I have been part of an self-help/spiritual/psychology community for some time which is based on the values of emotional intelligence and personal integrity. It has served me well.

However I feel I have maxed out my growth at this group (for now) and desire to explore a different spiritual community. Not discounting Inward Quest of course! I prefer something in person because I really want to meet and befriend some other people of this nature.

I have desire to see some jedi-like powers in my life. I thought the quickest and easiest way for me to let this in my life is for it to no longer be "such a big deal" and if my top 5 friends could all levitate and force jump, then it will be within my grasps quite easily! :)

I am thinking of exploring these three world-wide groups: 1. Theosophical Society 2. Freemasonry 3. Magick groups

I have met a few people who claim to be heavily involved in these communities, and the only thing I can say is that these people seem wise, seem to know 'secrets', and probably know way more than they reveal. I've done my research on how to spot a cult (and have), so I'm aware of the pitfalls and dangers surrounding anything "secret".

I have done search on IQ for Theosophical Society but haven't found anything. Please humble me if I have missed anything.

Question: What are you comfortable sharing about your personal experiences within freemasonry or the theosophical society, or a Magick group? Regardless of answer my gut is calling me to check out these groups regardless, but I thought I could amp up the fascination.

asked 14 Oct '17, 03:49

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I practically spent my whole life either involved with or around people involved in groups such as freemasonry, AMORC, Golden Dawn etc and even some that no one would have heard of (invite only).

I think you will end up disappointed in what you find. At best you may be involved in an "old boys" club and make some good friends who are trying to better themselves and do good in the world.

But much more likely, you'll end up finding a bunch of posturing, smoke and mirrors, squabbling, lost people trying to find answers in life who really have no clue but pretend to anyway and manage to get a lot of people to believe them.

It's mostly all nonsense, IME. I wouldn't recommend it, personally. OCCASIONALLY you may stumble on something or someone genuine...but they are few and far between. Most people I've met who are genuine do not involve themselves in such groups.

That is, of course, just my experience. Naturally if you are feeling inspired to explore then go ahead, there is probably something there for you.


answered 14 Oct '17, 04:27

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@Liam - "That is, of course, just my experience" - Perhaps not only your experience :) I think you've summed it up pretty well there.

(14 Oct '17, 04:46) Stingray

Thanks for sharing @Liam. I understand the vibes of the "old boys club"! I attend my group weekly and notice a large crowd enjoy smoking and gossiping considerably more than personal development. Hmmm....Why are they coming?? No judgement!

I can imagine the intellectual arrogance of some for being involved in the group for x amount of years and expecting pedestal worship.

I may report back in a couple years and inform of my discoveries.

(14 Oct '17, 07:00) Nikulas

I have "some" experience with those kinds of groups, perhaps even a little more than "some" :) And I think @Liam has summed up my view pretty well so nothing more to say there.

I feel I have maxed out my growth at this group

Perhaps you have, perhaps you haven't.

One of the things I've discovered over the years (sometimes painfully) is that "Truth" can come at you from the most unexpected directions and the most unexpected people.

Think of Yoda from "The Empire Strikes Back" movie where Luke Skywalker initially dismisses a small green frog-creature, who turns out to be one of the galaxy's greatest spiritual masters. Or, less well known, Boothby the Academy groundskeeper in "Star Trek: The Next Generation" who turns out to be one of Captain Picard's greatest moral/spiritual influences.

Fictional examples, I know, but the writers are trying to make a valid point.

One of the most influential people in my life in recent years turned out to be a guy that I strangely enjoyed conversing with by email occasionally. Never knew him beyond that and never thought of him as anything more than just "some guy" who sends me emails from time to time.

At one point, for various reasons, I was not able to respond to him for several months but his last email to me mentioned something life-changing he had stumbled across. It was a strange new method called EFT which he was really sure would be useful to me.

It took me a few more months to really understand the enormity of the tip he had given me. He was right, it was life-changing...for me, and everyone else I've passed the information onto. I tried to get back in touch with him but he never responded.

Eventually, years later, I tracked down a friend of his online and asked where he was because I really wanted to thank him for having such a profound effect on my life.

It turns out he had been going through a difficult life situation and he had committed suicide some days after sending that email.

Like I said, "Truth" can come from the most unexpected sources and I find it is wise to never be too certain about what path it's going to take to reach you :)

I have desire to see some jedi-like powers in my life. I thought the quickest and easiest way for me to let this in my life is for it to no longer be "such a big deal"

If you don't mind me saying, the contradictory nature of those two sentences of yours kind of sums up the stumbling block for you regarding what you want.

As long as you think of these abilities as "Jedi-Like" powers, they are hardly "No Big Deal", are they? :) The whole underlying presupposition with the Jedi (in the Star Wars movies) is that they are unique and special people that have these amazing powerful abilities that other people don't have.

But seeing those abilities in that super-power way is hardly a vibrational match to them. See the millionaire analogy.

Would someone who is aligned with doing different-from-the-mass-norm things really think of themselves as "Jedi-Like"? Something to think about, perhaps? :)


answered 14 Oct '17, 05:29

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edited 14 Oct '17, 05:32

@Stingray) Sorry to hear of your friend. I cant assume how hollow and strange that experience must have been. Even though I have no relationship to this person you've described whatsoever, it still makes me sad to hear of stories like such.

Interesting linguistic pickup and, yes, reveals where I stand on the matter vibrationally. Yes, I still find those 'powers' fascinating and far from my ability range. I have found slower skillset development journeys are tastier if anything!

(14 Oct '17, 07:06) Nikulas

research and read what they
proclaim as their goal,
how they influenced religion,
philosophy and politics

he still believes one size does
not fit all but that there are
multidimensional influences
affecting human existence


answered 14 Oct '17, 06:59

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Beautiful answer. My mind absorbs your poetic conveyance.

(14 Oct '17, 10:35) Nikulas
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