I just noticed a contrast in what Christianity describes as a fallen world based on sin and what many are describing on this site as (limitlessness, anything is possible, a perfect world, etc)

I think it is safe to say we are not 100% completely free from limitation in some way or another.

Perhaps, the LOA would work much more efficiently or as we describe if we were not in a fallen or sinful world??

asked 05 Nov '10, 20:05

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edited 06 Nov '10, 08:40

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Barry Allen ♦♦

The Law of Attraction describes the relationship between mental energy and physical existence, no more or less. What we describe as limitless, anything is possible, etc. only describes what is possible, not what is actually occurring in everyone's lives.

I think it might be worthwhile here to talk a little bit about the allegory in the Garden of Eden we call "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil"

The Bible says that God said to Adam and Eve, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for if you eat from it you will surely die." (Genesis 2:17)

What is interesting about this story is the name of the tree. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. We talk a lot here about how there really is no such thing as good or evil, but only what we interpret as good and evil. Well, before they ate from the tree, Adam and Eve were not making that distinction either.

The tree did not give us moral awareness when we had none before. Rather, it transformed this awareness from one kind into another." After eating from the Tree, humanity's innate sense of moral awareness was transformed from concepts of true and false to concepts of good and evil. Genesis describes the tree as desirable (3:6), and our concepts of good and evil, unlike our concepts of true and false, also have an implicit measure of desire.


And so it is that we began making value judgments. That is what living in a "fallen world" means. It means that we don't see the larger picture.


answered 05 Nov '10, 20:25

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edited 05 Nov '10, 20:31

B2B. I asked a question before on this website- can you believe in christianity and also believe in the law of attraction? I think that is where your questions are leading. You may want to look at some of the answers to that question. I feel that at some point we have to choose.


answered 06 Nov '10, 00:29

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edited 06 Nov '10, 08:36

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Barry Allen ♦♦

Im surprised to learn we live in a fallen world. Also quite surprised that Gods laws werent working perfectly.

I think the fallen world doctrine is a perversion of truth.If were fallen and the worlds going to hell in a hand basket what does that say about the creator of all this mayhem,evil and fallenness.

Surely Gods better than to create a fallen world.

Surely i His laws are anything like material laws the must work consistently and properly.



answered 06 Nov '10, 11:23

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Monty Riviera

If we perceive the world as fallen, that is the world that will show up in our experience.

Personally, I choose not to see it from that perspective, but rather as a world that is evolving with it's inhabitants finally beginning to wake up to the real nature and beauty of the planet and their fellow inhabitants.

The LOA is always working efficiently but our choices determine where that efficiency is directed. By becoming conscious of those choices we can change that perception of a fallen world and help in the creation of a world based on peace and love.


answered 06 Nov '10, 12:23

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I agree Michaela.Perception IS reality

(06 Nov '10, 13:37) Monty Riviera

We're on the same page Graham :)

(06 Nov '10, 14:24) Michaela
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