Why do some people suffer for the wrong doings of those who have lived before them in their generation? Is it that God is so wicked?

asked 22 Oct '09, 14:30

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edited 22 Oct '09, 14:43

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Barry Allen ♦♦

Did you have a specific example of such suffering in mind?

(22 Oct '09, 20:18) Vesuvius

People suffer through their own thoughts. It is never the problem that causes the pain. The pain is an emotion brought about by how you think about your problem.

Try this

Think about your problem. Let the pain enter your body Focus on where the pain is in your body example it might be in your chest. Now just be aware of the pain NOT THE PROBLEM Witness the pain only. DO NOT GET INTO A CONVERSATION WITH YOUR THOUGHTS. Just witness that the pain is there in your body. Just witness it be aware that it is there only.

It will dissolve because it cannot stay once you are consciouse of it. This is how you stop your suffering

Keep doing this over four or five months and it will become automatic for you.

You will find that the problem will also go away because it never was the real sourse of your pain. It was your way of thinking about it that caused your suffering

Hope this helps


answered 22 Oct '09, 18:25

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Thanks I will try that. That is food for thought.

(22 Oct '09, 19:15) flowingwater

This sounds rather like the Sedona Method - interesting way of working on the relationship between one's thoughts and feelings.

(22 Oct '09, 22:44) Rebecca

Life has NO built-in meaning!

For every situation to have an effect on you the situation itself isn;t sufficient. It's only half on the input. The other half is how YOU feel the situation has affected YOU.

That's how you close the cycle. Without your input you can say that that situation never happened.

Let's say for an example that a girl dumped you. One way to going about it is to say:" Oh, that B****> she's not worthy of me. She doesn't know what she missed, it's all her fault." Your attitude towards the situation, let's call it as negative ;]

Now another way you could approach it is :" Well another girl has dumped me. Maybe it's time to see why I push away every women in my life. Let my threat this situation as an opoturnity to learn about myself and not to make the same mistakes in the future." Well taking resposobility for your actions, let's say it's positive ;]

So you have the same situation and two diffrent approaches and two diffrent effectsd you get from each one.

Now from EVERY situation in your live you can extract something positive. And I mean every one of them. You simply have to choose. YOu;ve been doing it all along but in such an automatic way that you forgot that it is a choice.

It's time to take back your power!


answered 22 Oct '09, 22:41

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I used to be confused by this question but I am pretty much at peace with it now.

Everything that happens to us is because of "karma".

The original meaning of the Sanskrit word “karma” is “action”. This probably doesn't tell you much though, so a better translation for the purpose of this answer is “causality”. The law of “cause and effect” is always active in the universe – everything we're experiencing right now is the result of previous actions and what we do, say and think in this very moment determines our future. The world is always in perfect harmony, whether we feel that way or not :)

Now for the big question...Why do some people start suffering as soon as they are born and throughout childhood when they haven't done anything "wrong"? The thing is, not every “effect” we are experiencing now has it's cause in this lifetime.

It's really difficult for people to accept such an idea, even for those who believe in past lives. “That's not fair! Why should I be judged for something that I did in another life and that I don't even remember?!” :) Now, I gotta admit I don't remember my previous lives either. :) Therefore I just want to humbly offer the most reasonable explanation I've come across so far: rather then a concrete being, each of us really is an endless stream of consciousness that is constantly moving from one form to another. Thus passing karmic impressions from one lifetime to the next doesn't seem so unlikely. Maybe we weren't even in a human body in our previous lives but we did have some experiences and the seeds for future experiences were planted. As for not remembering what we did in a previous life...well, we probably don't remember what we ate the other day either, but nevertheless it is now part of our bodies. Think about this for a moment.

Karma isn't the same as fate. Of course you can define words as you please. However in the kind of worldview I am trying to describe here karma is actually the opposite of fate. Fate implies that everything is predefined, that some god-being has decided what my life should be like and there is no way I can interfere with this plan. Karma on the other hand suggest that we are free and we are creating our own destiny, moment by moment.

Karma does not imply that we are being judged by a supreme being, it is NOT a system of punishment and rewards. It's not performed by some deity. Instead, our own actions leave impressions in our minds, and these later manifest in our lives as events in harmony with the actions.


answered 23 Oct '09, 03:21

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"A person who sets his or her mind on the dark side of life, who lives over and over the misfortunes and disappointments of the past, prays for similar misfortunes and disappointments in the future. If you will see nothing but ill luck in the future, you are praying for such ill luck and will surely get it."

