Lucifer means lightbearer in Latin (Lucis + Fero = Lucifer). Satan means adversary or opposer in Hebrew. Is it good to call LightBearing something adversarial?

Isn't God Light - infinity, all-powerful and we are having an experience shifting through infinity and infinite possibilities?

Are we not God because we are a part of God? Didn't even Jesus say "Ye are gods" (John 10:34)?

Is it really an act of pride and rebellion to Live Your Joy? Didn't Jesus talk about the Joy of Heaven and also clarified that The Kingdom of Heaven is Within - with us NOW we just have to EXPERIENCE that Joy?

Jesus was also called rebellious and evil...

No where in the bible does it say the devil was called Lucifer. The only verse mentioning Lucifer is a verse in Isaiah who called him "Heylel Ben Sachar" which means "Shining One - Son of Dawn" and he was calling a Babylonian king Lucifer in order to mock him, like how the gave Jesus a crown of thorns to mock him.

According to the bible, there are powerful fiery winged serpent angels named Seraphim, keep in mind that in Hinduism as serpent race (Nagas/Nachash) told them about the fire serpent energy of the body Kundalini, uand The Serpent is a symbol of healing (Moses healed with a golden serpent) and wisdom, as Jesus said:

"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." - Matthew 10:16

What do you guys think of this?

Freedom, Joy, and Wisdom for all of you. Peace.

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@arpgme - I would say that in that particular story (be it true or not), Lucifer was not merely following his joy, but was engaging in immense resistance...for a previous discussion of this topic, see

(06 Apr '15, 15:29) lozenge123
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I can offer a simple explanation for you to consider. To understand, you will need the following items (either real or just use your imagination).

Start with two or more clear glasses of any shape or size. The glasses will be used to represent the different people. Next, you will need some water to fill each glass. The water represents the nature of reality and the truth that governs our existence (Law of Attraction for instance) regardless of whether we acknowledge it or not. The last thing you will need is a selection of food colorings. (Different flavors of Kool-Aid will do but your imagination can provide a greater number of colors).

Each color represents a belief of some sort. There are religious colors, political colors, colors that represent beliefs about ourselves, (I'm a loser, I'm worthless etc.) Imagine that there is a color for any and every belief held by every person. These will include any beliefs about Gods, Angels, Devils and demons. (Lucifer included) Every individual is free to pick and choose whichever colors they would like to add to their own glass.

Understand that every color is valid and will react in exactly the same way when dropped into the clear water. Depending on the mix of colors used, each glass of water, will end up having it's own unique end coloring and each individual will see the world through the glass as it is colored by their individual set of beliefs. Many of the results will be similar to others. For example, the glasses of Christians may all appear as shades of blue, and Muslims, as shades of green and so on. Both will argue to the death, that the world is obviously tinted blue or that it is clearly tinted green.

You, however, now know what your particular God or non-god has always known; that is that the water is clear and the ever-changing colors are just temporary perceptions that we, as creative conscious beings, choose in order to "decorate" our reality.

Your question is basically asking 'Who or what is, or was Lucifer?

My answer is...he can be whoever or whatever you choose him to be; A devil, an angel, a being of light, a rebel, a double agent, good or evil. Ultimately, he is just another belief! Obviously there are various 'mass' beliefs that apply to this entity or non- entity, and you are free to join in with any of them you like or you can choose to believe that Lucifer never existed at all or that he is merely a symbolic representative of some concept or other. You can find a number of colors on your imaginary 'palette' that represent this particular being. If you want him in your glass, pick one. They are all equally valid.

My advice, for whatever it is worth, is to simply avoid adding any non-essential or extraneous beliefs (colors) to your glass. Too much coloring diminishes the clarity of the water, 'clouds' your perceptions, and darkens your personal reality. Eventually, you can become (metaphorically speaking) "blinded by your beliefs"! :)


answered 05 Apr '15, 22:24

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perhaps years of translations
diminished the integrity
of the original truth

the symbolism has been
exchanged for the letter
of the word and miss the point


answered 06 Apr '15, 15:25

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Bible Verses About Lucifer Bible verses related to Lucifer from the King James Version (KJV) by Relevance

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Isaiah 14:12-15 - How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! (Read More...)

Revelation 12:7-9 - And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, (Read More...)

Isaiah 14:12 - How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Ezekiel 28:17 - Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

Luke 10:18 - And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Revelation 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Jude 1:6 - And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

John 8:44 - Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Ezekiel 28:14 - Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Ezekiel 28:15 - Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

1 Peter 5:8 - Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Genesis 3:1-24 - Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? (Read More...)

2 Peter 2:4 - For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Ezekiel 28:16 - By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

Hebrews 2:14 - Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Revelation 12:4 - And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Revelation 20:10 - And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 13:1-18 - And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. (Read More...)

Job 1:6 - Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

1 Timothy 3:6 - Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

Ezekiel 28:13 - Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Matthew 4:3 - And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.


answered 07 Apr '15, 16:59

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