I find it ironic that we "supposedly" came into the physical world to have the experience of being in a body. However most of us can only find joy in this experience if we understand our connection to the Universe. Hence the need for spiritual growth. Can someone explain this?

asked 02 Sep '10, 19:15

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edited 02 Sep '10, 20:21

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Kinda like going to a Chinese restaurant and ordering a hamburger.

(02 Sep '10, 19:36) ursixx


(01 Nov '12, 16:56) analilia

@Drham- Bashar has said that the physical world is spiritual; just becuase it is physical does not make it less spiritual than any other ideas you'd have in your mind.

(01 Nov '12, 21:29) Nikulas
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I hear you. I think the main thing to know is stay in balance with the physical and the spiritual. I know people that are way too spiritual and it seems like they are on their own planet.

I don't see how that is any better than being all about the physical.

I think the key is balance.

The physical world is part of the spiritual world and the one we live in.


answered 02 Sep '10, 21:06

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I fully agree - I think we have to learn to integrate both.

(02 Sep '10, 22:55) Michaela

@Back2Basics - Absolutely agree - a balance between the two is the ideal situation. Grounding in the physical body is a really important part of the spiritual journey.

(30 Oct '12, 12:17) Catherine

Although we came here for a physical experience, we are always first and foremost spiritual.

I don't think at the beginning of our journey on this earthly plane that we intended to lose sight of the fact that we are always spiritual. However, due to conditioning and society, we do allow a veil to form between the physical experience and our true spiritual nature. Although the connection can never be severed,as physical beings our perceptions become clouded and we feel like we've lost touch with our spirit.

When this happens it's impossible for us to lead the life of joy that we originally intended because we are not living from our true nature so we then spend time seeking those things which we already are - joy, love, peace, happiness, freedom etc., but which we originally allowed to be obscured from our view because of conditioning.


answered 02 Sep '10, 22:54

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Talk to an athiest, lol. I don't really think there is a seperation of body and spirit. It's all the same energy different manifestations. I think its more of a school of learning type of experience. Some get so caught up in the physical body and world that we tend to forget we are soul manifested in a body for spiritual, experiential learning. Hence the seperation.


answered 02 Sep '10, 20:00

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I agree. The Physical/material world can be a challenge (for many) regarding learning and growth. This Universe appears to be an appropriate place for learning.

(02 Sep '10, 21:35) GS415

Living a lifetime is like watching a movie, is it not? If the movie is good, do you get caught up in it? Does the outside world melt away? If you live a lifetime, do you temporarily forget the spiritual world, where you came from?

In the spiritual world, there is no time, no beginning or end, only the present moment, and all events are existent simultaneously, in the same spiritual place, all at once. In the physical world, one moment is separated from the next, and people, places and things are separated from each other.

I believe we choose to experience life in the physical plane, in part, because we can feel the excitement and anticipation of not knowing what is going to happen next, movement in the perspective of time and space, and the thrill of discovering it all over again.

"You can hold a reel of film in your hands," he said, "and it's all finished and complete - beginning, middle, end are all there that same second, the same millionths of a second. The film exists beyond the time that it records, and if you know what the movie is, you know generally what's going to happen before you walk into the theater: there's going to be battles and excitement, winners and losers, romance, disaster; you know that's all going to be there. But in order to get caught up and swept away in it, in order to enjoy it to its most, you have to put it in a projector and let it go through the lens minute by minute...any illusion requires space and time to be experienced. So you pay your nickel and you get your ticket and you settle down an forget what's going on outside the theater an the movie begins for you."

-- Richard Bach, "Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah"


answered 02 Sep '10, 20:48

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Beautifully said!

(03 Sep '10, 00:44) RPuls

We are a part of the spiritual, and the physical World, and one does not come with out the other. We humans are a part of the whole; given, we are here for a physical experience, while some humans have allowed their curiosity of the spiritual world to take precedence in the physical world. But, I guess it is fair to say, we are all a little guilty in perusing the spiritual aspects of things in our physical experience here on earth.


answered 03 Sep '10, 00:31

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Good question! I must admit that I am always partial to my phsyicality, but for me, it seems that the spiritual is where I must look for my answers and solutions as to how to make this physical life work. In other words, if I don't tune in, look within, then I'm lost and I can't seem to make anything work!


answered 30 Oct '12, 09:40

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Good question. As we live in the physical world we should focus mostly on the physical world and not forget to live. There is a wide beautiful world open before us, and we should not disregard it. However, I think pursuing the spiritual side of things is okay so long as we do not neglect the physical world. I believe that the spiritual world interacts with the physical world, and that the two could be linked in some way. Thus, the spiritual world can still be very relevant to the physical world.

I can often find ways to better understand myself and my feelings and responses, through exploring the spiritual aspect of things. It can also give me a sense of security or hope. The physical world can be a frightening place, you could die any second, and terrible things can happen. And I think that is when people often turn towards the spiritual side of things to be given comfort.

Although I believe in much of what modern science teaches, I believe there are several supernatural events e.g. stigmata, that are often unexplored. And these phenomena are still very mysterious. Thus, these things need exploration to better understand them and why they occur.


answered 30 Oct '12, 11:15

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the dead are not alive and the living will not die. you came to play in this field. why be afraid?

(01 Nov '12, 18:16) white tiger

although the physical world has much beauty and joy it is also full of pain and limitations.

(01 Nov '12, 21:44) alfangor

simply because of your amnesia since your physical birth,you do not know yourself(spirit) or where you came from or where you are going.( The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.") the flesh is flesh and the spirit is spirit,once born of spirit and having been above,and talking to the holy father, you will know that it was your choice from the beguinning to come and experience this world. then you can make the same choice and come back down here in the flesh to experience this world. so let there be light,be the light that you can be experience and enjoy.


answered 30 Oct '12, 13:11

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white tiger

As others have already suggested...maybe we're here for both the physical and the spiritual.

It seems to me that since we are, at our core, spiritual beings, one can never truly divorce oneself from one's own spiritual nature.

It would be kind of like a land mammal trying to convince itself that because it lives on the land, and not in the water, that it never needs to drink. Although it has evolved to live on land, it is still an organism composed of 90%+ water.

Because the spiritual/vibrational aspect of our reality is largely invisible, it is, perhaps, more easily forgotten.

But we still have to drink, right? :)

So it seems that by being conscious and aware of our true spiritual-immortal-vibrational nature, we are actually able to enjoy physical reality! We are able to have fun in "the holodeck" while not succumbing to the delusion that the holodeck is all that there is.


answered 31 Oct '12, 15:24

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