness any more. Will you try to cheat your self and enter the kingdom with out passing through the gate? When God the holy father and all your brother and sister will look at you they will know everything about you. from the beginning to the end. Do not be surprise at my saying. If you are not at peace with what I have said are you a peacemaker? Are you able to accept the truth with a pure heart?

You examine the face of heaven and earth, but you have not come to know the one who is in your presence, and you do not know how to examine the present moment.

Let there be light, Be the light that you can be,experience and enjoy.


answered 21 May '13, 09:55

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white tiger

edited 21 May '13, 13:10

here's a more modern interpretation of what you're saying my friend

(22 May '13, 02:56) ru bis

@ru bis it is not what I have said at all. I am telling you the truth one needs to be born of water and takes over 40 days to overcome and enter the kingdom. every thing is written in the bible. yet they are only on milk and cannot eat meat. let me ask you this if you believe in something will you not follow that way. even in Jesus time he said many honor me with their lips but their heart is far from me. you see because they are not at peace with them self or other they cannot enter-

(22 May '13, 03:46) white tiger

the kingdom. so they all suffer from division, judgment, blame, jealousy, iniquity and they all sin against them self or someone else. they do not like it when it is done to them; then why do they do it to other? who is with out sin to cast the first stone? If they would have meditated or observe the Sabbath as a Sabbath in the first 10 days they would have notice all this.

(22 May '13, 04:01) white tiger

this is how i "see" your words :)

(22 May '13, 04:16) ru bis

well the video you sent only touch the beginning of being born of water. for me Jesus message is more deep and a lot more complete. But I guess you need to have eyes that see and ears that hear. or to have experience it. to know what is talked about. example if a man go to another country and report what he have seen, no one can fully understand what he says because they did not experience it for them self. So that person is the guide, the way the truth and the life, the light of the world. who-

(22 May '13, 11:23) white tiger

can reach that place with out him? so he is the door, the gate. the only one to point you in the right direction. We speak of what we know and report and testify to what we have seen. Let there be among you a men of understanding. You did not experience it yet so of course for you it is a mystery and that map that dates back from 2000 year is hard for you to understand. even in that time they could not understand it. as Jesus said to ponce Pilate, I am speaking about the truth. and they killed-

(22 May '13, 11:27) white tiger

him because of their lack of understanding their inner division and their sin. Would they today kill a man that talk about heaven after having a near death experience. Well back then they killed a man that was a son of God born of water and spirit that was the way the truth and the life, that gave the message of what was needed to enter the kingdom. Because of their own inner division and their sin they could not accept him. The difference between someone that can enter the kingdom and near-

(22 May '13, 11:55) white tiger

death experience. one meditate purify him self to be acceptable to enter the kingdom. the near death experience is the body failing and being sent with out preparation on that trip. Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is.

Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death." Anyone here with two ears had better listen! There is light within a person of light,

(22 May '13, 11:58) white tiger

and it shines on the whole world. If it does not shine, it is dark."If you do not fast from the world, you will not find the (Father's) kingdom. If you do not observe the sabbath as a sabbath you will not see the Father.From Adam to John the Baptist, among those born of women, no one is so much greater than John the Baptist that his eyes should not be averted.

But I have said that whoever among you becomes a child will recognize the (Father's) kingdom and will become greater than John."

(22 May '13, 12:05) white tiger

Look to the living one as long as you live, otherwise you might die and then try to see the living one, and you will be unable to see." So also with you, seek for yourselves a place for rest, or you might become a carcass and be eaten.Two will recline on a couch; one will die, one will live.if one is whole, one will be filled with light, but if one is divided, one will be filled with darkness.I disclose my mysteries to those [who are worthy] of [my] mysteries.

(22 May '13, 12:08) white tiger

I am the light that is over all things. I am all: from me all came forth, and to me all attained. The heavens and the earth will roll up in your presence, and whoever is living from the living one will not see death.Those who have found themselves, of them the world is not worthy.

(22 May '13, 12:12) white tiger
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Research the process of Awakening the Kundalini.

This can happen as a result of meditation.

The kundalini is described as an energy source coiled at the base of the spine.

If I remember correctly, after some time spent in meditation, it rises up your spine like a bolt of lightning, and it turns your being inside out, and you expand and ascend into a sense of union with the immensity and divinity of the universe.

It is just gob-smackingly awesome.

It seems like you're on another plane of existence, somehow.

I think other people might call it rapture.

It is overwhelming. Almost everyone who experiences it struggles to put into words what it feels like.

The author of Eat, Pray, Love writes about her experience of awakening the kundalini in that book. Richard Bach mentions it in Bridge Across Eternity.

It happened to me quite unexpectedly, after meditation. I have not been able to replicate it.


answered 22 May '13, 06:54

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edited 22 May '13, 06:54


yes awesome

(22 May '13, 08:38) ru bis
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