I come across more and more people who think the year 2012 is going to dramatically change the world and a lot of them think the world will end then.

There's even a disaster movie coming out about it called "2012" (I think).

What's the big deal about this date?

asked 03 Oct '09, 09:31

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I wonder why so many people here want "scientific" anwsers. I've thought it is spiritually oriented website...

Unless spirituality starts to have greater meaning, our development (human development) won't go any further.

(01 Dec '09, 19:02) Asklepios

Don't worry, Asclepios; the scientific knowledge isn't nor compulsory and neither a sin. For many people it is an option and for someones the science is a passion. But the true Science is a part of All, a part (unfortunately too little) from the God's whole knowledge, wnich the scientists discover very slowly and partialy. Never, nobody can discover anything which isn't into Divine Mind. Then, the "scientific" knowledge is, however, spiritual something.- - - For your pleasure (I hope this) I post an other kind answer.

(06 Feb '10, 01:48) Gleam

Gleam, exactly.....science is part of God's world.

(19 Dec '12, 09:11) clearheart

John Drake, people are fascinated with things like y2k bugs and 1984..you name it! It's a distraction from mundane life or pain, plus it is like the unknown is in our face with these things. It sharpens people's awareness and that can't be bad.

(19 Dec '12, 09:13) clearheart

Actually, I'm really looking forward to the day after the end-of-the-world. I always enjoy reading the imaginative explanations from the doomsayers as to how humanity managed to escape from its terminal fate...yet again :)

(19 Dec '12, 10:39) Stingray

nothing is going to happen bad on 21st December.no body knows exact timing of doomsday...the humanity and world have to travel alot yet.

(19 Dec '12, 11:23) Zee
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Honestly you should focus in your reality first and not believing in anything that comes on tv , radio ,etc everyone knows that the media is a way to mass brainwash peoples mind.Regarding the 2012 there are things way bigger than the allignment of the planets , if any of you guys practice any spiritual practice regularly you have already noticed what its going on for those of you who are "not awakened" from 2007 to 2012 earth magnetic field is receiving different energies that with the proper knowledge will let you ascend into higher dimensions or the so called Angelic Realms.

Its true that the heart is changing , the rotation is slowing and Humankind is awakening into their true identity and really knowing what we really are...Divine creations of God :)

Regarding the so called "iluminati" or the New world order forget about it and study the laws of the mind , you will discover that no one can harm you if you deeply dont want it...so stop thinking about that and leaking mind energy to that believe and Focus on you and your personal and inner power...you will discover yourself and God in the same place.



answered 04 Oct '09, 21:47

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Right we need to focus own our own reality first and not believing everything we hear, see, and read.

(06 Oct '09, 10:35) flowingwater

Great answer Yathnos.

(02 Dec '09, 03:45) flowingwater

Has anybody thought that maybe the guy who was making the calenders just went outside for a smoke when he got to 2012, and fell off his temple, have you seen how high them Mayan temples are? nobody else was going to finish them, who were they goona sell them to?


answered 08 Oct '09, 23:02

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Love your answer Pete!! You bet! How little we know!! LOL!!

(09 Oct '09, 20:29) Sharyn

+1 for humor :)

(13 Oct '09, 04:30) Vesuvius

It is an thought something could have happen.

(31 Oct '09, 11:30) flowingwater

Thanks for the chuckle:)

(01 Dec '09, 23:39) Michaela

I remember reading your answer and falling off the chair (at work) in laughter. I still love reading your answer. +1

(30 Dec '10, 20:00) The Traveller

Love this answer... lol

(19 Dec '12, 15:14) LapisLazuli
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Listen up here is the real deal from a scientific stand point. The Galactic Alignment is the secret behind all the fuss. It is the alignment of the December solstice sun with the Galactic equator. This alignment occurs as a result of the precession of the equinoxes.

