Another question I have pondered all my life....

Blessings, Jai

asked 22 Feb '10, 21:54

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edited 11 Nov '11, 07:22

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It is my understanding this is not the 'true' number of the beast. I personally subscribe to the idea it's most likely 616, or perhaps another number entirely, if indeed a number at all. Maybe he only has symbols and hates math. =P

Wouldn't it be funny to find out all the stigma put on numbers like 666 ended up being misplaced? It'd be interesting to find out the actual number, and the origins of the real & misdirected one[s] if there's a reason at all.

(11 Jun '13, 02:11) Snow

Well @Snow, scroll on down the page & you will see Monty said just that - 616.

(11 Jun '13, 04:33) ele
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Our world is carbon based and carbon has:

protons 6 neutron 6 electrons 6


Compared to the heavenly worlds we are 'beastly', not having fully mastered the art and craft of Life (and Love).

I can't help wondering if the conversion of 666 to 999 is the 'secret code' for interpreting the wisdom teaching of the Hanged Man in the Tarot (which was a method of transmitting 'the mysteries' in more treacherous times).

999 is just one short of 1000 which was regarded as the number of perfection.. so the highest we could attain whilst still in the body would be 999.

Just my thoughts on the subject.


answered 22 Feb '10, 22:26

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(Sing a song, brother) If the sun refused to shine, I don't mind, I don't mind. (Yeah) If the mountains fell in the sea, Let it be, it ain't me. Got my own world to live through And I ain't gonna copy you.

Now, if 6 turned up to be 9, I don't mind, I don't mind. If all the hippies cut off their hair, I don't care, I don't care. Did, 'cos I got my own world to live through And I ain't gonna copy you.

White-collar conservatives flashing down the street Pointing their plastic finger at me. They're hoping soon my kind will drop and die, But I'm gonna wave my freak flag high . . . HIGH!

Hah, hah Falling mountains just don't fall on me Point on mister Buisnessman, You can't dress like me. Nobody know what I'm talking about I've got my own life to live I'm the one that's gonna have to die when it's time for me to die So let me live my life the way I want to.

Yeah . . . Sing on brother, Play on brother . . .

That part of Jimi Hendricks lyric always made me think.


answered 22 Feb '10, 22:06

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What no video?

(09 Jun '13, 20:15) ele

@ele what was the date you made comment? The ninth of June? 9/6? hmmm?

(10 Jun '13, 17:17) ursixx

@ursixx haha . . . 6/9 of 13. All's good - it reduces down to 1.

“Imagination is the key to my lyrics." ~ Jimi Hendrix

Even better if you use ru bis's wave form POV - it's an 8! Thanks!

(10 Jun '13, 17:36) ele

awesome..,lovedd it :))

(12 Jun '13, 04:18) supergirl
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and i know your one of the few "elect" that never discredits god, that is why your fate will be heavinly:) trus me on this;) only reason i spoted this answer is becuase latley i have seen too many people on this site (in a sense) thinking that they are capable of ANYTHING. it is like they have forgotten about GOD (the one who CREATED them). so i felt like i had to post this answer anywhere, didnt matter at all. how you feeling by the way, better?? – Mebb 5 hours ago

Mebb.. I have only been on this site for a short time - but in all that time I have never seen ANYONE discredit God. I have seen genuine seekers after Truth. and there is nothing higher than Truth, for God is Truth.

Re your statement that too many people here thinking they are capable of ANYTHING - you just promised someone here, unconditionally, that she will end up in heaven and that she should trust you on that promise. You practice what you preach :)

People who think they are part of the 'elect' worry me a tad... they are telling me that the God of Love, the Father of All that IS, has favourites - and is even willing to kill those that don't curry favour with Him.

Meb - could you kill one of your own children - even if he was being a real pain in the butt and a cause for concern. I am not a betting woman, but I KNOW you couldn't. A God of Love most certainly would not.

And before you tell me about all those mass murders, annihilations, women and innocent children included that appear in the Old Testament... have you ever asked yourself whether maybe on those occasions God may well have been misidentified. The Bible does tell us that no-one can look on God and live.. that that God was jealous. Jealous? of who?

Good question and there is lots of food for thought here.


answered 23 Feb '10, 23:00

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no lorraine but you CAN punish them. difference between murder and punishment. now in regards to the "elect few" ahah what, you think we are ALL equal?( in temrs of mentality). OBVIOUSLY NOT. there ARE people who excell (in terms of mentality). and when i was reffering to the "elect few" i was reffering to those who excell MENTALLY (not a specific gruop of individuals). and those who DO RECONISE god as who he is is amungst that group(who excell mentally). now sorry if i came off a bit strong but (to me anyways) it did seem as some have gone astray and forgot about the almighty creator.

(25 Feb '10, 07:43) Mebb

so if im wrong, then i do appologise. blesses

(25 Feb '10, 07:43) Mebb

Now there is a good question for you to ask elsewhere Mebb... what is the difference between murder and punishment?

