I have a bit of a conundrum. I play a computer game and have done so for many years .My favorite type of game is a first person shooter (fps) .I am a pretty decent player and play fair.I know it is just a game.I know killing is wrong. I abhor war and all that it stands for.
But... I really enjoy my gaming,my friends are also gamers. We even have several international contests we compete in.
I had an app/game on Facebook called Mafia wars and that I stopped playing because of the inherited violence involved in the game.
Whats your take on this? Play or not to play that is the question? ;)
I've played "violent" computer games for years and have watched and enjoyed (and still do) plenty of "violent" action movies. A part of me knows it is all entertainment and I treat it as such.
I've never had a problem with it but that might also be because my lifestyle is such that the situations represented in those computer games and movies are so obviously absurd to me, that I can't relate to them in any other way than pure fiction.
If I was, say, involved with the armed forces and I was playing a war-based computer game, I don't know if that would change my real-world behavior somehow because I would probably be able to relate to it more.
Your question raises a further interesting point which might give you some food for thought.
I would say that my own natural view of war is probably fairly similar to yours though I'm far less anti-war now than I used to be.
That's probably as a result of getting "told off" a number of times over the years by non-physical for being rather judgemental regarding war. If I recall correctly, I think even Rob's TReb Bor yit-NE might have had a slight dig when answering a recent question of mine through a video recording :)
I think the broader issue regarding the suppression of war, violence etc is that, in having absolute opinions that certain actions are wrong, one is also suppressing "non-physical's" desire for experience.
If a Higher Self wishes to explore the whole of a particular theme, for example, a violent one, then there must be the opportunity to explore both the light and dark aspects of it, otherwise it's a one-sided experience. So, without exception, we have all donned the roles of the violent and the peaceful in various incarnations.
I remember Abraham saying once that soldiers fighting each other in the height of battle can be just as much in alignment as someone engaging in something (peaceful) that they love.
The implication here is that it is only our human judgements that war, violence etc is wrong that lead to people such as you, and me, having strong views that it should not be allowed.
From the non-physical perspective, all experiences are valid and all experiences are being actively sought. Indeed, I've heard it said that the violent and dark lifetimes we have played in, are often some of the most interesting as far as "soul" experience is concerned.
answered 31 May '11, 02:05
A great question ursixx and it just so happens that I’m overqualified in my capacity to offer an answer, (just a small airing of my ego, lol).
I started playing video games upon the launch of Space Invaders in 1978 (yes, I’m that old, relatively). Then I started playing PC games around 1993 and have played almost every day since. I used to put in anywhere from 4 to 10 hours per day straight playing on or offline.
I didn’t realize it at the time, but it’s obvious to me now that being immersed in that virtual reality for so long was a form of escape; even though I was living on a tropical island paradise (and still am).
From 2001 – 2007, I ran a LAN club from my house with 8 computers and a maximum of 12 guys wanting to play every Saturday. Can you imagine the testosterone vibe going on?
Through my organizing everything to do with the club and the fact that it was hosted at my house I learned so much about people and their egos and am truly thankful I did so.
For instance, those who won a big game would then jump up and down and behave like a dog with 2 tails running around and boasting, me me me; they’d even self promote themselves to be 15 star generals right on the spot. While those who lost often became extremely defensive and depressed and all kinds of excuses came out, such as “the mouse didn’t respond” or “my rifle jammed” etcetera. Neither of these scenarios was a pretty sight :)
And here’s the thing, the poor winners and poor losers were the very same people. Now what I realized through this group interaction was that it’s always far better in every way to do whatever you’re doing for the fun of it and not only to win. When you have a heavy focus on competition you take the fun away from the activity.
I introduced team games to see if I could bring back the fun, but many were only interested in winning for themselves. Eventually due to all this ego action, lack of fun and a total lack of appreciation for my hard work and my sponsoring of the club, I disbanded it.
Well, first of all, from my perspective how can the act of playing FPS war games and through that process, learning so much about human nature be seen as wrong? It came through, it happened, so obviously it had value. Consciousness doesn’t make mistakes :)
Second, from the big picture perspective, right and wrong are always relative terms. It’s only our human judgment that labels something as right or wrong. I’ll give you an example below.
Judgment comes in many forms. Due to my current awareness, I maintain that right and wrong are relative terms and that when we apply those labels as an absolute; we always do so depending upon our current perspective or point of view.
On several occasions when stating my truth, I’ve risked being criticized and labeled as this or that by those who haven’t even considered the importance of understanding the concepts of right and wrong at a fundamental level; and thus they refuse to allow themselves to move beyond them.
I’ll share my experience of asking and the answers I’ve received as replies to stating this truth. I asked:
Is there really such a thing as right or wrong or are those terms always relative?
Understand that these are actual answers I’ve received from people when discussing this subject. Words are an expression of what’s on our mind. I simply raised a question, yet these were the things on people’s minds and the answers they gave in their judgmental tone.
These subjects were on their minds, not on my mind. So in the very answers given there was judgment and so in their estimation I must somehow be wrong for asking the question. Can you see the madness? Those were their own answers and the expression of their own mind, but they definitely wanted to make me wrong for their thought expressions. Think about that. Examine that!
However, from the perspective of who we really are there is only unconditional love and no judgment, because there’s no judge.
Thus, if playing FPS war games and killing computer generated characters in a virtual reality serves you and you enjoy it then it’s not wrong, period. These days I’m in and out of the virtual FPS world in no more than 1 ½ hours. There’re so many other virtual realities to explore and I love them all 8-)
answered 31 May '11, 04:29
I think it all depends on what meaning you are placing on what you are doing. If it feels like target practice, and you play it that way, I see no harm. Many people just enjoy shooting. I also have played games such as World of Warcraft, Doom, etc., and I did not place any meaning on it. But if you feel a niggle of "wrongness" in what you are doing, then perhaps God is asking you to see what meaning you place on it. Perhaps you are liking it too much. Personally, I do agree that I would not play a game like Mafia Wars because of what it means, as you have said. But in a game like Doom, it does get to be more about the accuracy and score than about anything else. I can see that.
I hope this helps you. I would also refer you to my answer to the question about Obeying God. Blessings, Jai
answered 30 May '11, 18:09
I used to be a FPS-er, and I stopped all together. I started to feel better immediately. Though it is not real people, aggressively shooting another in cartoon world or not seem to breed a want kill feeling. Me, in real life never want a gun, no need, but shooting in a game did not vibrate well with me.
I have an affinity to all sentient beings so killing for sport (animals) doesn't vibe well with me either.
I think now that you are asking the question six, you are now considering not a good vibrational match...just saying'
Good luck and don't get the map packs :)
answered 31 May '11, 01:26
YES. you must be thinking about killing while you perform the act in the game.
answered 31 May '11, 06:33
Morally it is wrong to kill, but since you are playing a game, and you appear to be a very discipline person, who makes sound decisions, then it is not wrong, because you know that it is a game, and when it is over it is over!
Example: I can visit, and attend other churches, even if I am not a member of these churches, and there is nothing wrong about this, because I know I will return back to my own church, after visiting these other churches!
answered 02 Jun '11, 06:34
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