Precession is caused by the earth wobbling very slowly on its axis and shifts the position of the equinoxes and solstices one degree every 71.5 years. Because the sun is one-half of a degree wide, it will take the December solstice sun 36 years to precess through the Galactic equator.

The precise alignment of the solstice point (the precise center-point of the body of the sun as viewed from earth) with the Galactic equator was calculated to occur in 1998 (Jean Meeus, Mathematical Astronomy Morsels, 1997).

Thus, the Galactic Alignment "zone" is 1998 +/- 18 years = 1980 - 2016. This is "era-2012."

This Galactic Alignment occurs only once every 26,000 years, and was what the ancient Maya were pointing to with the 2012 end-date of their Long Count calendar.

Then people begin to speculate if a polar shift could be caused by this alignment of the solstic point, sun and earth.


answered 04 Oct '09, 20:41

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Thanks for the information i appreciate.

(06 Oct '09, 10:42) flowingwater

This is not only about the Mayan calendar. There are many different disciplines of knowledge involved in the theme. Many other people have tuned into this date. Terence McKenna and his novelty theory and Ananda Bosman and his new Universe theory. People of all ages, religions and places are tuning into this date. What is is in the human consciousness that is doing it? Biologist Rupert Sheldrake has some answers. Google the precession movement of the Earth. Research James McCanney. And Immanuel Velikosvky and his World in Collision theories and Dr. Paul LaViolette.

There is a lot of scientific data about the solar system changes, most of it from Russian scientists. And there is even a Russian astronaut that confirms Planet X, Marina Popovich.

And please, leave Wikipedia out of this... it i definitely not your best resource.


answered 04 Oct '09, 19:14

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As Brian indicated, there is substance behind all the hype and distortion. I would add that if you look at a cross section view of the galaxy it is plate shaped (like our solar system, and there is a mid-point. Our solar system is moving in one of the spiral arms and not only spins along with it, but also traverses up and down, going from one side of the "plate" to the other, which takes many thousands of years to accomplish. We have already entered into this phase of going through the densest section where the gravitational forces are the strongest and this will peak at 2012. This is also the motor which drives our global warming phase, having little to do with our polluting ways (but we still need to stop poisoning our water and air).


answered 06 Oct '09, 15:03

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I wouldn't worry about it. There have been people claiming that the world is going to end since the world began - and they'll continue to find excuses to keep doing it as long as it grabs attention from others.

It's just doom-mongering usually with some kind of hidden agenda behind it like "see our movie", "watch our news programme", "buy my book" or "believe what we believe".

The world was supposedly going to go into meltdown at Y2K - nothing happened and nothing much will happen in 2012 either.


answered 04 Oct '09, 08:43

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It is an open question as to whether Y2K was a non-issue because it wasn't a problem, or because the programmers did a really good job fixing the issues.

(13 Oct '09, 04:29) Vesuvius

Like Barry says, it has to do with the Mayan calendar. Some who have studied it believe that 2012 will be the end of the world. Others say that the world won't end, but an era and the world will begin anew with the people holding different values and views, to take it in a new direction.


answered 04 Oct '09, 18:02

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If the world ends...

What does it matter what we think.

So stop stressing about something in the future.

Be happy and fulfilled today.


answered 04 Oct '09, 19:21

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The coming of the One World Order ???

Many people talk about it in a subdued manner

There are certainly many things out there which suggest that this may the wishes of certain people who have the desire to dominate and control every aspect of humanity on the plannet.

Which corresponds with commens of target dates for :

Europe becoming one country

The USA, Mexico and Canada becoming one country

Asia and the middle east becomming one country

But hey time will tell .... I might have passed away from natural caused by then


answered 04 Oct '09, 19:23

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We should not be worried about 2012; in fact we should be eagerly awaiting this extraordinary phenomenon. Yes it is the 26,000 year cycle of the Mayan calendar, and also the Vedic calendar which is the (Hindu calendar), and because from when this calendar started there have been no known survivors from the previous cycle, hence the assumption that we would face the same fate. And it has to do with the aligning of the planets, which is true. The studies regarding these two ancient civilizations have shown that they had amazing technology which peaked and then all went quiet. Fortunately for us we still have the Vedic texts which have survived thousands of years, but unfortunately the Mayan texts were destroyed. These texts help us to get an insight into the past.