(25 Feb '10, 22:48) Inactive User ♦♦
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Strangely enough, that's my phone number! The concept of the beast is but a thought form meant to bring out horror in the minds of the masses. For each imagines the worst him he is capable of. The beast lies deep within each and every one us and most chain it to keep it there instead of bathing it with love. Think of the yin/yang concept.

Thank you, namaste


answered 05 Dec '10, 11:57

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@daniele the yin/yang concept ❤

(09 Jun '13, 08:33) ru bis

Those numbers represent what ever YOU want.

Others will give it meaning on their terms and if you wish to join you may.

To me 666 represents Cupcakes with delicious vanilla frosting and a gummy bear on top. Enjoy!

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answered 11 Jan '11, 16:51

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edited 11 Jan '11, 18:43

Great answer!

(10 Jun '13, 14:58) ele

Spiritual energy spirals and fixes itself into physical matter in the form of horizontal vibrations at a very slow speed and escapes from matter in the form of vertical vibrations at the speed of light.

666 corresponds to all that is physical in nature and in nature all is duality, there is a 666 counterpart. Just as the counterpart to negative is positive so the counterpart to 666 is 888

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666 symbolizes all that is "bad" and 888 symbolizes all that is "good" ... there is nothing new under the sun ... it all boils down to what we name today here on IQ, "the law of attraction" :)

update monday june 10th;

as @ele says 666 reduces to 9 and 888 reduces to 6 ... from a waveform point of view this fits in nicely, 9 and 6 when graphically superimposed give 8

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in other words these two forces work together to give perfecy harmony, it's practicing the golden ratio


answered 09 Jun '13, 08:28

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edited 10 Jun '13, 00:24

@ru bis- Very astonoshing. The significance of the number 8 has been striking my mind for a while now. It all began with a manifestation website that claimed all of its power was gained from making use of the vibrational power of the number 8:

(09 Jun '13, 08:51) Nikulas

thanks for the link @Nikulas :)

(09 Jun '13, 09:27) ru bis

666 reduces to 9 & 888 reduces to 6.

(09 Jun '13, 20:16) ele

yes 666 and 888 reduce to 9 and 6 which from a waveform point of view is most interesting ... i'm updating my answer, thanks @ele

(10 Jun '13, 00:04) ru bis

If 666 symbolizes all that is bad; why does 888 symbolize all that is good?

(10 Jun '13, 14:58) ele

@ele on a two dimensional drawing sky is up and earth is down, so graphically 6 is symbolic of an accumulation of lowly "bad" earth energies and 8 is an uninterupted flow of energy between earth and heavenly "good" sky energy ...

(11 Jun '13, 00:07) ru bis

@ru bis Wondered how you would answer me. 888 represents Christ to Christians & 666, the anti-Christ. Love the waveform POV & perfect harmony. 8 represent harmony & infinity. The joining of 2 circles & a endless flow of energy circling around & around in a never ending loop. Love the connection between earth & sky. Thanks.

(11 Jun '13, 04:36) ele
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If you asked a qabalist they could tell you all about the 6th sephiroth, the heart chakra, how "Babylon" rides "The Beast", etc.

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. – Rev. 13:18 (NKJV)

This is mistranslated from the original which has the number as 616. NERO, the roman emperor at the time of the writing of this book, had a name that enumerated to six hundred and sixteen. (Perhaps 666 just sounds better? Or maybe a different political target had a name with an additional 50 points;)

This is merely conjecture; Lorraine's answer about carbon nailed it for me.


answered 05 Dec '10, 08:01

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As I see it from a numerology point of view, 6 is the number of Venus, of physical Pleasures and Senses like sex, eating etc. When 6 is for three times (that is 666) we have the Physical World of Pleasures and Senses in the highest degree. Stucking on Earth matters is considered to be an obstacle for human spirituality and evolution to higher levels. That is why 666 is demonized by christianity. Because it represents the binding of Humanity to earth matters.


answered 11 Nov '11, 04:31

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I dont know what 666 represents, but apparently 616 is the biblical number of the beast. Im sure the original was lost for a while or misinterpreted or......... something.

That's the problem with a book between 2 and 4 thousand years old with no remaining originals !!!


answered 09 Jun '13, 16:42

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That's true..

(10 Jun '13, 14:59) ele

you know what, and forgive me for this becuase i know its irrelavent. but it seems like many of you are forgetting that there still is a creator. it is good 2 grow and expand but we must remmember, god still does exist and we still are only human. i know that we have much power and that our mind is an amazing tool, but we still must not forget our positions as humans. god is the almighty and we can never take credit for what he has created NOR think that we can ever be like him( or equal to him). that is exactly what lucifer thought( the highest of the angels. satan) and look what god did to him?? he cast him out of heaven and cursed him for eternity. listen, god loves us all and of course wants the best for us and he has given us much power (especially in regards to the mind) BUT he still expects us to be humble and give credit to him. if it were not for him, we would simply NOT exist. so we must never forget that. also why do you think atlantis dissapeared so quckly?? the tower of babel?? if you are aware of the biblical story about the tower of babel humans were trying to build a tower that could reach the heavens, for they said " we can be like god, we are great" and what happened to the tower of babel?? god PURPOSELY destroyed it then seperated the people giving them differnt languages, that way they became weak becuase they were not united. and im not saying that being united is bad, no OF COURSE ITS GREAT! BUT we must be united for the right purpose. to be strong BUT ALSO to give credit to god and acknowledge him as our almighty creator. those who don't will be seperated from god and WILL NOT see the kingdom of heaven, they WILL go to hell. now people will argue that hell doesnt it exist but im afraid it does. to many people have reported visintg hell in a Near Death Expirience. so obviously this place must exist. but once again i think that you must be a really bad person to go there OR if you do not acknowledge and GIVE CREDIT to god. so all i am saying is PLEASE no your limits when it comes to power. YES we are all gods children and YES we are all co-creators and YES we all do have much power(mentally) BUT we must reconise our positions as humans and not try and discredit or even EXCEED the almighty creator...god. sorry once again, but i am seeing to many people start and forget about where they came from and HOW they came to be. humble is the key to "LIFE" peace.


