Can you share something about my thoughts here in my mind? If i seek those things that Christ has, can i acquire wealth?

And do you have an idea what are those things? Thank you.

asked 25 Sep '11, 12:44

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edited 25 Sep '11, 14:15

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seek and you shall find.In Mark 10:25, Jesus says:"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God."

(25 Sep '11, 13:26) white tiger

(25 Sep '11, 13:40) white tiger

(25 Sep '11, 13:49) white tiger

What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?

(25 Sep '11, 14:01) white tiger
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Jesus said to His followers that He had no place to rest His head. He said that you can not serve both God and money. He also said to seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things (food, clothes, shelter) will be added to you.

Like beauty, wealth is in the eye of the beholder. To some, good health = wealth. To others, having loved ones around them = wealth. What really do you need money for? To buy things? Seek first His righteousness and these things will be added to you. Sometimes it is the food it's self, sometimes it is the money to buy the food.


answered 26 Sep '11, 13:32

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Fairy Princess

Thank you. .. .^_^

(26 Sep '11, 13:38) Joemer

you reap what you sow. i agree.

(27 Sep '11, 00:04) white tiger

"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

I sought the LORD, and he answered me; he delivered me from all my fears.

Delight yourself in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart.

You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.

For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.

If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.

and receive from him anything we ask, because we obey his commands and do what pleases him.

This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.


answered 25 Sep '11, 12:57

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white tiger

thank you white tiger. did you try to ask him?

(25 Sep '11, 13:15) Joemer

Amen. Well said White Tiger.

(26 Sep '11, 04:15) Paulina 1

I assume that, by wealth, you are referring to money.

True wealth transcends money. True wealth is the knowledge that you can be secure and happy without a lot of money, and in the peace of mind that comes with that knowledge.

After all, you can't take all of the money you've earned with you when you die.


answered 25 Sep '11, 23:10

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i agree vesuvius.What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?

(26 Sep '11, 02:01) white tiger

Thank for the idea's that you have shared.

(26 Sep '11, 10:55) Joemer

yes, i know money is not everything, but we can't deny the fact that money makes the world go round. money is just a tool for us to live in this world, and for me we can't gain happiness if we have no money because how can we buy our needs if we have no money? how can you help somebody if you don't have money? how can you help if somebody of your family needs money to pay the bills in the hospital if he/she have ill health?

(26 Sep '11, 13:57) Joemer

money is created by men is it not? how did people help each other before money was created? money does not solve problems men do. but i agree with you that to live in this world and in this system you need some money. until people become less greedy and share and give to the poor. so a balence is achive.

(27 Sep '11, 00:01) white tiger

give to Cesar what belongs to Cesar and to God what belongs to God.

(27 Sep '11, 00:03) white tiger
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Here is a link which explains this verse in one way..It's from an old site called "Millionaires for Jesus". I could not explain this verse any better than the interpretation there...basically, it explains that "needle" referred to an opening in the defensive walls of a it, and it will help.

Now, Wade tells me that in the Aramaic Bible, the direct translation really is "Rope through the eye of a needle" and that the verse has been mistranslated all over the place.

So what is a rich guy supposed to do? I think the key lies in the phrase, "The Kingdom of Heaven" at the end of that verse from Matthew to which you are (indirectly) referring. The "Kingdom of Heaven", at least from what I have learned in school, is a state of being one with God, and loving God with all your heart. It really is hard to forget all about the care of money- whether you have it, don't have it, or worse, have a lot of bills. I think that this is what Jesus means. We are supposed to love God so much, and Jesus, too, (if you are not Christian, please forgive me) that He is totally in control of your life and mind. You basically live on the Trust in God, and NOT trust in money.

Wade and I know about this struggle personally, as we have a lot of bills, and it is very hard not to obsess about fact, that obsession is what I think Jesus is referring to in the first place. In other words, if your debts or money are more on your mind than God, you are not living in "The Kingdom of Heaven".

I hope all this helps you understand!

Blessings, Jai


answered 27 Sep '11, 14:58

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edited 27 Sep '11, 17:33

if it is a camel or a rope both do not go through the eye of a needle. and yes i know about this argument.

(28 Sep '11, 18:31) white tiger

response to acquiring wealth,
for some reason my intrepretation of the 'Jesus' is that of selflessness,
the willingingness to serve and help the inflicted
in comitting to a way
renewed in faith


answered 28 Sep '11, 00:19

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Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

(28 Sep '11, 18:35) white tiger

When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth.Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

(28 Sep '11, 18:39) white tiger

white tiger, scripture has many interpretations for the exoteric, however the cipher shares the esoterism to those with the understanding

(28 Sep '11, 23:08) fred

well fred how many question are the same even when they differ? is it not also fun that the answer fit many of those question even if it is not the same question?

(01 Oct '11, 23:16) white tiger

white tiger, it is always fun to gain new knowledge and understanding of the truth, though the the way may be frustating. too much of what is quoted as 'real' by scripture is still at a novice level of consciousness and off the intended mark

(02 Oct '11, 15:53) fred
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