But what is really exciting is that many people who study these calendars, forecast that technology will peak, and saturate, and that we have already entered a new phase of consciousness and awareness which is accelerating, and around the that time we would start to experience the flowering of this consciousness, so we should look forward to commune with a “Higher Being”, in a broader perspective.


answered 05 Oct '09, 08:36

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There was and always will be "doom and gloom" end of the world theories throughout the history of men. If you research all the "end of the world" theories of the past, they're always within a very short time. If someone were to predict that the world was going to end in 150 years, who would pay attention? Its always more interesting when the event is right around the corner. Anyone recall the Y2K?


answered 06 Oct '09, 02:19

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People are assuming it's the end times. The date has to do with many cultures' understanding of cycles of time. Astrologers use the precession of the Equinoxes. This is a Mayan calendar date. and it's just that, a calendar. And just like you always do, you go out and buy a new calendar for the next segment of time. There will be a 2013, etc.


answered 07 Oct '09, 18:07

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No,it is not going to end. It is only the end of the Calendar. Hebrew Calendar is not the same as the Mayan as the Roman and Greek Calendar. So,let's see and I will explain to you. The Hebrew calendar is different? Why? Because September is the seventh month of the Hebrew of Israel. September is the Julian Calendar of the Romans, of Italy is the ninth month of Julian calendar.It's only effects of the Constellation of the Covenant of the Cross, of the alignment of the Cross of the Dec 21, 2012.


answered 30 Aug '11, 19:32

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Because nowadays TV and movies, not to forget the Internet are the media through which all information is disseminated and, fast at that. The movie is out, so now everybody is waiting..., ... Not so fast ... It may my end and very many of us end but not the end of the world. That's where metaphysics trumps religion, in my view.


answered 04 Oct '09, 20:08

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Don't buy into the fear factor some people use fear to control people. Fear factor can save you from danger but it can also be use to huddle you into a belief system they have design to control you. Jesus came that we may have life and life abundanlty. Have faith in your creator God "that I am" an be thankful for each day that you are blessed with. Take no fear of tomorrow but enjoy today and be the best you can be today and be thankful of your many blessings. Help others as you can and as you see a smile upon their face you will smile to. The bible says no man knows when the end time is. Besides the world in time may not coinside with your end time. Remove the spirit of fear from your mind and inhale wisdom of God and love. Peace be with you. Hold on to the fact that you are love deeply by God.


answered 05 Oct '09, 05:31

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Well now, just imagine for a moment that it were true..would you live your life any differently? Would you perhaps be more altruistic? ..be more true to yourself?


answered 05 Oct '09, 19:53

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If there is a prominent event in this world, first we need to think about the scientific reason for that event and second, also need to consider spiritual creation; first or inner creation for that. I believe there is always a reason or principle for a certain event and a certain programming for that event in a spiritual world and finally it will be manifested in the human world. I am not really sure that the exact time; year 2012 is the end of this world but I can see the ending time of this civilization is very much near. But I don’t believe this is an end of this world or Earth. There are lots of prophecies mentioned about this but I hardly see the core scientific reason or fully explained principle for this event and appropriate solution for this crucial time.


answered 11 Oct '09, 08:05

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Cosmic autumn

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Personally I think we are just beginning to wake up to who we really are and the realization of what we have done to each other and the Earth as a Whole. I think 2012 is going to be a major shift in the awakening of humanity as a whole and a worldwide flowering of this consciousness.


answered 01 Dec '09, 23:45

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I could answer that with one word MARKETING, 2012 is big it sells! Movies and books and videos tv shows with interviews plus tons on the net and seminars. Now was this created just to market something IE make money off of the public? No I knew about 2012 back when it was not popular and Ian Xel Lungold was trying to be heard and could only dream of the popularity 2012 has now.

