It seems that the universe is infinite and eternal. But, did it always exist? It is hard to believe that there was no starting point.

It seems to me that it is one of those concepts that is hard to grasp from our conscious awareness of our time and space dimensional reality.

What are your thoughts?

asked 29 Nov '09, 21:50

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Pink Diamond

I honestly don't have a clue. It's a bit like asking " does eternity exist? ". Who really knows for sure?


answered 29 Nov '09, 22:53

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Yes the Earth has an orgin, an begining, but only God knows when it was for the bible tells the story or the orgin of human beings and the Earth. It says when he moved the waters so that land could be seen he called the land Earth and the waters, called sea, and their were many beings in the waters.

So, I don't know how old the Earth is now God had invented time for he placed the moon, sun, stars and the sky, which divides the waters from up and below, which produces time in this physical world.

I don't believe in evolution or the big bang theory because that is taking away from the idea that God created the earth and us humans and all things. But all humans are entitle to their own beliefs but as for me I believe in the one and only true God that I am that I am and Jesus Christ the son of God which is our Savior who died on the cross for all of man kind sins.

There maybe an enlighten human who do know but he/she would have to have gotten the answer from God or maybe one of His Holy angels for God is the only one who really know all the other would just be an guess. God created the Holy Angels.


answered 29 Nov '09, 23:25

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How do you know that evolution and the big bang aren't the way God intended for the universe to develop?

(29 Nov '09, 23:30) Vesuvius

Because this is my belief I am talking about and I don't believe in the Big Bang theory or evolution because as I said it takes the credit away from saying God create and God did create it. People would rather believe anything else did it but God I don't know why. God loves us humans and he created us. God created the Universe, The Earth, the Animals, Insects, Life in the Seas, The Trees, Plants, Grass, etc.Than he stood back and allow it to develope multiple and grow and he provided the nurishmment for all creatures. He allow it to mist up from the ground to water everything no rain.Vesuvius

(30 Nov '09, 01:11) flowingwater

when will you find harmony and know that all truth exist in the absolute truth? i know why don't you? and yes God know.

(03 Nov '11, 20:35) white tiger
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Everything seems to be infinite & finite. To the bacteria on a pebble the pebble is infinite & to the person holding that same pebble it is finite.

Before the discovery of other nations the fishermen went out to fish in an infinite ocean.

Until the earth was discovered to be round it was flat & I'm sure it would have been considered infinite by some & that you could fall off the edge by others.

The furthest we can travel is to the moon right now (or so it is believed). So to us the space out there is infinite. But is it finite?

There is a wonderful small book (mostly pictures but very deep in concept) titled Stalking the Wild Pendulum, by Itzhak Bentov.

I highly recommend it. All of you guys & gals will relate to it very well.

If you read this book your limits of imagination concerning the universe out there might change a little.


answered 30 Nov '09, 03:19

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The Traveller

duality 2 face of a same coin. why not see the 2 face for what they are and find the middle part and see it as a whole?

(03 Nov '11, 20:41) white tiger

The Big Bang theory says that our universe is approximately 13.7 billion years old, and is supported by a vast swath of scientific evidence and observation.

The term Big Bang generally refers to the idea that our Universe began from a primordial hot and dense initial condition (essentially a singularity that exploded), and has expanded outward ever since.


answered 29 Nov '09, 22:12

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edited 30 Nov '09, 02:27

But that is not the universe that is the matter in the universe, the universe is the all inclusive thus why it is called universe so all matter yes but also all void as well. If all including all void started as a tinny particle then we have to speculate what was this tinny particle in couldn't be the void because that was in the particle. That is why I believe it always was it is the ultimate nothingness that contains everything.

(30 Nov '09, 09:22) Wade Casaldi

Yes obiously, even though we dont see it, everything works in cycles, either is the way mass changes or how life works. So does the universe, beacause even if they tell us that the universe had a time were it didn´t exist and it came out of nowhere, when the universe ends, it would come back to the begining, leading it again to reapear out of nowhere.

Another thing that has me intrigated, is that if we belong to a cycle where everything is infinite, and what makes our existance, could it reapear again in the cicle? I mean if we exist, it logical we exist, so if our existance came out of nowhere, when we die, we would be getting back where we started, and as the universe recycles and things go back,whatever makes us, would be back again. Maybe not exactly the same, but we would be back. So it would give us chances to expierence all what is possible over and over again without getting tired or bored.Like if it was a game, or sort of. We appear, we live, we dissapear and come back again in a never ending story.


answered 03 Nov '11, 04:47

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edited 03 Nov '11, 08:06

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until you win the game? experience and enjoy.

(03 Nov '11, 20:43) white tiger

Well... there wouldn´t be a way of wining, maybe by living an awesome life or achieving what you want. I used the game comparison cause at the end, they both share the same final goal, to live, to experience and enjoy, like you say.

(04 Nov '11, 04:16) Zaizer

from what i have studied the universe fluctuates between
active and passive existence,
so the potential for us to quantify it depends
on our capacity of perception


answered 03 Nov '11, 10:08

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why not become a children of light and go see it has a whole? experience and enjoy.

(03 Nov '11, 20:45) white tiger

white tiger, it does not happen over night but the pace is excellerating. thank you

(04 Nov '11, 00:12) fred

Perhaps No one can know for sure, we can only postulate. Because of the nature of the laws here on earth, and our physical bodies; our thinking is also limited. I think part of the fun is stretching the limits of our physical bodies and our mind...reaching ever so close to an infinite goal of expansion...and never reaching it :)

But to address your question Pink Diamond... I do think the Universe was always here. I agree with Zaizer about recycling. We see this in nature all about us; a constant, effortless recycling of events, resources, energy, lives ...everything. As above, so it is below. As below, so it is above. We see stars and whole galaxies recycled in the heavens. To me it seems rather logical that this has been going on forever (on infinite levels). Will it continue? That is another question! lol But if we believe and know that all things are possible... If we concede the fact that the Universe is All potential (all things are possible) then we instantly know that this is possible as well. If we can conceive of the possibility of the Universe always existing...then it does. ss


answered 03 Nov '11, 12:18

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is your physical body the best vehicule to go see the universe? experience and enjoy.

(03 Nov '11, 20:48) white tiger

well pink diamond. where you always you? even before birth took place? when you are a baby? when you are a child? when you are adult? when you are old? when you cross over? when you dream? God is what created the universe. when he became aware it was what scientist call the big bang. the universe exist for a long time. when you dream and wake up the next day does your body still exist? if God choose to end the universe and start it back up tomorrow will it change something for you? experience and enjoy.


answered 03 Nov '11, 20:30

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