answered 23 Feb '10, 08:25

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Mebb, of course I agree with what you have written- BUT- why did this question provoke this answer? I am a little confused about the point you are trying to make. Jai

(23 Feb '10, 13:34) Jaianniah

ha jai. it didnt at all. that is why in the beggining i said "forgive me becuase i kow this is IRRELAVENT". and i know your one of the few "elect" that never discredits god, that is why your fate will be heavinly:) trus me on this;) only reason i spoted this answer is becuase latley i have seen too many people on this site (in a sense) thinking that they are capable of ANYTHING. it is like they have forgotten about GOD (the one who CREATED them). so i felt like i had to post this answer anywhere, didnt matter at all. how you feeling by the way, better??

(23 Feb '10, 17:30) Mebb

Thank you, Mebb, for the clarification. Yes, I am doing better! But I have run into a bit of a glitch- my IV line went bad and I haven't gotten my meds since Sunday. I am scheduled for a PICC line to be inserted into my arm (google it) tomorrow (Wednesday). But I am definitely on the mend. Thanks for asking! Love, Jai

(23 Feb '10, 17:49) Jaianniah
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No need to apologise Mebb. You have your ideas and I have mine, and it is a lot of fun exchanging them :) Intellectually superior people are sometimes saints and other times veritable devils. So a person's intellectual capabilities, imo, should be treated as just another 'quality'. How can you rate 'kindness' against 'intellectual capacity'?

One of my very favourite saints is St Joseph of Cupertino.. he was a dullard but so spiritually evolved that they actually had to tie him down so he wouldn't float too high up in the air during prayer - TRUE! I would consider him my superior on any level apart from intellectual ability.

(Staff - I tried to add this as a comment, but it wouldn't let me ?? what am I doing wrong? :) aaah the irony.. so much for my intellectual superiority - lol)


answered 25 Feb '10, 22:42

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I presume you are trying to click add comment and it doesn't open a box for you to add a comment? What is happening instead?

(26 Feb '10, 07:43) Barry Allen ♦♦

I can open the box alright and type the comment, but sometimes when I click of 'add comment' it just ignores me.. :) (why am I thinking husbands right now lol)

(28 Feb '10, 22:17) Inactive User ♦♦

I got lost... what was the question? I believe that we are all a loving creation of God. I also believe that not all human beings accept this fact. I also believe that God gave us all free will. Is it not amazing? having an all powerful loving creator, who did not crated a bunch of robots to do just as He wished. he really gave us free will. To chose to love or not. It all begins with me though. However, I am still confused about 666 and 999?


answered 27 Feb '10, 01:56

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Hi Petra... this may explain it a little...

(28 Feb '10, 22:21) Inactive User ♦♦

From Carbon-12 to Carbon-7 :

Light & Love anybody


answered 11 Jan '11, 16:18

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From a geometric point of view the number 6 can be represented by the hexagram, a six pointed star figure and a compound of two equilateral triangles ... the number 3 can be represented by an equilateral triangle ... so the number 666 possesses a combination of these sacred geometry forms.

From an energetic point of view the number 6 is equilibrium between the ascending fire forces and the descending water forces in other words a good balance between yin and yang ... the compound of two equilateral triangles forming a hexagram can be seen as the combination of the four elements fire, air, water and earth.

From a human emotional point of view the whole structure vibrates harmony, equilibrium and love.


answered 08 Nov '11, 15:52

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As explained above, 6 being the 6th sphere (Tipharth) on the Qabalah, represents all Divine human beings, or Divine avatars in human form (beast). The 6th Sphere is also ruled by the Sun, and again alludes to all Solar deity worship (including the Son (Sun) of Man).

The letter Vav in Hebrew also has the value of 6, and is pictured in the Tarot as the Hierophant. One of the meanings of this relates to all exoteric worldy religions and "orthodox" institutions.. the dinosaurs of society.. the true "Beasts" responsible for a lot of stunted growth (spiritually speaking), which must one day be overcome by the forces of Light and true spiritual growth.


answered 09 Nov '11, 03:25

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I think it represents man in his unawakened state and 777 would be man in the awakened state of perfection.


answered 09 Nov '11, 20:44

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