I have Ian's DVDs and in his seminars he used to give he said 2012 is not an end but a beginning he said we go infinite on 2012 or as we would say today quantum. Everything would instantly manifest with every thought, everything keeps speeding up technology keeps speeding up so something new is invented every moment now but he says it will go quantum in 2012.

Now do I believe this? It seems unlikely at least from our present right now, this is the same man that predicted we would have "Free Energy" by now. So for me even though he claimed to have decoded the Mayan text and he was native and accepted into the Mayan deeper understanding. I really believe it is a wait and see thing We Just Don't Know.

That wasn't so hard to say now was it? ;-)

It is the reason I wanted to see if someone could remote view it to get a sneak peek and find out early. Anyway that date is coming in just 3 years from now so we'll know soon. It just seems like it is dragging getting here like "Come on already! I have been hearing of this for years! Lets get this date over with already!" lol


answered 02 Dec '09, 08:07

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Completely agree, Wade. 2012, though it may have meant something else originally, is now totally about marketing. End-Of-The-World is big business. Interesting that the companies that are making money from all this obviously don't think the world is ending, else why bother to market it and make money from it? :)

(02 Dec '09, 08:40) Stingray

I saw an interview with the director of the movie 2012 and I remember he said he doesn't believe any of that is going to happen but it is exciting in a movie and makes money. That must be on you tube someplace I bet. So even the guy directing the movie doesn't believe it, he is just trying to make an entertaining exciting movie that makes a lot of money.

(02 Dec '09, 09:29) Wade Casaldi

An another kind answer:

"And in this great world, we, children of a world grotesquely smoll,

Raise upon out tiny planet anthills to o'ertop the All.

Lilliputian kings and people, soldiers, unread, erudite,

We engender generations, reckoning ourselves full bright!

One-day moths upon a mudball measurable with the chip,

We rotate in the great vastness and forget 'twixt cup and lip

That this world is really nothing but a moment caught in light,

That behind, or else before it, all that one can see is night.

Just like whirls of dust and powder thousands of live granules play

In a glorious ray's dominion and pass over with the ray.

Thus against the never-failing night ot time without a bound,

The spontaneous ray, the moment, still fails not to go the round;

When it dies, all dies - like shadows melting in the murky distance

For the universe chimeric is a dream of non-existence."

                 * * *

Fragment from "First Epistle" of Mihai Eminescu (1850-1889), the greatest poet of Romanians, of all the times. From tome "Poezii - Poems" (Bilingve edition) by Mihai Eminescu. Editura Teora SRL, 2007, Bucharest, Romania


answered 06 Feb '10, 03:15

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Very nice another kind answer :)

(06 Feb '10, 03:37) Roy

I guess I am overly "spiritual" like scientists are overly "scientific". Everyhing is about balance. And as you said, science is also a part of the holy knowledge...

(06 Feb '10, 12:13) Asklepios

And quantum physics would appear to be the bridge between the two....but even that's a paradox. If you understand quantum physics, you don't understand it at all...it's beyond our ken....for now.

(06 Feb '10, 14:49) Phil 1
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People have been saying the end times or end of the world since "revelations" was written. People believe that the world will end because they don't think for themselves and they would rather listen to some "authority" on ancient studies. like the Mayan Calendar.


answered 06 Feb '10, 04:48

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Beloved, I remote viewed to get a sneak peek and find out what exactly would happen on December 21, 2012 at exactly 12:00 pm. I wasn't able to get an image the way I usually do, however; a male voice told me "sprzątanie" which is Polish for housework, tidying up, clearing. This is the first time I recieved communication in Polish for I am not a native Pole, I only live here because my husband is. Therefore, it was a sign for me to stay or be in Poland at that time.

thanks and blessings, namaste


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answered 03 Dec '10, 18:26

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I don't believe it and I wouldn't worry about it. I believe that something will be changed since people know more about the human mind and possibilities resulting from it. There were already a few dates concerning the end of the world....


answered 05 Oct '09, 07:20

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Let’s be practical, seriously, do you really think the world is going to end in 2012? As you can recall the world was going to end in the year 2000, and we are still here in this same world living, and enjoying our lives. And guess what: talking about the same topic!