- Prentice Mulford (1834-1891)


answered 23 Oct '09, 06:47

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edited 23 Oct '09, 06:57

Ah, the old question of theodicy. Since you've put God into the question, I feel obligated to put God in the answer (at least part of it). The issue from a Judeo-Christian perspective is: if God is good, if God is omnipotent, if God is omniscient, how can he allow the innocent to suffer? Perhaps no answer is satisfying when you're the one that's suffering (or someone you care about). I think the most obvious answer is that God allows free will. So Hitler does his thing and Ghandi does his thing. Life happens! (to avoid the vulgar version)

Interestingly, Jesus made reference to some Galileans who were slaughtered by Pilate as they offered sacrifices. He asked, "Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things?" Then answered, "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish." Then he continued referring to a tower collapse that killed some people, asking, "Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem?" Again, the same answer, "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish." (see Luke 13:1-5) The point is that suffering is not a measure of God's judgment for a particular sin, but Jesus recognizes that humanity lives alienated from God and is in need of reconciliation. In short, God allows humanity to suffer the consequences of humanity's own decisions. The world suffers because people are free to cause suffering. The traditional biblical perspective points to a future time of judgment where such things will be addressed, and places the responsibility on us to alleviate suffering and combat evil in the here and now. Of course, God also offers resources to assist us in our task if we seek the help.

The choices people make have far-reaching effects on others, for their benefit or for their pain and distress. I think there are lessons to be learned from all of these things, though that is not a justification for the suffering. If there is a redeeming value in suffering, it is that we resolve not to let it happen again. My choice is always to try to find a positive lesson in everything, even if the lesson is to teach us the consequences of apathy and inaction. Another interesting point from the Christian perspective is this remark by James: "Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do [it], to him it is sin." (James 4:17)


answered 23 Oct '09, 07:28

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edited 23 Oct '09, 09:51

I do not have the answer for I do not know the answer. But I will take an guess at the answer and say according to the bible there were curses put on people that went from one person to another in the family or one generation to another generation. It says the sins of the father can be pass down to the son. Also it says you weep what you soa. What you do to others will come back to you be it good or bad.

I here others talk about karma form past lives and you can have an plus or an negative karma.

God is our creator and gave us free will to chose. We do not know why to all things.

No, I do not believe God is wicked. Sometimes I think God just watch what we do and see will we call upon him for help.

I am begining to learn that we are co-creators in our own reality and we must watch what we speak and guard our thoughts. We must think postive.

We must go to God in prayer an ask for his divine help with all of our problems. Ask him to remove all evil, negativity, harm from inside of us and from away from us and our family or the ones we love.

I would go straight to God and ask why so much suffering as been infected upon whomever and ask him to remove it and I would ask for forgiveness of what the others have done and ask for forgiveness of all humans what they have done to God, others, themselves and you. I would say forgive us Lord for all of our sins as an human race and bless me an my family and bless the whole world. I hope this helps.


answered 22 Oct '09, 18:02

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Forget about God. imagine that God doesn't exist. how would you explain it? .. who would be there to blame? .. here is how I understand it: God is out of the picture. people make choices, and each choice affects the choices of others. sometimes, we get back the results of our choices, and sometimes, our children does. to the universe, to God .. we are all one. one kind = one person. we act as individuals, but we also act as one being. so our actions gets back to whoever is there to recieve it. just like our body cells .. millions die and at the same minute millions are bron, but they all act as one being within one body. whatever this being is doing, the result goes back to the whole. that's why we have mind to guide us, conscious mind to take care of the whole and subconscious to take care of the parts. yes, sometimes it seems not fair, painful, .. but also other times it seems like a bliss. for example, today you are enjoying things that millions of people spend their lives to create. look around you .. you will find thousands of what they left for you to use and enjoy without you thinking or doing anything, you just get them and use them. :-) .. so, would it be fair to suffer for what others did ? .. nothing comes without a price. no birth, no death. no happiness, no suffering. now, let's see what are your choices. you can enjoy the pain, focus on the problems, blame God or anyone else .. and spend your life in hell, and leave some of it for whoever comes after you in the waiting list. or you can enjoy doing what God/life had given you to overcome any problem in existence .. free will. with this simple super power, one man/woman .. only one, with nothing but a choice, can change the fate of millions of people and leave freedom and knowledge to hundreds of generations. God helps, but he never take choices for us. he only gives us what we need for what we want. always. on the other hand, there is Satan, the evil one, doing exactly the same. gives us what we nedd for what we want. always. it all begins and ends with a simple choice.


answered 23 Oct '09, 01:51

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People pay for their feelings which in this case is unfairness or the act of being mistreated. It can be called a self-fulfilling prophecy if you wish.


answered 23 Oct '09, 03:19

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Collective Karma.

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answered 23 Oct '09, 08:19

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