During my meditating sessions, I usually create (with my mind) the things that I want in my life and visualize myself and my family, exactly how I would like to see us. But I notice that while I am sitting perfectly still during the meditation, I tend to move my eye balls (with my eyes closed). I do this becuase I am creating...almost drawing with my eyes. And I imagine myself in my visualization...walking around and observing my surroundings...which causes my eyeballs to move accordingly.
Is it ok to move my eyeballs during meditation - when I am visualizing my desires?
asked 16 Nov '11, 17:33
Barry Allen ♦♦
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“Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.” ~ Bruce Lee
No person whatsoever, irrelevant of their abilities or experience, can tell you what is right for you. I encourage you to change the way you ask these questions in your mind, because how you ask determines how you process the information you are given. Rather than asking "Is it OK to...", ask "Do you personally do...? Why or why not? What are your thoughts on this method...?" Take people's advice as what it is, sharing the best understanding one has available at the time.
We are all students, and nobody has all the answers. There is no right or wrong, only different. It is up to you to decide what works for you, and that is what you must continue to use until you find a new method that works better for you.
To actually address the question: Stop worrying so much about what you're doing while meditating. Calming yourself doesn't only mean calming your body, but also calming your mind; as they are both a part of the same entity.
When it is time to act, focus only on completing the action to the best of your ability at the time. Afterwards, analyze what you have done and how you did it. What do you think you did well? Poorly? Always ask yourself what you can to do improve your performance. You may not always be able to answer that last question, but there is always a better way to do things, even things we have done routinely since our childhood. This is why it is of the utmost importance to never fall into routine, always look for new ways to do the same things you've done for eternity.
If you find that actively looking around in your dreams helps you 'feel', then by all means you should do it. I caution you however, by the sound of what you're saying it seems like you might be at risk of using too much imagination and not 'believing' enough so to speak. Your imagination starts with an idea. Then you add perception, 'feeling' senses that you would were you in that situation. Finally you add belief: believing that what you are feeling is real, attainable, and already yours.
The first steps are what decide what it is you want to make happen, and the more clear you are with your desires the more specifically they can be fulfilled. This is the lesson taught by proverbs like "Be careful what you wish for", and stories of genies granting wishes literally instead of the manner the wisher intended. Always be absolutely clear and concise with your desires.
That last step is what determines the extent of your success. It is the 'driving force' or the 'will' that makes what you want to happen, happen. It is very difficult for younger students to truly believe in what they are creating in their mind while their consciousness is still active or awake, because your active mind will often attempt to enforce the laws and restrictions you have allowed to be placed on yourself. This is why you are encouraged to take yourself as deep into meditation as possible before attempting to change anything. As you become more experienced you will find that you can actively change the universe around you even while you are fully conscious, but it requires an impressive amount of training and discipline.
My apologies for such a verbose answer, but your question is not a simple one. Another contributor suggested Googling "Tibetan eye roll". This is an excellent suggestion, but as with the answers you receive from contributors here, always come to your own conclusions based on what fits you. No two people are alike... that is the beauty of life. There are an infinite number of ways to do the same task, and no matter how many ways you try you'll still never find the 'perfect' answer, because there isn't one.
Good luck on your journey, you're heading in the right direction. Continue moving forward and you will always find the answers you seek.
answered 19 Nov '11, 22:46
Leo much agreed depending on how a question is asked really can change my answers. I just realized with my answer it was being taken wrong compared to how I originally meant it, but it was in line with how the question was asked. Also you posted a very good answer entirely.
(20 Nov '11, 03:33) Wade Casaldi
Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate them greatly.
(20 Nov '11, 03:50) Leo
You are very welcomed, and Welcome to Inward Quest Leo! I hope you like it here as much as I have.
(20 Nov '11, 04:54) Wade Casaldi
I assure you, I already feel like I have finally found someplace I can call home. Just somewhere I can say the BEGINNING of my thoughts and beliefs is more than I could have ever hoped to have found.
(20 Nov '11, 09:14) Leo
Thanks for the answers. Leo, you are absolutely correct. When I originally posted the question, a part of me felt that only I would be able to decide if whether or not I was doing something incorrectly. I guess I really should've requoted my question and just asked for the different ways people meditated and/or visualized. Nonetheless, thank u so much for your input...and it was NOT to verbose...it was VERY insightful.
(24 Nov '11, 05:03) Mags 4
I'm very glad that you found it helpful. =)
I caution you because of personal experiences I have had lately with mentors of mine. Never let ANYONE tell you that their way is the best or or only way, no matter how much respect, faith, or trust you put in them.
Trust yourself.. If you believe in yourself then that is all that matters.
(24 Nov '11, 06:48) Leo
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yes, meditation is as personal and as difrent for us all as our personalitys and trusth are, as long as your beleif that doing it wont effedct it, you will be fine
love n light
answered 17 Nov '11, 18:56
TReb Bor yit-NE
Google "Tibetian eye roll"
answered 19 Nov '11, 10:11
Everything depends on the type of visualizer you are. Most see things like they are sitting in a movie theater as if it is on a big screen in front of them. To move your eyes would be to look away and not see what is going on in front of you then.
However there are those that when they visualize it is like they are in the center and everything is around them. These are rarer visualizers that can look around with their eyes closed like to the sides and behind them, they see a whole world around them that is only in their minds. I am one of these types myself. When I heal I imagine the light and fire of the Holy Spirit flowing from my hands much like if they were blowtorches with Holy Spirit flames bursting out in a constant flow. If it is something that needs cooling, I imagine powerful jets of water from the Holy Spirit pouring out and cleaning and cooling. I see these like they are there, and not like happening on some screen in front of me.
Now you need to think when you visualize, is it like on a screen in front of you? Is it like you are right there in the middle of it? This will tell you if you should move your eyes or keep them fixed. Above all relax! Procedure if it takes too much effort takes away from what you are trying to do. In other words if I am worrying about if I am doing it right while I am doing it, then I am doing it wrong because I am disturbing it from being done at all.
Relax and let be.
answered 16 Nov '11, 21:29
i agree with everything you said except it is only in your mind. when i fell the room around me and i can almost see it. it is more then in the mind.has for moving the away you will shift your awareness somewhere else so i do agree that when meditating it is not the right thing to do.
(18 Nov '11, 05:22) white tiger
What I mean is depending on the type of visualizer he is it could be wrong but also it could be right. It all depends on if it is distracting or engrossing.
(20 Nov '11, 03:27) Wade Casaldi
the fact that you ask the question is because you know it all ready you lose focus and youre awareness shift somewhere else. so if you are just doing meditation to relax or contemplate no problem. if you do deep meditation try to focus on a point in front of you. experience and enjoy.
answered 18 Nov '11, 05:26
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Thnk u all for ur comments. I guess I may b trying too hard to visualize certain things. When I meditate, I normally start with a simple relaxation & once I'm completely relaxed, thats when I start to create things with my mind.I visualize myself living in my ideal house. But I don't see these things as if I'm in a theatre. Instead, I'm actually in the vision. I walk around the house and observe the walls, the furniture, my family watching TV...I look up at the ceiling, look at the kitchen cabinets, etc. And this is where I move my eyes...as I look around at the details of the house.