So my point is: what is so different about this specific year 2012, and why do some people still think the world is going to end in 2012? But the real question is does any of us really knows when, and if this world is really coming to, or is going to end?

The truth is: I do not think that anyone knows the correct answer or the specifics of time, and place of this accourance, if any. Although this topic, does makes a good conversation piece exploring the reality of the future, and the coming of the ending of the world, if be.

But let us dig a little deeper into this aspect: the bible teaches that Jesus walked this earth 2,000.00 years ago, and he will come again 2,000.00 years later! But the scriptures did not give a specific time of the coming of Christ. Generally speaking in essence, what does this all means? Is the world really going to end with the coming of Christ, or can we flip the script to say we will have a new beginning when Christ for his world.

On a more positive note, I personally believe that the year 2012 is going to bring about some definite changes worldwide, both from the way in which we live in our environment, and we will see some general changes in the overall growth of our economy, advancement in modern technology, and health care. Humanity will begin to feel more prosperous, there will more harmony to go around, and the trust level among the people will increase. We will see a coming together among the human race like we have never seen before, peace, love, and unity. These are my thoughts for the year 2012, looking on the bright side of things.


answered 03 Dec '09, 08:51

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I have a feeling..... 2012 will be an awakening. There will be an end to the world but only the world as we know it. A new consciousness will arise because the monetary system will inevitably implode. It's a mathematical equation with a resolution that is pre-destined.

We're being fed that the GFC is over. I don't think Argentina or Iceland would agree.

Hollywood shouldn't even enter into this discussion. I don't understand how it can even be considered - Hollywood make MOVIES - Not documentaries. Fictitional, dramatic pieces of entertainment that have one purpose - to make money. 2012 follows the same tired old formula for bland, mind-numbing entertainment. The plot reeks of familiarity.... the hero makes it back with his missus whose partner/husband/lover/man-of-the-moment dies and there's hardly a tear for him - she's straight back to the man she left who has incredibly undergone some major change OR she's just realised what a top bloke he was all along. Just about everyone else dies a horrible, inescapable death.

Oh please......haven't we seen this movie plot in every other end-of-the-world, disaster movie? How can anyone swallow this crap? How can it enter such a forum? Shouldn't it be on a world worst movies website?

We are evolving at a rate of knots. I'm freakin' excited - I can hardly wait for 2012.


answered 06 Feb '10, 15:31

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narrow mindedness. The world with in cannot end even if the physical world does end.


answered 06 Feb '10, 18:53

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Well, I'm not Mayan, and I don't use their calendar. I'm free to believe and use my own calendar, and they are free to believe and use whatever they want. As for me, whoever crosses to the next plane before or in 2012, his world has end here, and for other people life continues, to some it will just be the begining. Godwilling, I ll be back to comment in 2013, if I'm not among those that died. What I believe is that not all humanity is dying in 2012, but people will continue to die the normal way they use to die. Only God knows tomorrow. Catch u....


answered 22 Sep '10, 19:31

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They choose fear instead of harmony.


answered 29 Sep '10, 23:46

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it is a focul point of impending change, as discussed by astrology and ancient wisdom. a concept of the whole of which we are al parts. yet with fear, we could visualize an annihilation of the limited scope of our existence. why not at the end of the masyan calendar

answered 31 Aug '11, 00:51

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experience and enjoy the now and make the best of it for you and others.stop focusing on the end of the world. i will witness it when it will come so what? Jesus answered, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me." Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.


experience and enjoy.


answered 31 Aug '11, 04:37

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